I already have one and like it. I was just wondering if there was an option out there to take the FOV governor off it and use it as it was designed and as the listed specs say.
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I already have one and like it. I was just wondering if there was an option out there to take the FOV governor off it and use it as it was designed and as the listed specs say.
No, you were whining about your pet peeve, over and over again! In any case, Enjoy the one you have, do with it what you will. I will do the same with mine and I don't think ZCO has lied about what they were selling here in the USA.
I wasn’t “whining” about shit, merely asking a question, which some might think is a perfectly valid question, since I can’t think of too many $4K+ items we buy where we’re supposed to be happy with receiving less than what’s advertised.
ZCO should update their specs on their website to reflect what North American buyers actually get… then there’d be nothing to “whine” about.
And FWIW, I don’t understand guys who buy products and then get emotionally attached to the brands to the point where they feel like they need to take up for them. I like the scope, yeah, but that doesn’t automatically make me a brand ambassador/defender or blind to shortcomings and/or idiosyncrasies when they come to light.
This has been discussed a few times on here, and my understanding is that FoV specs are likely for non-US version, which have greater FoV than US versions. This is very likely due to Swaro's current BS patent that nobody has challenged in the US.
I bought all my ZCOs years ago, and I didn't know that US version were restricted. Even if I knew, I would have bought at that time since the Patent was still many years away from sunsetting. That said, it is annoying that the US scopes are throttled (presumably). Also, from a functional standpoint, US version FoV is not a huge issue IME - it's not like you are looking through a paper towel roll or anything.
Understand, just annoyed at guy constantly whining. I love mine, they perform better than nothing else in my eye ( TT may be good, but they don’t have a reticle I want to use). Not sure I even cared about specs as they do what I want them to do. Anyway, Merry Christmas to all!
ZCO has its fan boys. NF, Impact, and TBAC etc. do too. Ah well.
@koshkin has previously opined upon ZCO fudging its FOV specs. Not sure if that was for the EU models or just for the US one. He also said ZCO does not like him because of it.
IIRC, he also said that removing a FOV limiter wouldn’t be cost effective.
I trust he will pop in to correct me if I am wrong.
@koshkin has previously opined upon ZCO fudging its FOV specs. Not sure if that was for the EU models or just for the US one. He also said ZCO does not like him because of it.
IIRC, he also said that removing a FOV limiter wouldn’t be cost effective.
I trust he will pop in to correct me if I am wrong.
I’m gonna give you a powerful tip if you’re getting annoyed on your phone. Put it down. You getting annoyed means the device owned you that day. Look at your emotions, be a man that your father would be proud of.
Yes, you can perform it as an aftermarket action without any patent implications, provided you can successfully disassemble the scope, reassemble it, and nitrogen purge it, however, they cannot. Presumably, doing this would void your warranty.
Christ that Paramount Tactical interviewer dude is like twice the size of the ZCO fella. Jeez.
FOV issues and patents
I realize this has been discussed in some detail but this isn’t necessarily about the absurd, imo, patent by a certain company. This is about other companies adhering to it but not giving a disclaimer to potential buyers. So say I buy a new Schmidt, a zeiss v8, a tt, or some other 3-5k optic...
www.snipershide.com
Will NF design a wide angle lens?
I keep wondering why tangent theta, Nightforce and zco are falling behind in the FOV department and no advertising or teasing that they have something in the works... I'd be super interested in that zco 8-40 if it could have the super large fov like kahles, S&B or March. also I wonder how much...
www.snipershide.com
Also discussed some in the New Kahles k328i thread. October ish time frame. Possible older.
Swaro has a patent on FoV (Kahles is part of swaro, hence the K328i). It was challenged in Europe (I think by Leica?), and Leica(?) won. Nobody has challenged the patent in US.
Seems like at least some companies getting their scopes from Japan are taking the honey badger approach (March, I think G3 razor, etc). Other companies offer wide FoV outside US and restricted FoV within the US (ZCO, the new 6-36 S&B, etc).
Patent expires soon, and lots of people have hopes that many existing scopes will simply pull out a limiter and offer bigger FoV. That may or may not be the case.
Allegedly!
But I am sure ZCO, Schmidt&Bender, March and all others will gladly share their patents with everyone to create a fair and safe market enviroment.
Wow, looky here...
Zero Compromise Optics ZC210 - Mile High Shooting
Mile High Shooting Accessories is excited to announce that we are now offering ZCO's new 2-10x30 riflescopes in both black and FDE!
www.milehighshooting.com
Zero Compromise represented well on this 1,000 KYL competition on Erik Cortina's channel. One guy shooting a ZC840 and another shooting a ZC527 are the only ones able to hit the 2" square target at 1,000 yards Plus there was a ton of edge hits that were not called, you can tell by the trace.
Plus there was a ton of edge hits that were not called, you can tell by the trace.
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Zero Compromise represented well on this 1,000 KYL competition on Erik Cortina's channel. One guy shooting a ZC840 and another shooting a ZC527 are the only ones able to hit the 2" square target at 1,000 yards
2" at 1000, that is incredible!
Looks like the 2-10 is set to become reality soon. I expect this to be one amazing MPVO, big question is, is it worth the squeeze?Wow, looky here...
Zero Compromise Optics ZC210 - Mile High Shooting
Mile High Shooting Accessories is excited to announce that we are now offering ZCO's new 2-10x30 riflescopes in both black and FDE!
As predicted, and without needing to give away a ton of optics to do so.
I had hoped some more options would have dropped from other manufacturers but so far... silence. That makes me feel the most exciting new release at SHOT this year is the ZCO 2-10x30. Anyone who gets "hands on" experience with this scope at SHOT please share your initial comments, I've been considering being an early adopter with this scope to put it through my review process.
Granted SHOT coverage has sucked ass in general in thr 2020s,
I haven’t seen anything on ZCO. It appears it was a slow year for traditional optics
Their booth looked busy from what I've seen in a video, @Lowlight was there with a dozen or so people around him. After being at Shot last year and how hectic it is, unless your a media based company with a plan. It's tough to get decent footage and release it quickly.
But yes the 2-10x30 is on display
Their booth looked busy from what I've seen in a video, @Lowlight was there with a dozen or so people around him. After being at Shot last year and how hectic it is, unless your a media based company with a plan. It's tough to get decent footage and release it quickly.
But yes the 2-10x30 is on display
Luckily every "influencer" schmuck with a Youtube/Tiktok channel is a "media company"...and everybody's covering the same 12 things as everyone else. Gotta hit that Algo... "Smash that like and subscribe".
Curious if Badger is going to have a regular C1 36mm by the time the 2-10 finally launches. Only thing I'm seeing from them is that riser thingy.
The new single turn turret with 12 mrad up and 2 mrad under zero sounds really nice!Their booth looked busy from what I've seen in a video, @Lowlight was there with a dozen or so people around him. After being at Shot last year and how hectic it is, unless your a media based company with a plan. It's tough to get decent footage and release it quickly.
But yes the 2-10x30 is on display
It really is a media nightmare at Shot, and Wednesday the internet there just died even with a WiFi booster
Then the shear number of people doing it, it gets old fast. The number of sound proof booths at the big displays has increased 4x
Really the dungeon is the best place to find the interesting stuff. But I agree the experience media wise sucks, it’s just too busy
Zco sells its self, but I plan to work with Jeff to bring more Zco content to the Hide.
Then the shear number of people doing it, it gets old fast. The number of sound proof booths at the big displays has increased 4x
Really the dungeon is the best place to find the interesting stuff. But I agree the experience media wise sucks, it’s just too busy
Zco sells its self, but I plan to work with Jeff to bring more Zco content to the Hide.
It really is a media nightmare at Shot, and Wednesday the internet there just died even with a WiFi booster
Then the shear number of people doing it, it gets old fast. The number of sound proof booths at the big displays has increased 4x
Really the dungeon is the best place to find the interesting stuff. But I agree the experience media wise sucks, it’s just too busy
Zco sells its self, but I plan to work with Jeff to bring more Zco content to the Hide.
Then the shear number of people doing it, it gets old fast. The number of sound proof booths at the big displays has increased 4x
Really the dungeon is the best place to find the interesting stuff. But I agree the experience media wise sucks, it’s just too busy
Zco sells its self, but I plan to work with Jeff to bring more Zco content to the Hide.
I guess the first question is did you play with the 2-10 and what is your opinion. Other question are likely covered by an NDA
Since I didn’t go to SHOT Show this year 2025, I think it’s safe for me to post pictures of the 2-10x30 prototype from Shot Show 2024. Here’s one picture from last year before they tweaked it to the production model now displayed.
No I played with the 2-10x a couple of time and I try to avoid NDAs, why I can talk about Aliens.
I am putting it on my 6.5PRC hunter but will most likely use a GDI and swap it around seasonally
I’m a fan of the mag range and it’s really a great optic
I am putting it on my 6.5PRC hunter but will most likely use a GDI and swap it around seasonally
I’m a fan of the mag range and it’s really a great optic
Cool, I also have a GDI waiting for one l, it will go on a 300 blk.
Congratulations again to ZCO!!!
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I got my fde 4-20 after months of waiting and now need an fde scope mount. Thinking of badger c1 max; any other takes?
None of the anodized mounts will match the cerakote on the ZCO, may not matter, but if you want the closest match buy the mount you like the most and have someone Cerakote the mount to match. Contact CS tactical as they are pros at Cerakoting scopes I’m sure they’d be happy to do a mount for you too.
You can get FDE ZCO mounts that match the ZCO FDE scope.
ZCO Block Scope Mount
The ZCO block mount with 0Mil / 6Mil incline has been specially developed for professional mounting of ZCO riflescopes and is characterized by high precision and strength.
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