40 Dead at New Zealand Mosques

[Veer_G]

49 killed and dozens, including young children, injured in New Zealand mass shootings targeting mosques

Three people are in custody -- one of whom was charged with murder -- after at least one heavily-armed shooter mowed down Muslim worshippers at Friday prayer, massacring 49 people in two New Zealand mosques while broadcasting a horrific live stream of the terror attack.

www.foxnews.com

 

[AIAW]

First off - welcome back!


Snippet from the Brisbane Times:


There are believed to be 1.5 million guns in New Zealand, one for every three people. In Australia, there are 3.15 million guns - one for every eight people.

Owning or using a firearm in New Zealand does require a licence. Applicants must be over 16 and pass a background check by New Zealand Police to check whether they are a "fit and proper person".

A history of violence, relationships with criminals, a repeated involvement with drugs, or irresponsible consumption of alcohol are some of the reasons why someone might be denied a licence.

Carrying a gun is only permitted for those with a "lawful, proper, and sufficient purpose", such as hunting, pest control or sports shooting. Self-defence is not considered a reason to have a gun.

Two referees, including one spouse or parent, must be able to attest to an applicant's suitability to carry a gun in an interview with police. An arms officer from New Zealand Police will also pay a visit to their home to inspect security of the guns.

Applicants must also attend a gun safety lecture and pass a test, where they have to get 28 out of 30 answers right.

A firearms licence is valid for 10 years unless it is revoked or surrendered sooner. Gun owners can have their licence taken away if they are thought to be perpetrators of family violence.

Once approved, the licence allows a person to have or use a rifle or shotgun. Special permits are required for pistols, military-style semi-automatic weapons and other restricted categories such as machine guns and rocket launchers.



Well good fucking thing that criminals get "licenses" and "permits" before they go on a murdering spree. Wouldn't want to break any laws now would we...

Amazing that even on the other side of the planet people are hesitant to blame a person versus the instrument.

 

[Strykervet]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213173 Body count currently at 27. Didn't just shoot up one, shot up two.

Meanwhile in Australia, "someone" is manufacturing super cheap, super simple single stack mag full auto 9mm burp guns. They ain't pretty, they ain't accurate and they ain't expensive but they will dump 20rounds, the entire mag, in about one second. Because they're made from scratch, there aren't any records, and their big concern is that they'll start showing up with AP ammo (I mean it makes sense, they've apparently got the lathe...). Barrels are not rifled. Cops don't know who is making them, if they're made in Australia or imported, nothing. They intend on a long drawn out investigation sorta like how IED's are tracked.

Those two countries also have a strong national identity that we don't share. We're poised on the brink of civil war or totalitarian dictatorship, hard to tell which at times, but we sure as shit are not united. But an Australian is an Australian more or less, from what I've been told.

Now I don't get propaganda anymore, but considering you all do and nobody has mentioned this all day, I'm imagining the propagandists here are instead rehashing old Trump shit because this will not play well at all for their gun ban hysteria. 27 dead in two mass shootings in a country where firearms have been outlawed for how many years now? And a country the size of a state at that.

We've got a member on here who not too long ago stopped a guy after murdering a mother right in front of him. He stalked the motherfucker and wouldn't turn back. Didn't even make local news as far as I know. But I know he didn't do it for that and the thanks of the family for doing what he did was probably more than enough. Somehow, we're all the bad guys here.

 

[mike e]

Now 49 deceased sad day for my little country

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

I was surprised how in-effective the auto-shotgun was. That said, the man is a nuttcase. The music he listens to before committing the act is 100% chosen to display how indifferent he is to what he's about to do, and the way he strawls through the mosque equally points out that what he's doing "isnt a big deal"!

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

Guess your search button doesn't work!

 

[Strykervet]

I posted this too, didn't see yours. And yeah, welcome back, where 'ya been this time? Everytime you don't show up for a few days, it's like "where's Veer?" --don't be surprised if one day you don't find your own picture on a milk carton because a 'Hider jumped the gun missing a Veer post!

 

[Airw4ves]

Gun Laws aside, this is royally fucked. How this pos can do this without a care in the world is sickening. Wife and I just spent 2 months travelling NZ, and this is very shocking to see happen.
Sad day indeed

 

[Blue Sky Country]

Fuck, man...

To make an already bad situation even worse, now there will be extremists living all over the western world who will see this as a green light to carry out reprisal attacks against 'infidel' soft targets.

CARRY A GUN WHEREVER YOU GO. And keep your eyes and heads constantly moving and scanning for any possible threats. The next few weeks and months will be a PITA.

 

[Veer_G]

Guess your search button doesn't work!

I guess your daddy's condom was dysfunctional, too.

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

Arent you like dying or somehting?

 

[Alphatreedog]

Arent you like dying or somehting?

Wow you're still here huh ? Quite pathetic when your sole attempts at being relevant are being a douche on the internet . But then again I guess you miss Myspace .

 

[Veer_G]

Arent you like dying or somehting?

My friends know my condition. Let's just say that I might yet, by God"s grace, get to spit on a few graves.

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

Doing your best, i see

 

[Strykervet]

Guess your search button doesn't work!

Guessing the same for your critical thinking skills. Based on the times posted, chances are I didn't see his post since I would've hit backspace to return to the threads.

You know, I wouldn't have come off this way about what you said to me. No, what you said to Veer rubbed me wrong.

Arent you like dying or somehting?

Fuck you. What kind of shit is that for a THIRTY EIGHT YEAR OLD MAN to say? I promise you wouldn't be saying that to his face. Or mine.

But since you death wished one of my buddies on here, a long time contributing member and all around good and outspoken guy, I'll add this:

I'm just gonna assume the better part of you ran down the crack of your mother's ass and just leave it at that. After all, it's not your fault he didn't pull out fast enough. And I've been told it's cruel to pick on tards so I'm gonna stop now. It's cookie and milk time over there and I know your family doesn't wanna put up with the whining. God knows we don't.

(mic drop)

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Meanwhile in Australia, "someone" is manufacturing super cheap, super simple single stack mag full auto 9mm burp guns.

They must be an American at heart. Even a piece of 3/4" pipe & a few other pieces will allow you to move up. Then you have pistol chambered Bang sticks, that work well for gators, let alone other animals.
Even just a drill press an small welder will allow makeing most anything if you take your time an have basic skills. Glad to know there are folks on this rock that still think out of the box,...

 

[FS1]

I'm just gonna assume the better part of you ran down the crack of your mother's ass and just leave it at that. After all, it's not your fault he didn't pull out fast enough. And I've been told it's cruel to pick on tards so I'm gonna stop now. It's cookie and milk time over there and I know your family doesn't wanna put up with the whining. God knows we don't.

(mic drop)

The problem is after that semen was contaminated with ass...his momma squeegeed all of it back up her ass and into the Vag. His DNA is 12% turd.

 

[Clearlight]

Shooter streamed video from helmet/ headcam to You Tube , saw it before it was pulled . Very deranged
perp obviously , possibly part of some extremist group .

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

Video is still out there and easy to find, if one wanted too

 

[Veer_G]

 

[pmclaine]

While reading about this in Daily Mail saw a vid running in bottom corner with chyron that near a London Mosque 8 people had been hit by a motor vehicle.

Related, coordinated, old news?

Anyone else see anything.

and to be a dick......has AOC called for the banning of cars in response........well now upon reflection I guess she has.

 

[FS1]

If idiots are ever banned? The Dems are toast.

 

[Strykervet]

They must be an American at heart. Even a piece of 3/4" pipe & a few other pieces will allow you to move up. Then you have pistol chambered Bang sticks, that work well for gators, let alone other animals.
Even just a drill press an small welder will allow makeing most anything if you take your time an have basic skills. Glad to know there are folks on this rock that still think out of the box,...

Yeah, only problem is they seem to be turning up only at crime scenes. Nasty crimes. Definitely not responsible owners! They are thinking outside the box though. As for US, well, seriously considering a flame thrower at this point. Not regulated, not enough people have 'em to raise attention, too difficult to obtain for the average criminal so unlikely one will ever be used in a crime.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

The ones that are out there (none GI ) suck. You can make a good back pack one if you use a controlled/throttled chem mix for pressure. The draw back is once the mix starts do not stop the flow as pressure can get to 15K psi real quick. Use quality components, not a place to skimp on. I've seen one mounted on a 4 wheeler that looked like just a storage box until he lite it up. His used a pump on the engine an could shoot a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG way. Zippo on wheels,..

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

If idiots are ever banned? The Dems are toast.

The gunman was a Trump supporter and republican, so I guess if we banned political mass murderes, only democrats would be left?

Christchurch shooter 'launched attack to spark civil war in U.S.'

Brenton Tarrant from Grafton, New South Wales, Australia, claimed in his 74-page manifesto that he supported President Donald Trump as a 'symbol of renewed white identity'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[FS1]

The gunman was a Trump supporter and republican, so I guess if we banned killers, only democrats would be left?

Christchurch shooter 'launched attack to spark civil war in U.S.'

Brenton Tarrant from Grafton, New South Wales, Australia, claimed in his 74-page manifesto that he supported President Donald Trump as a 'symbol of renewed white identity'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

So I guess it was not a Dem that shot up a Congress baseball game or a concert in LV. How bout hate crimes like Smollet? Chicago, Baltimore I guess all those killers suddenly went Rep. You sir are a classless ignorant fool. JMHO

I feel safer when I am in a Red State than I do in my Blue home County.

 

[MtnCreek]

How sad. Not really.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Shooter streamed video from helmet/ headcam to You Tube , saw it before it was pulled . Very deranged
perp obviously , possibly part of some extremist group .

Deranged and psycho in some manner. It is fine to be passionate about something... or believe in a cause. Normal even. But only the mentally retarded (broken in some form) turn that into shooting up innocent crowds and flying planes into buildings. It is not the cause, it is the criminally- insane individual who pursues it to an insane outcome.

We keep saying it... the problem is not weapons, whether cars, airliners or illegal AKs that look like they have been painted with a Liquid Paper dauber... the problem is dealing with the deranged mental midgets who use them for evil.

But, that sentiment is a broken record... so there you go.

Hope the Sierra storm down under is not going to take more innocents with it. Including the honest gun- owning citizens.

Sirhr

 

[Dougie308]

Not to be callous, but frankly I am surprised this hasn’t happened sooner. This kettle has been brewing for for some time.

 

[Kristian_Jensen]

You sir are a classless ignorant fool. JMHO

No, just throwing your logic back at ya.

Fact is, neither side is doing great and that "sides" are the real issue instead of looking at every "problem" based on facts.

They might have immigration problems in New Zealand (i dont know) but the shooter obviously felt the problem was so big that he had to kill in order to stop it, instead of looking at the statistics and facts. We see it over and over again. Things are not black and white.

Easy access to weapons IS a PART of the problem but it is not the problem itself. Stupidity and ignorance IS a PART of the problem as well, and so are politics and so on.

Instead of pointing fingers at the opposite side you might want to start thinking. You threw the rock, I simply returned it.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

They must be an American at heart. Even a piece of 3/4" pipe & a few other pieces will allow you to move up. Then you have pistol chambered Bang sticks, that work well for gators, let alone other animals.
Even just a drill press an small welder will allow makeing most anything if you take your time an have basic skills. Glad to know there are folks on this rock that still think out of the box,...

A guy named PA Luty had released on the Internet many years ago a complete plan set for a basic blowback action, open bolt 9mm submachine gun built with just hardware store parts. Caused quite a stir too, this guy. The statists were running around freaked out of their minds.

Besides single shot zipguns and pipe shotguns, open bolt SMG's are amongst the most simplest of firearms designs. And just like the Australian example, the Luty gun is not rifled either. No need. Smoothbores within 100 yards can be reasonably accurate, as Revolutionary War soldiers from both sides found out.

If old men and young boys from herding villages in Khyber Pass can be building high quality copies of Glocks, AR's and Browning Hi-Power's, the amount and quality of stuff that can be made by the trade-school trained American machinist in a state of the art tool shop will be unimaginable. Innovation and invention is what allowed human beings to succeed as a species. This spirit cannot and will not be quenched by anyone.

 

[pmclaine]

No, just throwing your logic back at ya.

Fact is, neither side is doing great and that "sides" are the real issue instead of looking at every "problem" based on facts.

They might have immigration problems in New Zealand (i dont know) but the shooter obviously felt the problem was so big that he had to kill in order to stop it, instead of looking at the statistics and facts. We see it over and over again. Things are not black and white.

Easy access to weapons IS a PART of the problem but it is not the problem itself. Stupidity and ignorance IS a PART of the problem as well, and so are politics and so on.

Instead of pointing fingers at the opposite side you might want to start thinking. You threw the rock, I simply returned it.

It was an Aussie in NZ claiming to be a supporter of Trump that complied with all NZ laws apparently. He is also a white supremacist inspired by Candace Owens.

What crazy decides to do should have no bearing on my freedom.

This is so fucked up in so many ways yet Denmark has it all figured out.

You know what you can do with your Tulips?

 

[JimLee]

I put the stupid Denmark queer on ignore. Hopefully the mods give him a permanent vacation. He's not here to support shooting, he's just some socialist fucking troll.

 

[pmclaine]

I put the stupid Denmark queer on ignore. Hopefully the mods give him a permanent vacation. He's not here to support shooting, he's just some socialist fucking troll.

Geert Wilders he is not.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I find the reactions of some of our elected leaders and talking heads to events in the last 18 hours a bit... telling.

"The killing of innocents at a Mosque in New Zealand is an incredible tragedy perpetrated against innocent Muslims by a right-wing Xenophobic monster... who may be connected to a larger group that must be rooted out."

The first part is. And tragic, indeed. An if the second part is true... and there is a larger group that is on the verge of committing heinous crimes against innocents... fair enough.

But on to part deux...

"The firing of Iranian-made missiles into Tel Aviv and aimed at innocents living in their city is something they deserved because they oppress the peaceful and hopeless Palestinians and so it is natural that the Palestinians would lash out to secure their freedom and shining path forward. The Israelies deserve it."

Yeah... I guess that's one way of spinning it.

I wrote the quotes... but they are a mish-mash of the sentiments that I have heard in the last 18 hours.... from the usual double-tongues.

Both incidents need not happen. But they happen because people tilt over the edge to the point that they think it's sane to attack civilians and unarmed innocents in order to make their political points. That is never right. It is insane. But not in the eyes of folks who are happy to use the unsane to forward their agendas... instead of locking them up.

But, there ya go. If you speak the truth these days, you are an extremist to someone. And now that someone seems to have a license to kill, perhaps by remote control. And as long as they are on the 'right' side of the editorial-writers and the talking heads, it won't stop.

Sirhr

 

[ArmyJerry]

meh, buy more ammo, NZ and Muslims dying are not my concern... if it didn't happen here i frankly dont give a fuck. Brain cells better spent preparing for our own coming break apart.

 

[pmclaine]

I find the reactions of some of our elected leaders and talking heads to events in the last 18 hours a bit... telling.

"The killing of innocents at a Mosque in New Zealand is an incredible tragedy perpetrated against innocent Muslims by a right-wing Xenophobic monster... who may be connected to a larger group that must be rooted out."

The first part is. And tragic, indeed. An if the second part is true... and there is a larger group that is on the verge of committing heinous crimes against innocents... fair enough.

But on to part deux...

"The firing of Iranian-made missiles into Tel Aviv and aimed at innocents living in their city is something they deserved because they oppress the peaceful and hopeless Palestinians and so it is natural that the Palestinians would lash out to secure their freedom and shining path forward. The Israelies deserve it."

Yeah... I guess that's one way of spinning it.

I wrote the quotes... but they are a mish-mash of the sentiments that I have heard in the last 18 hours.... from the usual double-tongues.

Both incidents need not happen. But they happen because people tilt over the edge to the point that they think it's sane to attack civilians and unarmed innocents in order to make their political points. That is never right. It is insane. But not in the eyes of folks who are happy to use the unsane to forward their agendas... instead of locking them up.

But, there ya go. If you speak the truth these days, you are an extremist to someone. And now that someone seems to have a license to kill, perhaps by remote control. And as long as they are on the 'right' side of the editorial-writers and the talking heads, it won't stop.

Sirhr

Schloss Nitrocellulose is not too far away.

Save me a space.

Promise Ill be an add not a detract.

Just give me a sector of fire and Ill bring my own unit of fire.

 

[Strykervet]

I put the stupid Denmark queer on ignore. Hopefully the mods give him a permanent vacation. He's not here to support shooting, he's just some socialist fucking troll.

Yeah, apparently Veer and I were making similar posts around the same time; I was a bit later because I probably went back from whatever page I was on and didn't see the updates. Anyway, he comes in there slinging shit about using search functions and death wishing Veer. Fuck him.

 

[FF05]

The perception that semi-autos are banned in Australia is completely false and spread by the media. They may be heavily restricted, but not unobtainable, I have an A15 and AR10.

New Zealand's gun laws are fairly relaxed compared to Australia. Most New Zealand gunshops stock semi-autos and suppressor's available on a hunting license.

The fall out of this shooting will no doubt trigger the anti-gunners and leftist politicians in both countries. More than likely they'll succeed in restricting firearms further.

 

[pmclaine]

I thought I was pretty connected but never heard of Candace Owens.....is she some sort of firebrand calling for these type of shootings?

How is a white supremecist claiming her as his inspiration.

Lots of wild, scattered inconsistencies on this shit.

Kind of makes me think of this thread I posted....

https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...-some-news-to-bury-this.6932958/#post-7606265

Anyone in the media talking about Bruce Ohrs testimony?

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Arent you like dying or somehting?

We're all on our way out. You can't be first but you can be next. Act accordingly.

 

[EddieNFL]

Gun Laws aside, this is royally fucked. How this pos can do this without a care in the world is sickening.

Maybe he read the koran.

 

[PPB]

My friends know my condition. Let's just say that I might yet, by God"s grace, get to spit on a few graves.

Its the big one Elizabeth. I may be off site for quite some time. I had a ( insert drama here). 400 posts later its still......




annnnnnd hes back

 

[MtnCreek]

I thought I was pretty connected but never heard of Candace Owens.....is she some sort of firebrand calling for these type of shootings?

How is a white supremecist claiming her as his inspiration.

Lots of wild, scattered inconsistencies on this shit.

Kind of makes me think of this thread I posted....

https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...-some-news-to-bury-this.6932958/#post-7606265

Anyone in the media talking about Bruce Ohrs testimony?

This current story may drop from the headlines soon. It is the Ides of March.

 

[pmclaine]

This current story may drop from the headlines soon. It is the Ides of March.

Beware.

Et Tu Mitt?

Trump issues ominous warning that he has support of cops, military

'So here's the thing—it's so terrible what's happening,' Trump told Breitbart News in an Oval Office interview published on Thursday, when asked about Democrats' hardball tactics.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[MtnCreek]

@PPB Shouldn't you be busy running a scam or eating a dick.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

Gun Laws aside, this is royally fucked. How this pos can do this without a care in the world is sickening. Wife and I just spent 2 months travelling NZ, and this is very shocking to see happen.
Sad day indeed

I am not that partial to conspiracy theories, but what if this "POS" was actually just the right hand trigger finger being commanded by a bigger POS above him and even a bigger one above that.

Socialist Venezuela is on the verge of a total train wreck. Socialism is collapsing even in hardline "Best Korea", with western corporations and private enterprise ready to bloom full force. Trump is still kicking ass big time. Gun control about to be rolled back in Brazil.

The leftist statist shit-stirrers have gotten more vocal and more extreme in the past 12 months than any other time. With their "examples" failing, they are bound to get desperate.

Once again, not doing tin-foil stuff here. Just analyzing. Shit is not adding up.........Or is it adding up too perfectly? Just like a multimillionaire with 30+ pricy semiauto rifles decide to wipe out a whole group of concert-goers, dead himself before cops even breach the door, and the FBI basically says: "We can't find shit, sorry guys..."

The government should realize that people are not stupid.

 

[_Windrider_]

 

[pmclaine]

I am not that partial to conspiracy theories, but what if this "POS" was actually just the right hand trigger finger being commanded by a bigger POS above him and even a bigger one above that.

Socialist Venezuela is on the verge of a total train wreck. Socialism is collapsing even in hardline "Best Korea", with western corporations and private enterprise ready to bloom full force. Trump is still kicking ass big time. Gun control about to be rolled back in Brazil.

The leftist statist shit-stirrers have gotten more vocal and more extreme in the past 12 months than any other time. With their "examples" failing, they are bound to get desperate.

Once again, not doing tin-foil stuff here. Just analyzing. Shit is not adding up.........Or is it adding up too perfectly? Just like a multimillionaire with 30+ pricy semiauto rifles decide to wipe out a whole group of concert-goers, dead himself before cops even breach the door, and the FBI basically says: "We can't find shit, sorry guys..."

The government should realize that people are not stupid.

Why isnt this getting coverage in the main stream...

Report: Good Guy with Gun Chased New Zealand Mosque Shooters

Multiple mosques were targeted during attacks in New Zealand Friday, and an armed man reportedly fired back at the shooters in Christchurch.

www.breitbart.com

 

[pmclaine]

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