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Re: Loads for .300WM
26" Gaillard barrel 1-10" twist
Neck turned Nosler Brass
Redding comp dies with .332 bushing for .002 neck tension
Federal 215M primer
68.4 grains H4831SC Powder
Berger 210 VLDs seated .005" off the lands
Tight chamber .337" neck
Chronies about 2805 fps
AVERAGES about .25 MOA
As a side note all my best loads for the .300 WM with previous barrels etc... have always chronied between 2800-2860 fps. I have found that for whatever the reason the best accuracy always falls in that area for the 200-210 grain bullets.
26" Gaillard barrel 1-10" twist
Neck turned Nosler Brass
Redding comp dies with .332 bushing for .002 neck tension
Federal 215M primer
68.4 grains H4831SC Powder
Berger 210 VLDs seated .005" off the lands
Tight chamber .337" neck
Chronies about 2805 fps
AVERAGES about .25 MOA
As a side note all my best loads for the .300 WM with previous barrels etc... have always chronied between 2800-2860 fps. I have found that for whatever the reason the best accuracy always falls in that area for the 200-210 grain bullets.
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Re: Loads for .300WM
300wm 26" 1/10 twist pss/sendero
ww case
210 berger
73gr RL22
215 primer
jamed as deep in the lands as i can get.
2850 fps at muzzle 60 degree temp.
nail driver hot or cold
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300WM PSS/SENDERO 26" 1/10 twist
R@P CASE
77gr RL22
175smk
215 primer
3.400 oal
3120fps 90 deg
Ok hot nail driver cold
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PAI 300WM
27" MIKE ROCK BARREL 1/8 TWIST
WW CASE
200 smk
72.5 RL22
215 primer
3.550 OAL
3000 fps at 95 deg.
nail driver allways and still going!
300wm 26" 1/10 twist pss/sendero
ww case
210 berger
73gr RL22
215 primer
jamed as deep in the lands as i can get.
2850 fps at muzzle 60 degree temp.
nail driver hot or cold
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300WM PSS/SENDERO 26" 1/10 twist
R@P CASE
77gr RL22
175smk
215 primer
3.400 oal
3120fps 90 deg
Ok hot nail driver cold
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PAI 300WM
27" MIKE ROCK BARREL 1/8 TWIST
WW CASE
200 smk
72.5 RL22
215 primer
3.550 OAL
3000 fps at 95 deg.
nail driver allways and still going!
Re: Loads for .300WM
200gr SMK and SGK shooting out of a 25.5 in barrel with
76.5 of RL25 in Win cases with 215M primers gets 3000 fps in one
rifle and a 24in barrel 2830fps same load and both rifles shoot a sub min with this load.
200gr SMK and SGK shooting out of a 25.5 in barrel with
76.5 of RL25 in Win cases with 215M primers gets 3000 fps in one
rifle and a 24in barrel 2830fps same load and both rifles shoot a sub min with this load.
Re: Loads for .300WM
300WM Rem 700P factory tube setback to +.012 from zero headspace on shoulder. ***Work up to these loads as no load will shoot the same pressures in different chamber/bore!
Both these are .5 moa loads in my rifle.
SMK 220 grain 2925ish fps
Win Case
73.0 gr RL25
215M primer
Fed GMM clone load
SMK 190 gr
Win case
65 gr IMR4350
fed215M
300WM Rem 700P factory tube setback to +.012 from zero headspace on shoulder. ***Work up to these loads as no load will shoot the same pressures in different chamber/bore!
Both these are .5 moa loads in my rifle.
SMK 220 grain 2925ish fps
Win Case
73.0 gr RL25
215M primer
Fed GMM clone load
SMK 190 gr
Win case
65 gr IMR4350
fed215M
Re: Loads for .300WM
210vld 2900fps
Lapua brass
72.5 gr RL22
CCI mag r primer
210vld 3000fps
Lapua brass
82 gr Retumbo
CCI mag r primer
As always work up. These loads shoot 1/4" at 100yd in my rifle.
210vld 2900fps
Lapua brass
72.5 gr RL22
CCI mag r primer
210vld 3000fps
Lapua brass
82 gr Retumbo
CCI mag r primer
As always work up. These loads shoot 1/4" at 100yd in my rifle.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
<span style="font-weight: bold">From LOBO:</span><span style="font-weight: bold"> .300WSM</span>
Tikka T3 factory barrel 24.5"
Hunting Load
Winchester brass
Federal Magnum Match primer
59 grains IMR4320
150 grain Nosler Partition
2.85" coal
I don't have any chrono data, but its a mild & accurate load.
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Officer Jamie Walker_Waynesboro MS PD_05-11-1973--09-28-2005 RIP my friend.
http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=17883
<span style="font-weight: bold">Another From LOBO:</span>
Tikka T3 factory barrel 24.5"
Hunting Load
Winchester brass
Federal Magnum Match primer
RL-15 57.5 grains
168 grain Barnes TSX
2.85" coal
2,993 fps (approximate fps from Quick Load)
_________________________
Officer Jamie Walker_Waynesboro MS PD_05-11-1973--09-28-2005 RIP my friend.
http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=17883
<span style="font-weight: bold">From LOBO:</span><span style="font-weight: bold"> .300WSM</span>
Tikka T3 factory barrel 24.5"
Hunting Load
Winchester brass
Federal Magnum Match primer
59 grains IMR4320
150 grain Nosler Partition
2.85" coal
I don't have any chrono data, but its a mild & accurate load.
_________________________
Officer Jamie Walker_Waynesboro MS PD_05-11-1973--09-28-2005 RIP my friend.
http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=17883
<span style="font-weight: bold">Another From LOBO:</span>
Tikka T3 factory barrel 24.5"
Hunting Load
Winchester brass
Federal Magnum Match primer
RL-15 57.5 grains
168 grain Barnes TSX
2.85" coal
2,993 fps (approximate fps from Quick Load)
_________________________
Officer Jamie Walker_Waynesboro MS PD_05-11-1973--09-28-2005 RIP my friend.
http://www.odmp.org/officer.php?oid=17883
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
<span style="font-weight: bold">FROM RHUTCH:.300WSM</span>
Hunting Load
25" Rock 11 twist
150 TSX
Win Brass
210M primer
69.0 gr. IMR4350 (work up to this)
COAL 2.845
Not chronoed...yet...but is a .5moa load in my rifle.
Another load...same rifle
180 NBT
Win brass
210M primer
63.5 gr. IMR4350
COAL 2.835
Edited by RHutch (10-26-2007 03:36)
<span style="font-weight: bold">FROM RHUTCH:.300WSM</span>
Hunting Load
25" Rock 11 twist
150 TSX
Win Brass
210M primer
69.0 gr. IMR4350 (work up to this)
COAL 2.845
Not chronoed...yet...but is a .5moa load in my rifle.
Another load...same rifle
180 NBT
Win brass
210M primer
63.5 gr. IMR4350
COAL 2.835
Edited by RHutch (10-26-2007 03:36)
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
I have found a pretty good load for my Winchester Coyote Light 300WSM using:
180 Gr Hornady Interbond
Win Brass
Federal 215GM Primers
66.0 Gr of IMR-4831
OAL 2.862
Havent Chrony'd yet, but should be running right around 2950-2985
This load will consistently produce below .50 MOA. I have shot a .301 & a .365 MOA now with this load. good enough for me with practically a factory rifle.
I have found a pretty good load for my Winchester Coyote Light 300WSM using:
180 Gr Hornady Interbond
Win Brass
Federal 215GM Primers
66.0 Gr of IMR-4831
OAL 2.862
Havent Chrony'd yet, but should be running right around 2950-2985
This load will consistently produce below .50 MOA. I have shot a .301 & a .365 MOA now with this load. good enough for me with practically a factory rifle.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
300wsm loads
fn spr 24 in. barrel
Win. case prepped
190 gr. berger kissing the lands
67.0 H-4350
210m primer
3000 fps out of my rifle and sub .5moa out to 500m this is my hunting load.
work up to this because this is a very hot load..
300wsm loads
fn spr 24 in. barrel
Win. case prepped
190 gr. berger kissing the lands
67.0 H-4350
210m primer
3000 fps out of my rifle and sub .5moa out to 500m this is my hunting load.
work up to this because this is a very hot load..
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
Reeldoc. I'm useing the 220 SMK Moly, in my 300 WM. 26" 1in 10 tw. .210" off the lands. WW brass, WLRM,76.0 gr. H Retumbo. Getting right @ 2700 fps. & .320" groups @ 100 yds. I've also tried several different lengths with no real change in accuracy.
Reeldoc. I'm useing the 220 SMK Moly, in my 300 WM. 26" 1in 10 tw. .210" off the lands. WW brass, WLRM,76.0 gr. H Retumbo. Getting right @ 2700 fps. & .320" groups @ 100 yds. I've also tried several different lengths with no real change in accuracy.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
300wsm:
190gr VLDS
66.6grs Rl22
Win Brass
215M
Jam fit
2975+ FPS
Factory Coyote
300wsm:
190gr VLDS
66.6grs Rl22
Win Brass
215M
Jam fit
2975+ FPS
Factory Coyote
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: REELDOC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For those of you using 220SMK's, how far back off the lands are you setting them? I'm at 3.55oal with .020 off the lands and getting ready to do some tweaking. </div></div>
Touching or within .001". But not jammed in there.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: REELDOC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For those of you using 220SMK's, how far back off the lands are you setting them? I'm at 3.55oal with .020 off the lands and getting ready to do some tweaking. </div></div>
Touching or within .001". But not jammed in there.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
300Wm 700 sendaro
175 SM
75.5g of RL-22
Win Brass
Fed Mag primer
Will shoot 1 Moa for groups. Shot 30 shots, 6 groups that avg .95 moa. Some groups were betetr than others, that does not give me the rigt to call it a 1/2 gun
300Wm 700 sendaro
175 SM
75.5g of RL-22
Win Brass
Fed Mag primer
Will shoot 1 Moa for groups. Shot 30 shots, 6 groups that avg .95 moa. Some groups were betetr than others, that does not give me the rigt to call it a 1/2 gun
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
Time for me to contribute again and again………
Following information derived from 300 winmag Rem 700 LA with 27” Lilja heavy taper, 3-groove, 1:10 twist barrel with 242 rounds down the tube. Loads were shot over an Oehler 35P with screens set at 15 feet. Unless otherwise noted temp was 50 degrees with variable cloudiness, 3-5 wind. Shooting was done at 100 yards to compare known previous 100 yard zeros. Testing was done on the ground with Harris pod with claws. All rounds were loaded into new prep’d and trimmed Win brass .015 off the lands (unless otherwise noted) with -.004 neck tension. 3-shot groups were used for testing so I could still move my shoulder the next day. Note: this finicky little bitch........but is finally showing promise
190SMK loaded at 3.340
69.3 grains H4350, 210M
M=2831, E=52, S=26
Absolutely sucked
Black Hills match 190's shoot a lot better so I must be screwing up my loads
190SMK loaded at 3.340
72.7 grains RE22, 210M
M=2905, E=7, S=5
Absolutely sucked again
200SMK loaded at 3.340
67 grains H4350, 210M
M=2740, E=4, S=2
Absolutely kick ass load, gonna speed it up a tad for shits and grins
200SMK loaded at 3.340
69.6 grains H4831SC, 210M
M=2763, E=20, S=10
Almost a kick ass load, gonna speed it up a tad for shits and grins
200SMK loaded at 3.340
72.3 grains RE22, 210M
M=2910, E=24, S=12
Sucked.......I think the 200 will be a 2750-2800 load
210SMK
67.5 grains H4350, 210M
M=2742, E=21, S=11
Sucked big time
210SMK
70.7 grains H4831SC, 210M
M=2785`, E=9, S=4
Damn good but not kick ass
210SMK
71 grains RE22, 210M
M=2791, E=14, S=7
Not bad
220SMK
67.5 grains H4350, 210M
M=2722, E=10, S=5
Sucked big time
220SMK
70.7 grains H4831SC, 210M
M=2790, E=14, S=7
Damn good but not kick ass
220SMK
71 grains RE22, 210M
M=2812, E=5, S=2
Not bad
I may try Berger VLD's in this barrel at a later date.
Time for me to contribute again and again………
Following information derived from 300 winmag Rem 700 LA with 27” Lilja heavy taper, 3-groove, 1:10 twist barrel with 242 rounds down the tube. Loads were shot over an Oehler 35P with screens set at 15 feet. Unless otherwise noted temp was 50 degrees with variable cloudiness, 3-5 wind. Shooting was done at 100 yards to compare known previous 100 yard zeros. Testing was done on the ground with Harris pod with claws. All rounds were loaded into new prep’d and trimmed Win brass .015 off the lands (unless otherwise noted) with -.004 neck tension. 3-shot groups were used for testing so I could still move my shoulder the next day. Note: this finicky little bitch........but is finally showing promise
190SMK loaded at 3.340
69.3 grains H4350, 210M
M=2831, E=52, S=26
Absolutely sucked
Black Hills match 190's shoot a lot better so I must be screwing up my loads
190SMK loaded at 3.340
72.7 grains RE22, 210M
M=2905, E=7, S=5
Absolutely sucked again
200SMK loaded at 3.340
67 grains H4350, 210M
M=2740, E=4, S=2
Absolutely kick ass load, gonna speed it up a tad for shits and grins
200SMK loaded at 3.340
69.6 grains H4831SC, 210M
M=2763, E=20, S=10
Almost a kick ass load, gonna speed it up a tad for shits and grins
200SMK loaded at 3.340
72.3 grains RE22, 210M
M=2910, E=24, S=12
Sucked.......I think the 200 will be a 2750-2800 load
210SMK
67.5 grains H4350, 210M
M=2742, E=21, S=11
Sucked big time
210SMK
70.7 grains H4831SC, 210M
M=2785`, E=9, S=4
Damn good but not kick ass
210SMK
71 grains RE22, 210M
M=2791, E=14, S=7
Not bad
220SMK
67.5 grains H4350, 210M
M=2722, E=10, S=5
Sucked big time
220SMK
70.7 grains H4831SC, 210M
M=2790, E=14, S=7
Damn good but not kick ass
220SMK
71 grains RE22, 210M
M=2812, E=5, S=2
Not bad
I may try Berger VLD's in this barrel at a later date.
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
300WM Sendero SF
#1:
200gr SMK
74.0gr Re22 (careful, over book but no pressure signs in my gun)
Win primer and case
3000fps avg, sub-.5 MOA
#2:
200gr Accubond
73.2gr Re22
Win primer and case
3000 fps avg, sub-.5 MOA
Both just a couple ticks off the lands.
300WM Sendero SF
#1:
200gr SMK
74.0gr Re22 (careful, over book but no pressure signs in my gun)
Win primer and case
3000fps avg, sub-.5 MOA
#2:
200gr Accubond
73.2gr Re22
Win primer and case
3000 fps avg, sub-.5 MOA
Both just a couple ticks off the lands.
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
Question for you 300 shooters:
My Lyman manual says the powder that generates the highest velocity and is the most accurate with 190s and 200s is RX25. I've never shot RX25. Any opinions on it?
Just scored some Redding dies and am anxious put some rounds together.
Question for you 300 shooters:
My Lyman manual says the powder that generates the highest velocity and is the most accurate with 190s and 200s is RX25. I've never shot RX25. Any opinions on it?
Just scored some Redding dies and am anxious put some rounds together.
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
anybody have a neck dia of turned (just too clean up) laoded rounds for a 300wsm i'm thinking .337, .338ish i turn my 308 to 014 and use a .333 neck dia giving a 336 loaded round... does that sound about right to you all???
anybody have a neck dia of turned (just too clean up) laoded rounds for a 300wsm i'm thinking .337, .338ish i turn my 308 to 014 and use a .333 neck dia giving a 336 loaded round... does that sound about right to you all???
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
Custom Savage 12 28" 1-11 twist.
Berger 210 VLD
Norma Brass
CCI-BR2 Primers
62.3 Grains IMR-7828ssc
AV- 2752
ES- 13
SD- 9
Shoots .2-.3
Custom Savage 12 28" 1-11 twist.
Berger 210 VLD
Norma Brass
CCI-BR2 Primers
62.3 Grains IMR-7828ssc
AV- 2752
ES- 13
SD- 9
Shoots .2-.3
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
Here is an excellent load, that I found yesterday- well under .5MOA
300WSM
Win Brass
190 Berger VLD Jammed into the lands
69.5grns of IMR 7828 SSC
Fed210M
3015FPS via 29" tube
Here is an excellent load, that I found yesterday- well under .5MOA
300WSM
Win Brass
190 Berger VLD Jammed into the lands
69.5grns of IMR 7828 SSC
Fed210M
3015FPS via 29" tube
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
Does any body know what sort of barrel life they are getting with any of the above posted loads. Just wondering. Brock
Does any body know what sort of barrel life they are getting with any of the above posted loads. Just wondering. Brock
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
Gentlemen, may Large Rifle primers be used rather than Magnum primers for 300WM?
Gentlemen, may Large Rifle primers be used rather than Magnum primers for 300WM?
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
My 300wsm loaded round is .338 to .339 in stock WW brass
with .015 to .014 wall so I'm going with an .336 bushing.
69.9 of RL25 is getting me 2740 with 190 BVLDz 020 into the lands
@ 3.080 out of modified box metal 24" barrel, F210GM
bout 1/2 moa
Similar results with
66.0 to 66.4 gr of 7828 same same same
The Norma I got wetcaps -1 of the WW unfired and is .016 neck wall
F215GMz got me 20 more
My 300wsm loaded round is .338 to .339 in stock WW brass
with .015 to .014 wall so I'm going with an .336 bushing.
69.9 of RL25 is getting me 2740 with 190 BVLDz 020 into the lands
@ 3.080 out of modified box metal 24" barrel, F210GM
bout 1/2 moa
Similar results with
66.0 to 66.4 gr of 7828 same same same
The Norma I got wetcaps -1 of the WW unfired and is .016 neck wall
F215GMz got me 20 more
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nolo263</div><div class="ubbcode-body">300wsm loads
fn spr 24 in. barrel
Win. case prepped
190 gr. berger kissing the lands
67.0 H-4350
210m primer
3000 fps out of my rifle and sub .5moa out to 500m this is my hunting load.
work up to this because this is a very hot load.. </div></div>
I am working out a new load out of my 300wsm
win case
210 primer
>>> gr. of 4350 (dont want to post weight yet due to poss. boom)
155 scenar
= 3580 out of my rifle
No pressure signs whatsoever. I am going to try varget out next due to having to use way to much 4350 in the case and it was causing seating problem. what do you guys think about the varget??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nolo263</div><div class="ubbcode-body">300wsm loads
fn spr 24 in. barrel
Win. case prepped
190 gr. berger kissing the lands
67.0 H-4350
210m primer
3000 fps out of my rifle and sub .5moa out to 500m this is my hunting load.
work up to this because this is a very hot load.. </div></div>
I am working out a new load out of my 300wsm
win case
210 primer
>>> gr. of 4350 (dont want to post weight yet due to poss. boom)
155 scenar
= 3580 out of my rifle
No pressure signs whatsoever. I am going to try varget out next due to having to use way to much 4350 in the case and it was causing seating problem. what do you guys think about the varget??
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
anyone using 208 a-max with RL-22 in the 300wsm? been thinking about trying this but i don't have a powder charge to start with. man i need to pick up quick load one of these days
anyone using 208 a-max with RL-22 in the 300wsm? been thinking about trying this but i don't have a powder charge to start with. man i need to pick up quick load one of these days
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
Ok for those who are shooting the Berger's in the WSM no one has really given their OAL just keep stating that its kissing the lands? What is your OAL? I am at 2.90" OAL shooting the 175VLD's is that what everyone else is close to? The book and Berger state that the OAL should be 2.60", but my groups really opened up at that length.
Ok for those who are shooting the Berger's in the WSM no one has really given their OAL just keep stating that its kissing the lands? What is your OAL? I am at 2.90" OAL shooting the 175VLD's is that what everyone else is close to? The book and Berger state that the OAL should be 2.60", but my groups really opened up at that length.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
Need some help guys! My Remmy sendero is a tack driver but ONLY with Federal High Energy 180g Trophy Bonded Bear Claws. I have tried almost every commericial ammo from 150g-200 grain and it slings the shit out of them. Trying some 180 seirra game kings with H4831SC. (NO luck) I will hunt with the Frederal Factory Trophy Bonded Bear Claws as my gun loves them but any advise on something cheaper to shoot. Speer is very proud of the damn bullet. About $30 for 25 bullets. Loaded ammo is about $50 +/-
I would sell this gun but my parents bought it for me aboout ten years ago and has sentimental value. Any advise on something similar and cheaper? Thanks!
Need some help guys! My Remmy sendero is a tack driver but ONLY with Federal High Energy 180g Trophy Bonded Bear Claws. I have tried almost every commericial ammo from 150g-200 grain and it slings the shit out of them. Trying some 180 seirra game kings with H4831SC. (NO luck) I will hunt with the Frederal Factory Trophy Bonded Bear Claws as my gun loves them but any advise on something cheaper to shoot. Speer is very proud of the damn bullet. About $30 for 25 bullets. Loaded ammo is about $50 +/-
I would sell this gun but my parents bought it for me aboout ten years ago and has sentimental value. Any advise on something similar and cheaper? Thanks!
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
I used 56.6 of varget under 168gn nosler custom comp. with a federal magnum match primer, just over 3.5". this load in my rifle did under MOA thru 500.
81 gn of h1000 under 168gn nosler or 168 amax, with fereral mag. match primers. this shoots MOA at 100 and would do better at 300 if i had a new barrel.
I used 56.6 of varget under 168gn nosler custom comp. with a federal magnum match primer, just over 3.5". this load in my rifle did under MOA thru 500.
81 gn of h1000 under 168gn nosler or 168 amax, with fereral mag. match primers. this shoots MOA at 100 and would do better at 300 if i had a new barrel.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
Thank you Rookie; personally I am coming to believe deburring flash holes and neck tension / turning / trimming are possibly more advantageous respectring accuracy than magnum primers for 3wm.
Thank you Rookie; personally I am coming to believe deburring flash holes and neck tension / turning / trimming are possibly more advantageous respectring accuracy than magnum primers for 3wm.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
All these loads, I am surprised I didn't see any H-1000. My 300 win likes RP Brass Fed 215M 180 NAB 75.5 RL 22 kissing the lands. But H-1000 is hard to beat for me w/200 gr bullet, not the fastest but groups are tight hot or cold
All these loads, I am surprised I didn't see any H-1000. My 300 win likes RP Brass Fed 215M 180 NAB 75.5 RL 22 kissing the lands. But H-1000 is hard to beat for me w/200 gr bullet, not the fastest but groups are tight hot or cold
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
ok my stick shoots the following
300wm
32" archer bbl 32mm thick
chamber cut to be 15 thou into the lands and be sat ontop of 74.5gr h1000 fgmm 210 vld's
when seated the bullet is pushed back to give 98-100%fill
spec'd out with gunsmith, match chamber to match my full length die, and estimated seatin depth for the throat to be cut was worked out from info gained from my stock pss playing around with loads
basically I worked out that in a ten twist opt vel is 2850 with bullet jammed into the lands and a load of 78.5 h1000 I was getting that vel and a ballistic program estimated that I would get 'x' with an increased bbl length and if I cut back on powder to get the wanted 2850fps I would need a charge of 74-74.5
the load was allready based on a jam fit so throat was cut so that it would be engaging lands when 74.5gr h1000 and bullet sat right on top of the load (100%fill)
got gun back, loaded in the field 74.5gr h1000 seated out 15thou longger than throat measuremant loaded, kissed my ass good bye and fired,,,,,,fuck me I am alive
looked at crono and got something like 2847fps first load
this was safe because it was all based on info gained from a jammed load and the load was significantly reduced because of the extra 6" bbl length and was a minimum load according to manuals
however light loads can be very dangerous in 300's in saami spec chambers, this chamber was spec'd out for this
ok my stick shoots the following
300wm
32" archer bbl 32mm thick
chamber cut to be 15 thou into the lands and be sat ontop of 74.5gr h1000 fgmm 210 vld's
when seated the bullet is pushed back to give 98-100%fill
spec'd out with gunsmith, match chamber to match my full length die, and estimated seatin depth for the throat to be cut was worked out from info gained from my stock pss playing around with loads
basically I worked out that in a ten twist opt vel is 2850 with bullet jammed into the lands and a load of 78.5 h1000 I was getting that vel and a ballistic program estimated that I would get 'x' with an increased bbl length and if I cut back on powder to get the wanted 2850fps I would need a charge of 74-74.5
the load was allready based on a jam fit so throat was cut so that it would be engaging lands when 74.5gr h1000 and bullet sat right on top of the load (100%fill)
got gun back, loaded in the field 74.5gr h1000 seated out 15thou longger than throat measuremant loaded, kissed my ass good bye and fired,,,,,,fuck me I am alive
looked at crono and got something like 2847fps first load
this was safe because it was all based on info gained from a jammed load and the load was significantly reduced because of the extra 6" bbl length and was a minimum load according to manuals
however light loads can be very dangerous in 300's in saami spec chambers, this chamber was spec'd out for this
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
300 WSM
I have not yet cronoed this....
190 berger VLD .002-.003 into the lands
H4831sc @ 66.5 grains
norma brass
Winchester Larger Rifle primers
5 shot group was well under 1/2" at 100 yards
This is out of a FN SPR and this load is at the top end of hodgdon's load data for powder charge.
300 WSM
I have not yet cronoed this....
190 berger VLD .002-.003 into the lands
H4831sc @ 66.5 grains
norma brass
Winchester Larger Rifle primers
5 shot group was well under 1/2" at 100 yards
This is out of a FN SPR and this load is at the top end of hodgdon's load data for powder charge.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
Niles...
I know you are a good shooter and those awesome groups you shot were part machine but also part man. I was wondering if you can test this load out to 300 yards and see how it performs. Please let me know how it does. I'm really recommending the 190 VLD for my brother and his SPR A1 but would like to know how the VLD performs at longer ranges. Please post your results too.
Niles...
I know you are a good shooter and those awesome groups you shot were part machine but also part man. I was wondering if you can test this load out to 300 yards and see how it performs. Please let me know how it does. I'm really recommending the 190 VLD for my brother and his SPR A1 but would like to know how the VLD performs at longer ranges. Please post your results too.
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
Paoers,
I shot this load at 200 and approx 285. It seems to be keeping 1/2 moa. I shot 285 today and the group for 4 was 1.8 wide and .9 high. I had a gusting cross wind so I believe that it should be under 1/2 moa. I didnt count the 5th shot as I fliched just before the trigger broke, pulling that shot 3 inches down.... But I will try this again and at 300 (or longer) instead of 285. Im in the process of making a drop chart and hope to take it as far as 700. However this will be difficult because I do not have a range that is longer than 200 so I have to shoot out in a field, and to get any distance, I have to shot through two tree lines. Makes it interesting....
Paoers,
I shot this load at 200 and approx 285. It seems to be keeping 1/2 moa. I shot 285 today and the group for 4 was 1.8 wide and .9 high. I had a gusting cross wind so I believe that it should be under 1/2 moa. I didnt count the 5th shot as I fliched just before the trigger broke, pulling that shot 3 inches down.... But I will try this again and at 300 (or longer) instead of 285. Im in the process of making a drop chart and hope to take it as far as 700. However this will be difficult because I do not have a range that is longer than 200 so I have to shoot out in a field, and to get any distance, I have to shot through two tree lines. Makes it interesting....
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
Niles,
Just in case you are interested, my brother in law has a FN PBR also in a 300 WSM. He shoots 175 SMK with H4350 at 64.5 grain and it shoots single bug hole at 100 yards too. His groups at 300 yards weren't all that, but last season he took a blacktail at 800 yards, another at 600 yards, and a coyote at 700 yards. All were one shot kills. I was impressed. You might want to give the SMK a try too. I just like the Berger for it's sexy BC. Performance might be the same as the SMK.
Niles,
Just in case you are interested, my brother in law has a FN PBR also in a 300 WSM. He shoots 175 SMK with H4350 at 64.5 grain and it shoots single bug hole at 100 yards too. His groups at 300 yards weren't all that, but last season he took a blacktail at 800 yards, another at 600 yards, and a coyote at 700 yards. All were one shot kills. I was impressed. You might want to give the SMK a try too. I just like the Berger for it's sexy BC. Performance might be the same as the SMK.
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Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
i've been loading 300 wm with imr 4064 208 gr amax @ 61.3 gr / i've been getting nice groups but i get a staggler moving my group from 3 inchs at 500yrds to a 5-6 inch group / i'm in the middle working up a load with h1000 to try to get more consistant groups but i don't know how far to seat this bullet it is packing the the powder so hard it's leaving a ring on the bullet /know i have to throw out some of the loads "i've tryed to seat the bullets just behind the rifleings with the old loads" but then the bullets don't fit in the clip, i can live with not putting the bullets in the clip if i know that its ok to go past the suggested over all lenghth to get accuracy / should i just push the bullet till it comes up snug on the powder then measure o.a.l then run it in my rifle and check my o.a.l to make sure it's not pushing against the riflings and moving my o.a.l./ this is a very long bullet please help me if you can thank you .
i've been loading 300 wm with imr 4064 208 gr amax @ 61.3 gr / i've been getting nice groups but i get a staggler moving my group from 3 inchs at 500yrds to a 5-6 inch group / i'm in the middle working up a load with h1000 to try to get more consistant groups but i don't know how far to seat this bullet it is packing the the powder so hard it's leaving a ring on the bullet /know i have to throw out some of the loads "i've tryed to seat the bullets just behind the rifleings with the old loads" but then the bullets don't fit in the clip, i can live with not putting the bullets in the clip if i know that its ok to go past the suggested over all lenghth to get accuracy / should i just push the bullet till it comes up snug on the powder then measure o.a.l then run it in my rifle and check my o.a.l to make sure it's not pushing against the riflings and moving my o.a.l./ this is a very long bullet please help me if you can thank you .
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
sorry i did'nt register first i wrote the anonamous post about trying to find a load for 208 gr amax and h1000 powder,
thanks
sorry i did'nt register first i wrote the anonamous post about trying to find a load for 208 gr amax and h1000 powder,
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
trying to get used to this post i'm making a mess of your page sorry agian
trying to get used to this post i'm making a mess of your page sorry agian
Re: Loads for .300WM-.300WSM
thanks for the reply but what about the stray bullets i'm shooting 5 shot groups , how much heat does it take to make a bullet stray at 500yrds 4-5inchs hot to the touch or do i need a temp gage on my barrel/i'm thinking it might possibly be that i'm canting my gun every once and a while so going to try and get a leveling device before i go out any anwsers are welcome / also why did my post get anwsered on a different page once again thanks alot someday i might even figure out this post
thanks for the reply but what about the stray bullets i'm shooting 5 shot groups , how much heat does it take to make a bullet stray at 500yrds 4-5inchs hot to the touch or do i need a temp gage on my barrel/i'm thinking it might possibly be that i'm canting my gun every once and a while so going to try and get a leveling device before i go out any anwsers are welcome / also why did my post get anwsered on a different page once again thanks alot someday i might even figure out this post
Re: Loads for .300WM--.300WSM
.300 Win Mag - GAP / 24" Rock / SRT Mag Shadow
Berger 210 VLD / fully prep'ed Win brass / Fed 215M / OAL 3.5" / 72.0 RE22 / 10 round average - 2916 FPS SD 12.1, ES 39 / 42.6 degrees / 90.6% RH. Sub 1/2 MOA load.
Redding Dies - headspace value setting (as determined by RCBS Precision Mic) = -.0041 / .331 bushing
Thanks to Chad - max with RE22 and 210 VLDs is 71.1
Thanks to Rob01 for set up infor
Good luck
.300 Win Mag - GAP / 24" Rock / SRT Mag Shadow
Berger 210 VLD / fully prep'ed Win brass / Fed 215M / OAL 3.5" / 72.0 RE22 / 10 round average - 2916 FPS SD 12.1, ES 39 / 42.6 degrees / 90.6% RH. Sub 1/2 MOA load.
Redding Dies - headspace value setting (as determined by RCBS Precision Mic) = -.0041 / .331 bushing
Thanks to Chad - max with RE22 and 210 VLDs is 71.1
Thanks to Rob01 for set up infor
Good luck
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