LPVO w/ offset red dot, why?

Glassaholic · Friday at 9:47 AM

The idea of piggybacking an RDS is not new, it's just been difficult to catch on especially in the civilian world whereas our operators have been doing it for a while. The biggest hurdle for most civvies is to convince them you don't have to have a solid cheekweld to shoot accurately at short range. The piggybacked RDS becomes more of a chinweld that you train yourself into; there are many benefits to this which others have mentioned above - better with NODS and greater situational awareness.

My buddy over at valor weapons systems (https://valorweaponsystems.com/) built me this pistol, I decided to put a 5x prism on it (because I had it laying around) and decided to throw an RDS on top and it has been surprisingly effective for both near and far...

Trigger Monkey · Friday at 10:05 AM

This is an old thread but I've really come around to a piggy backed red dot after trying offset irons and an offset red dot on rifles. I'm down to just one set of offset irons that I'm using on my Mock12 but they're only there until I get it set up with a 12 o'clock dot too.

RFutch · Friday at 2:21 PM

I love how page one of this thread people were arguing about how many dillo bottle openers and paint mixer they have.

One Holer · Friday at 6:20 PM

koshkin said:
This thread is all sorts of fun...

A couple of points:
1) Fundamentally, an offset or piggybacked red dot sight is there for two reasons: redundancy and options. Redundancy is to account for both possible malfunctions and battery failure in the scope. The options part is aptly demonstrated by the diversity of opinions in this thread. Personally, I am not seeing a whole ton of speed difference between a small red dot and good quality LPVO, but I seem to be marginally faster with a holographic UH-1 than with either when shooting positions are odd. Then again, I am not very fast to start with, so that undoubtedly plays a role.
2) I have a couple of LaRue mounts and if you use the QD feature frequently, they chew up the rail and lose repeatability. Most of the QD mounts I have seen, even the ones that are repeatable if you simply remove them and reinstall them, are more susceptible to being bumped than normal fixed mounts. It probably has something to do with the springs. As far as the repeatability itself goes, a conventional high quality fixed mount is usually more repeatable if you use a torque wrench than any springloaded QD mount. I generally prefer to not use QD mounts when I do not need them. I do continuously test them looking for a good one and so far the inexpensive Burris AR-Signature mount is surprisingly good. I am not 100% sure why and we'll see how long it stays consistent. Perhaps something to do with long clamp engagement surfaces and beefy leaf springs.

ILya

I once read an article whose author tested a lot of the various cantilever fixed mounts on the market for RTZ after taking off and reinstalling. He stated that the Burris AR PEPR mount had the best track record for him.

Malum Prohibitum · Friday at 6:32 PM

The officer that killed the transgender child killer at Covenant School in Nashville used is 45 degree offset red dot, even while one of the other officers urging him forward kept whispering loudly, "LPVO"

Watch the video again.

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LPVO w/ offset red dot, why?

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