Laughs in USS Liberty.
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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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I figured some would be happy to get rid of a boat full of feds.
I deleted it because it could easily be misconstrued that I am against Israel, which is not true. What I am against is the US being used as a pawn, especially the US taxpayer which is struggling, for agendas that not only increase the dangers to our military unnecessarily, but also serve to further destabilize areas that we should not be involved with. This goes for both Ukraine and Israel's escalation that has gone way beyond the events of October 7th.
Regarding the quotes, there have been several accounts on both sides that they are valid and invalid. However, I can point to many instances where those quotes have been born out in practice. There was this ship one time, the Liberty. There is also AIPAC, which is there to influence our elections so that politicians are always pro-Israel. If Israel was always above board and a good ally, why would that be needed?
Worldwide, not just those two countries, there is a difference between the citizenry and the leadership that is all too common. The immigration in Europe is a prime example. Frequently leadership has the desire to exploit. This isn't right. That's my rub. Unfortunately, I don't see that going away any time soon since we are fallen humans.
So yes, I deleted them because upon further reflection they add nothing to conversation and only create further tit for tat.
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Especially in the aftermath of that early warning radar that Ukraine destroyed a while back. Haven’t heard if Russia fixed it yet.
If true this could shake things up a bit.
www.dailymail.co.uk
North Korea could send 100,000 fighters to help Russia's invasion
North Korea may send as many as 100,000 troops to support Russia's invasion of Ukraine if Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un strengthen ties between their nations.
along with elvis ,the grassy knoll ,ufo's and 9/11 you sure have a full plate
And you have an empty head.
Cubans there too.If true this could shake things up a bit.
North Korea could send 100,000 fighters to help Russia's invasion
North Korea may send as many as 100,000 troops to support Russia's invasion of Ukraine if Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un strengthen ties between their nations.
1/4 MOA all day...
I’m also hearing rumors that CHICOM “private security” firms are there as well.
Shit could get interesting soon.
How about that Baltic Finnish undersea data cable that was reportedly disrupted recently?
Brits warned of nuclear war 'before Christmas'
A former spokesperson for Russian President Vladimir Putin said today Western allies had taken a 'big jump' towards nuclear conflict by giving Ukraine such an approval.
Buried in all the fear mongering is this small comment:
"In fact, the Western ballistic missiles, which all include US components and rely on US satellites, have a range of up to 200 miles. So they do not pose a threat to Russian cities. Security sources have suggested Ukraine will likely use the missile to target Russian airstrips, drone production facilities and command and control centres. Earlier today, former UK Defence Secretary Sir Ben Wallace said the missiles should be used within the boundaries of international law – against military rather than civilian targets."
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Didn't hear about the cable. IDK if Russia should mess with the Finns, that has never worked out well in the recent past.
You're automatically assuming RU is responsible for the cable cut?
Lots of people were were pointed toward RU for the Nordstream demo as well.
There are BIG TIME shit stirrers that are fucking with entire countries like chess pieces to instigate the reactions they want. I'm just sayin.
And........soros (dickhead senior is in DC and) just gave a thumbs up to the use of missiles.
Warfare was a lot different and way less asymmetric back then. But who knows
true. but,finland is not what it was in 1939. in fact karelia was taken by stalin after ww2 and filled up with russians. in fact karelia produced a lot of the best finn troops. finland,like the rest of scandanavia has gone woke/wimp since then. have all been overrun by savages like the rest of europe.
Not necessarily but I see how it comes off that way. I know jackshit about the disruption, him mentioning it is the first I heard about it. I have some extend family with Finnish roots, so that comment comes more from that and their history of conflict.
Nord is something completely different. Destroying that pipeline has been a goal of the collective west for years. No way I believe RU was responsible.
Or the line just broke who knows. Undersea's cables some times break. Again I have no clue what happened.
Totally tracking and agree.
Same here basically.
I wasn't even trying to make a point or judgement on you but rather taking the opportunity to make an oblique point that WE can't trust anything we hear and only 10% of what we see!
Did you see some of the actions the Russian Navy conducted PRIOR to this shitshow starting? I THINK S-2 Underground reported on them quite a bit.
Caspian Report is good shit BTW.
I would suggest for some here to (re)read the statement from Putin on 12th of September about "allowing Ukrops to use western long range weapons" i am aware that some have trouble translating meaning from words but the underlying fact is Ukrops CANNOT use western long range weapons. This is in fact a direct engagement in a shooting war devoid of any pretense (at least until now we could all pretend that people manning those systems were either magically trained Ukrops or mercs or "i take off uniform and i'm no longer NATO soldier") that people on the ground are NATO soldiers representing (at least) political will of NATO countries attacking Russia. In short its war without pretense (who gives a rats ass about MSM and political smokescreen for domestic consumption to keep fat populace compliant).
Response might be subtle but it will come for sure. I would bet that Russian preempted this "decision" by supplying appropriate hardware to various institutions world wide and once given green light funny things might happen to western assets. But i would not discount a major escalation remember dec'21 as Putin was "yapping" and issuing "who gives a fuck what kind of ultimatums" and then in 22 shit hit the fan... Combine this with political landscape (like banning AfD - which is a small but nonetheless step in right direction for Germany) in Europe and you get dark forces going "all in" on all fronts and there is but a whimper from the docile populace of fat pigs that we are.
Response might be subtle but it will come for sure. I would bet that Russian preempted this "decision" by supplying appropriate hardware to various institutions world wide and once given green light funny things might happen to western assets. But i would not discount a major escalation remember dec'21 as Putin was "yapping" and issuing "who gives a fuck what kind of ultimatums" and then in 22 shit hit the fan... Combine this with political landscape (like banning AfD - which is a small but nonetheless step in right direction for Germany) in Europe and you get dark forces going "all in" on all fronts and there is but a whimper from the docile populace of fat pigs that we are.
I'm reading that now.sweden is concerned...
Sweden tells citizens to prepare for WAR: Pamphlets sent to millions
It comes as neighbouring Finland launched a new preparedness website and after Norwegians recently received booklets instructing them on how to manage on their own for a week in the event of war.
This one is more better-er though. The Swiss were more serious-er about civil defense:
Great book btw. Unfortunately, this doctrine / mindset is slowly vanishing in Switzerland. We are no longer as independent as we were back then, in particular on the ammunition production side. Still, there is plenty of small arms to harass a potential invader.
Hi eprom !
Yes, unfortunately, I have seen that as well. When a "Murican" can see it, it has become quite pronounced.
Don't get me wrong though, Switzerland is still a wonderful country !
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They false flag attacked the USS Liberty and killed your people to drag you into war with them against Egypt.
Also the bombing of the King David hotel, another false flag, that time against the British.
Don't need enemies when you have "allies" like that, and don't forget when they sold your nuclear tech to the Soviets or recently your military secrets to China.
Opposes immigration. Right wing.
Most votes in Germany?
Why is banning them the right move?
Ukraine Launches First ATACMS Strike On Russia, Sending Markets Reeling Amid WW3 Fears | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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That did not take long.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...portedly-carries-first-strike-inside-russian/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...portedly-carries-first-strike-inside-russian/
There is possibly that Ukraine can do its own deep targeting at a limited scale provided they have a LRRS team or something similar in place.
Why is banning AfD a step in the right direction?
He’ll check with his bosses at the EU & WEF and get right back with you.
I'm going to guess they are selling their rise as a prelude to the 4th reich.
It would seem they are hyper sensitive about putting your own country ahead of the needs of the third world.
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No...
US Relations with Egypt had been souring. Interesting the same day the liberty was attacked, Egypt severed diplomatic ties with the US. About two years prior we began selling Israel weapons. A-4's in 1965, US position at the time was a bit ambiguous. We were trying to play both sides. This pissed the Egyptians off and Israel did not fully trust us.
Up until that day we had been helping Egypt and sending aid attempting to keep Soviet influence out, we failed and the Soviets moved into Egypt.
Israel hit that ship to make a point... which side are you on, as part of the UN resoluton 242 was trying to tell Israel to give back the land in the Sini they just fought for.
One thing many Israelis hate more than Nazi's are Russians. Who have been supplying the weapons that have been bombarding their country for over a half century.
After they Aced' Kennedy for not expunging the Soviets from Cuba(pulling bay of pigs support), Johnson went ham around the globe fighting the commies.
That was done earlier this year. Were there new revisions made?let's all hope it doesn't get that far....
the uke is one errant missile launch away from a 10 KT crater because a senile old man couldn't keep quiet for 2 months and congress would not step up .
Obama-Biden-Clinton nuclear giveaway to Russia a decade ago comes back to bite America
Vladimir Putin has cut off exports of Russian uranium to the United States, exploiting a dangerous dependence cemented by Obama-era deals.
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So, Putin keeps moving his assets beyond current artificial range limitations, then uses those assets to mostly attack civilian infrastructure. In particular, it seems he’s been going after power plants across the country in advance of the winter. That feels more like an escalation and a positioning for what he knows will be a push to cease hostilities. Then Putin acts surprised and flashes the nuclear card when the predictable happens. He’s either insidious or stupid, you choose.
Oh, and before I get called a Uke plant or something, f both these kleptocracies. They should both agree to hold their lines and knock it off until our administration changes. And if the Eurotrash doesn’t like that, they can go it alone.
Oh, and before I get called a Uke plant or something, f both these kleptocracies. They should both agree to hold their lines and knock it off until our administration changes. And if the Eurotrash doesn’t like that, they can go it alone.
Putin Updates Russia's Nuclear Doctrine Mandates Following US Long-Range Missile Strikes from Ukraine Inside Their Borders on Tuesday | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
As reported earlier by Paul Serran – The escalation of the war in Ukraine has reached peak level on Tuesday, as Ukraine is reported to have launched western missiles at a target inside Russia, a move that can lead to a potential nuclear retaliation by Moscow.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
– aggression against Russia and its allies by a non-nuclear country with the support of a nuclear state will be considered a joint attack;
– Russia may use nuclear weapons in the event of a critical threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of itself and Belarus;
– the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons include the launch of ballistic missiles against the Russian Federation (ATACMS are exactly such missiles – Ed.)
Curious... are there military only power infrastructure they could target instead?
I mean.... It's not like they are dropping a nuke on a large city like Hiroshima or something crazy like that to try to end a war.
Russia and Ukraine had an semi offical agreement that limited strikes on civilian infrastructure, the ukraines broke it by targeting oil infulstructure in Russia with drones.
Much like the grain agreement that Ukraine also broke and maybe you should also think about just how much of fuck eyeryone else gives about targeting civilian infrastructure.
There are quite a few military bases that russia could use a tactical nuclear weapon on in the uke , I am sure they have a prepared target package ready to go . I also would bet both sides war gamed this out calculating the risk of each move / escalation ....its one of them getting the math wrong is what can make this go really south . None of us here have access to the intel they are acting on so we are just knee jerking on assumptions not facts but its the old coot in the whitehouse that scares me .....and that is a fact . why he cant just stay focused on cleaning out his desk for the next 60 days ...............
I don't think the Russians believe that the Trump Admin will bring a cession to hostilities by folding to their wants. Potentially the opposite and threatening the us of the actual US military to end this. IE, end it or I let the dogs loose.
Or at least that is how I see it. But thats just my opinion.
And........soros (dickhead senior is in DC and) just gave a thumbs up to the use of missiles.
I think his son is actually in charge now, and Alexander Soros posted on X yesterday how much he thinks that this new change from Biden in policy will help Ukraine (further the globalist agenda).
Even if Putin limits tactical nukes to Ukraine, once the "breadbasket of Europe" that's going to cause a whole new food insecurities longterm compounded by what the globalists are doing to the farmers in the Netherlands and the rest of Europe. At least it kind of screws Black rocks future; I still feel bad for the Ukrainian people who've lost two generations of men. Add Gates and China owning upwards of 40% of our farmlands? Trump needs to get that back in the hands of legit US farmers, not those hell-bent on killing us.
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I think the NWO folks are getting a bit desperate.
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