22 creedmoor

[xpshooter]

I'll try to get this back on track...
I have 75 ELDMs and a 20 inch barrel coming. Alpha brass.
I have RL26, H1000, H4350, Varget, and Superformance as candidates.
I'd like to use RL26 or H1000, but am thinking I may need a heavier bullet and / or longer barrel to maximize their potential.
Thoughts? Should I just skip right to H4350 since I know that will work?

H4350 has worked well for me using 85.5 grain bullets, 15" XP-100 runs a little over 3000 fps, 24" Rem 700 is running them at 3320 fps.
I'm using the same load for both guns and they shoot great. ( both was built by the same smith, same reamer) I tried RL26 and it worked great in the rifle but the short barreled XP hated it, I'd rather have one load that works well in both so I don't have to worry about getting ammo crossed up.

 

[RHutch]

Has anyone here tried VV N160 with the 75-80 grain bullets?

 

[Timberline284]

Has anyone here tried VV N160 with the 75-80 grain bullets?

Not n160, but n555 works very well

 

[DLS]

N160 …yes one of the first powders I tried in 22 Creedmoor. Worked fine but then Alliant rolled out Reloder 26 and I ran with that thru my first barrel.

 

[RHutch]

I’ve found accuracy nodes with N160 at 44 and 45.8 under the 75eldm. Pressure started above 46.3.

 

[Sogan]

I’m right at 5 months wait time for my barrel. Received the email that it’s done and I submitted my final payment. Followed up 3 days later to inquire on when it would ship and was simply told “this week or next”. 1-2 weeks to ship out the finished barrel seems a little ridiculous but what do I know.

 

[n00g7]

Finally got some time to play with mine, 110 on it now. It’s a Lone Peak (nearest in the red manners CS-2) with a 25.5” 7.37tw med Palma Bart modbb (that was on the tight side) chambered with a custom reamer for 85.5s.

Some of the brass is kinda whack so it’s hard to tell pressure:

But anyways, it’s hitting what I was looking for (3200-3250fps), so all good I guess. Alpha SRP Brass, RL26, 85.5s at about 45k jump (~2.700 COAL). I expect it to speed up a bit more, but I’ll simply drop charge to stay within the 3200-3250 range.

Need to get a NV bridge and rails added to the CS-2 for laser and clip on, since it’ll be the Texas snack deer and critter rifle. Still need to get another scope for it as well, another 420ZCO or maybe a 3.6-18 MK5.

 

[squirrel_slayer]

Has anyone here tried VV N160 with the 75-80 grain bullets?

I'm working on a load with VV N165 with 88's. It's a little slow but man does it shoot!

 

[goinghunting]

How about you all take your petty bullshit somewhere else?

I'll try to get this back on track...
I have 75 ELDMs and a 20 inch barrel coming. Alpha brass.
I have RL26, H1000, H4350, Varget, and Superformance as candidates.
I'd like to use RL26 or H1000, but am thinking I may need a heavier bullet and / or longer barrel to maximize their potential.
Thoughts? Should I just skip right to H4350 since I know that will work?

I have a 20" 8 twist shooting 75 eldms around 3100 into a ragged hole. Was 1/2 moa @1000 with Virgin SRP Alpha brass and RL16..... haven't had a chance to shoot any of the 1F brass yet.

 

[Sogan]

I have a 20" 8 twist shooting 75 eldms around 3100 into a ragged hole. Was 1/2 moa @1000 with Virgin SRP Alpha brass and RL16..... haven't had a chance to shoot any of the 1F brass yet.

That seems like a pretty conservative load as far as MV goes right?

 

[4O6shootist]

I have a 20" 8 twist shooting 75 eldms around 3100 into a ragged hole. Was 1/2 moa @1000 with Virgin SRP Alpha brass and RL16..... haven't had a chance to shoot any of the 1F brass yet.

I run the exact load in an 18", 40gr H4350 with 75s. It's mild in my rifle. By the time I had all. 200x pcs fireformed it was up to 3150 but still easy half moa. 7tw 219 bore osprey barrel chambered by my smith.

 

[Sogan]

If I’m wanting 3450-3500 with a 75 ELD-M would a 22”with H4350 do it relatively easy enough without being on the ragged edge of pressure? This would be a winter coyote gun mostly

 

[4O6shootist]

If I’m wanting 3450-3500 with a 75 ELD-M would a 22”with H4350 do it relatively easy enough without being on the ragged edge of pressure? This would be a winter coyote gun mostly

Ehh that's up there in psi. I ran 77tmk sierra at 3350 with N555 in warm weather and at 3450 in cool temps from a 22" 8tw. It shot well at both velocities. The 75eldm will be lower psi than tmk due to quite a bit less bearing surface. Thats still the top node. I was running lapua brass in that chamber, which holds more powder than alpha. I tried Rl23 and it'd run at 3400 but the charge was heavily compressed causing high SD. H4350 pressured out early for me, at around 3340. Rl16 may get you there.

 

[Bsnyder]

Mine runs the 80.5 grain Berger at 3475 with 26 in barrel. H4350. One of my favorite rifles and it’s the wires. Barrels about toast but man I can’t wait to spin another one up.

 

[DLS]

If I’m wanting 3450-3500 with a 75 ELD-M would a 22”with H4350 do it relatively easy enough without being on the ragged edge of pressure? This would be a winter coyote gun mostly

Short answer is no. You could do it with 26 inch barrel and Reloder 26 at 65k+ PSI

 

[4O6shootist]

Mine runs the 80.5 grain Berger at 3475 with 26 in barrel. H4350. One of my favorite rifles and it’s the wires. Barrels about toast but man I can’t wait to spin another one up.

They are a good time! The short life has pushed me to the 22gt. They come up 200fps short, but 2x the barrel life. I still have a 22cm tho, always will. It just sees hunting duty, not much steel target time.

 

[Bsnyder]

They are a good time! The short life has pushed me to the 22gt. They come up 200fps short, but 2x the barrel life. I still have a 22cm tho, always will. It just sees hunting duty, not much steel target time.

I wish we could hunt with them. Hers sees more steel than anything keep a couple barrels around but man are they fun. I’ve looked at the gt just haven’t talked my self yet. Can’t wait to build my self one. The nephews is in the works now that will be his first rifle. Because I think everyone should own at least 1 22 creed. It will be hard on coyotes.

 

[DIBBS]

I've been contemplating a 22 Creedmoor for a couple years.... still haven't had a barrel spun up. Has anyone worn out a ModBB barrel in a 22 creedmoor, and what was your approximate round count.

 

[goinghunting]

That seems like a pretty conservative load as far as MV goes right?

It definitely is mild. But it shoots so good, and for the kids so I don't care.

 

[DLS]

Well it’s not a wildcat any longer

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[4O6shootist]

Hornady submitted dimensions to saami like 3 years ago.

 

[DLS]

Entirely possible but from that point was it adapted ,standardized, ammunition manufactured. If so I guess I missed it.

 

[Lawnboi]

Screw the factory ammo, I want to hear more about the 80g eldx

 

[DLS]

I ran some of the factory 80gr ELD-X thru the LabRadar today from an 18/20/26 inch barreled rifles.
18 inch

20 inch barrel

And 26 inch barrel

 

[XTREM HTR16]

So I sold my 22 creed a few years ago and decided I needed one again, so sent barrel and action and parts to my smith to spin it up. 7 twist Brux barrel #4 contour so will be lighter hunting/varmint rifle. Going 18" with Ultra 7 CB.

Planning on shooting the 88 ELDM as primary bullet, with the 77 TMK and 75 ELDM for options. Alpha OCD LRP brass. Smith said go with a .259" neck to handle thicker brass.

What freebore is recommended?

 

[Lawnboi]

So I sold my 22 creed a few years ago and decided I needed one again, so sent barrel and action and parts to my smith to spin it up. 7 twist Brux barrel #4 contour so will be lighter hunting/varmint rifle. Going 18" with Ultra 7 CB.

Planning on shooting the 88 ELDM as primary bullet, with the 77 TMK and 75 ELDM for options. Alpha OCD LRP brass. Smith said go with a .259" neck to handle thicker brass.

What freebore is recommended?

.100 pva prefit put 88s boat tail/ bearing surface right at the neck shoulder junction jammed… on a fresh barrel.

 

[4O6shootist]

So I sold my 22 creed a few years ago and decided I needed one again, so sent barrel and action and parts to my smith to spin it up. 7 twist Brux barrel #4 contour so will be lighter hunting/varmint rifle. Going 18" with Ultra 7 CB.

Planning on shooting the 88 ELDM as primary bullet, with the 77 TMK and 75 ELDM for options. Alpha OCD LRP brass. Smith said go with a .259" neck to handle thicker brass.

What freebore is recommended?

My smith cuts a 260nk chamber, his standard freebore for 75-85gr bullets is 0.100, but I punched it out a other 30k when I received it. It's an 18" 7tw 3b, run a ultra 7 on it. 77/75 shoot well around 3150, 85-90gr bullets at 3050, these are mild loads.

 

[Jgunner]

So, my tikka got a new xcaliber barrel. 1/8 twist, 18", putting berger 90's though it, played with seating depths some, couple powders like rl26 and 4831sc. Virgin srp peterson brass, cci magnums.

So this group, not too bad for 6 shots at 100 yards. Somewhere in the teens shot wise so basically brand new.

So about this group, 3/10th charge difference on the bottom 4 of this group(rl 26). The top 2 are a defferent powder(4831sc) and a third charge weight.
About 3,000 with 4831sc and 3100 with rl26 with no pressure on small primer but did get plunger marks ever so lightly.

This was not a fluke, as with ladder testing 3 different loads before this, 5 rounds each are all within a 5/8" ragged hole and i wasnt really trying.

 

[Jgunner]

Here is the second group of ladder testing, all rl26, i dont recall the powder charges exactly but 43-44gr and i believe ended up at 3100 with 43.6 in virgin srp brass. These were shots 4 through mid teens with some mirage off the can. 80° out and very high humidity with rain all around.

 

[towerofpower93]

Damn, is 22C similar to 6.5x47L or some of the BR/BRA cartridges in that it's just really easy to find a good load?

 

[Jgunner]

Damn, is 22C similar to 6.5x47L or some of the BR/BRA cartridges in that it's just really easy to find a good load?

Absolutely. The other rifles we shot are doing the same thing.

 

[waspocrew]

Finally had time to start playing with my 22 Creed a few weeks ago. You guys probably already know, but Texas Ammunition loads the 80 gr ELDM in Peterson brass. I bought 100 rounds when it was on sale during Black Friday and used a box for the first 20 rounds down my barrel. Avg of 3184 FPS from my 22” barrel. My Bartlein seemed to like it, especially once the barrel fouled up a bit. Here’s the progress of four 5 shot groups at 100 yards (first 20 shots ever out of the barrel).

 

[waspocrew]

Zermatt TL3
Bartlein 1:7.5 medium palma at 22”
TT Diamond
Manners PRS2 w/mini chassis
NF NX8 2.5-20x MOAR
Gunwerks 8ight can

Shooting well with the 88 gr ELDM going 3031 FPS. I definitely have room to go with this load, but didn’t have time keep messing with it. 40.7 gr RL-23, alpha brass, CCI 450, 88 ELDM .020” off lands. Ended up taking a doe antelope with this at 430 yards a week ago.

 

[david walter]

Haven't read through the whole thing. Are any of you loading on a progressive reloader like the Dillon 550B/C?

Which powder funnel are you using?

 

[Krob95]

Picked this up from another member here. 20” straight taper proof carbon 8tw 22cm spun up by SPR. Need to go pick up my Magnus SR from TBAC on Thursday. Looks like I can expect some good speeds from this thing paired with 80gr eldm’s. Will make for an excellent coyote rifle!

 

[Bsnyder]

I think I just creamed my shorts.

 

[cmk81]

Picked this up from another member here. 20” straight taper proof carbon 8tw 22cm spun up by SPR. Need to go pick up my Magnus SR from TBAC on Thursday. Looks like I can expect some good speeds from this thing paired with 80gr eldm’s. Will make for an excellent coyote rifle!

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Any idea on the manufacturer of the cheek pad?

 

[david walter]

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Is one version.

 

[4O6shootist]

Any idea on the manufacturer of the cheek pad?

Particular one in that photo looks to be a weibad.

 

[cmk81]

Thank you guys

 

[Krob95]

It is indeed a Wiebad mini cheek pad

 

[david walter]

I purchased this Tikka 22 Creedmoor from Landboy on 24hourcampfire.com. Discovered in the process it was the 223 I'd sold him a while back, and he'd rechambered it.

Took it out yesterday with Alpha brass, WLRP, Superperformance and Hornady 75 BTHPs jammed 0.01" into the lands. Scope is a 6x MQ.

Never did find pressure, at least as measured by primer cratering. I'm liking the 41 grain load.

Might ladder up to the book max of 43+ just to see.

All at 100 yards, all three shot groups.

 

[Altoonabcm157]

Has anyone tried using cutting edge 79gr MTAC with their 22 creed?

 

[ncyotecaller]

Wanting to shoot 22 Creedmoor in regional PRS matches next year and save my 6.5 with the heavies for two day matches. Anyone tried 90 SMK’s with H4350? Should I pick up 4831SC for the 90’s and 95’s if they ever become available again? Obviously Reloader 26 is fairy dust like H4895.

 

[4O6shootist]

3200is speed limit at most matches I believe. I'd run H1000 and run it at 3100fps or so to not smoke your throat. 22cm is a great cartridge, but it's very overbore and freebore grows quickly!

 

[max1840]

Wanting to shoot 22 Creedmoor in regional PRS matches next year and save my 6.5 with the heavies for two day matches. Anyone tried 90 SMK’s with H4350? Should I pick up 4831SC for the 90’s and 95’s if they ever become available again? Obviously Reloader 26 is fairy dust like H4895.

I've had good luck with N565, H4831 and RL23 with 90 grain SMK's. It's a good shooting cartridge.

 

[wildturkey2]

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I have some R26 and R23 that I want to try. Do you think 45gr of R26 would be a good starting point? Using Hornady 6 creedmoor necked down at the moment.

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[Bsnyder]

Having a new 22 creed barrel spun up. Going 28 inches long shooting 88 grain eldm’s has anyone had issues with them blowing up? May also try to have the wife draw a deer tag and let her rock one with it. Also I’m anticipating That bullet running 3300-3350 out of a 28 inch tube.

 

[Bsnyder]

If you read the thread, you will probably come to this conclusion:

1. Yes

2. 3350 is probably too fast. Both from a generalized top-end load and chamber pressure perspective but also that is over 300K RPMs even in an 1:8".

3. There are some antidotal guesses in the thread that longer barrels can contribute to blowing up bullets if all the other conditions required to blow up bullets already exist.

But don't feel like you have to take my word for it. Read the thread for yourself.

We can still cut the barrel down I just dropped it off. I’ll start over on the thread I have read it all but that was a few months ago when I added data from the old 22 creed we had with 80.5 grain Berger’s at 3450.

 

[Taylorbok]

Wanting to shoot 22 Creedmoor in regional PRS matches next year and save my 6.5 with the heavies for two day matches. Anyone tried 90 SMK’s with H4350? Should I pick up 4831SC for the 90’s and 95’s if they ever become available again? Obviously Reloader 26 is fairy dust like H4895.

I don't think that's a good idea unless its for like 1 match. To hard on barrels