Is lubing the neck really required?
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I take any and every advantage or edge I can get within reason to improve my reloads and results on target.
I am admittedly not a competition shooter but a very competitive person by nature of my OCD tendencies
.If I feel like a process as simple as an expander mandrel or turning arbor improves the consistency of my reloaded rifle rounds its worth the miniscule difference in my time spent adding the extra step.
I have loaded some stupid accurate rifle ammo over the years shot in sporter hunting rifles with minimal prep with mediocre dies and other less than premium equipment but once those are compared to well prepped brass and components loaded to a more scrutinized process past 600 yards at a minimum the argument kind of falls apart.
I take any and every advantage or edge I can get within reason to improve my reloads and results on target.
I am admittedly not a competition shooter but a very competitive person by nature of my OCD tendencies
If I feel like a process as simple as an expander mandrel or turning arbor improves the consistency of my reloaded rifle rounds its worth the miniscule difference in my time spent adding the extra step.
I have loaded some stupid accurate rifle ammo over the years shot in sporter hunting rifles with minimal prep with mediocre dies and other less than premium equipment but once those are compared to well prepped brass and components loaded to a more scrutinized process past 600 yards at a minimum the argument kind of falls apart.
They have just as much chance - especially neck turning - to harm your reloads more than help.
If you’re doing all that at a high level and seeing 1-4 sd that’s great! If you’re doing all that for 10sd - way more harm than good.
Resurrecting with additional data…
I had changed brakes on this rifle and finally went to rezero it again…same left over ammo mentioned above from when I stopped shooting comps at the end of 2020
fired 2 rounds, adjusted, next 8 punched out the 1/2” dot
it was cooler for south tx around 60°
The old trued velocity I had in kestrel was 2740 fps
Still where it should be…
Some people have tried making their own. I'm not sure what proportions they were using, and it won't have the resin that helps it stick, but it might be worth trying.
Colloidal graphite in propanol (isopropyl alcohol and proponal are isomers...identical composition but slightly different structure)....no idea why the EU thinks this is dangerous.
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It isn't just the EU, I paid $40 for shipping on a pint of neolube here in the states.
Who'd ya buy it from, mate? Now, I'm talking 2 oz bottles and not a pint (which I'm not sure I'd use in my remaining lifetime) but the smaller bottles are available from Amazon and Walmart and Walmart says they have free shipping.
From Amazon, this was my cost:
Wow...if you order it from Huron (the manf) the price of a pint is very, very good compared to 2 oz from Amazon. Basically 16 oz from Huron for a pint for the same price as 6 oz (three 2 oz bottles). But look at Huron's hazmat and handling charges before they even get to shipping. Whoa Nelly!
Oh oh contraire (I think)....the last image above was my test cart from Huron for a pint...and they are charging $48.99 Hazmat.
Am I in error?
Looks like you're right. When I bought it a month ago there was no HAZMAT on pints and smaller (even if you bought 10 pints). I thought I was getting screwed with just the handling fee. I sent them an email and they blamed the high shipping on UPS. The pint container arrived in a 12 pint carton filled with cardboard.
Everything has a limit. It was worth what I paid. It's not worth it with HAZMAT fees.
I got the same sort of thing when I ordered a quart - big box for no reason except that they don't have smaller boxes. I don't think they're set up for small shipments
I don't think they're set up for small shipments
Probably won't be much of an issue now.
^why?
I've considered changing to Neolube from my wax that I use for magnum stuff and apply manually.
I'm thinking I may need to reconsider my strategy now. Advice?
I've considered changing to Neolube from my wax that I use for magnum stuff and apply manually.
I'm thinking I may need to reconsider my strategy now. Advice?
Huron doesn't have to worry about small orders if they price themselves out of the small orders. You may as well buy a couple of small bottles from Walmart or Brownells.
This….after the first firing, if you don’t wet clean, the carbon inside the neck is enough lube. I brush the necks though every time to take some of the crud off.
