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Anybody else liking R17 ? Im getting really good speed and accuracy with 42gr 105 Berger vld, average 3210 no pressure signs 8 twist 24” Carbon proof. Barrel only has about 60 rounds down the tube.
Plan on shooting the Berger 105BT and the 87vmax do I need to get a different seating stem if I have the Redding type S micrometer seating die for either of those bullets?
What speeds should I be shooting for with the 105BT out of a 1/8 22”?
Plan on shooting the Berger 105BT and the 87vmax do I need to get a different seating stem if I have the Redding type S micrometer seating die for either of those bullets?
What speeds should I be shooting for with the 105BT out of a 1/8 22”?
Ahh hunting.. should be a death-laser for that.I know its a price for speed but I'm ok with that. We dont shoot long strings it will get a little weekend work here and there and be a whitetail hunting rig. It should last a little while.
Check Rifleshooter dot com. Search for 6mm Creedmoor load data. I have tried several loads out of my RPR and they shoot very close to what he's published. Of course, work up and watch for pressure signs.Anybody have any quick data for me? Need to get a load built for a comp coming up real quick. Based on that new Hornady video it should be pretty easy right!?
22” 1/8 twist. Lapua brass, 105 Berger BT, H4350 and CCI450
2950 is where most guys run the 6cm in comps with heavy bullets. Plus you get some extra barrel life, and hopefully the tune stays together longer. Nothing wrong with that. My 6gt will run 2950 with 115s but I run 2850, my bra will do 2940 with 105s but I run 2850. Don't sweat it!View attachment 8214030
I just confirmed a new load using 41gr N555 with 110 A-Tips out of a 26” barrel. It was slightly disappointing that this was on the low end of the powder range I’ve been testing for this combo, but I’d rather lose 120fps for this kind of consistency.
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I just confirmed a new load using 41gr N555 with 110 A-Tips out of a 26” barrel. It was slightly disappointing that this was on the low end of the powder range I’ve been testing for this combo, but I’d rather lose 120fps for this kind of consistency.
2950 is where most guys run the 6cm in comps with heavy bullets. Plus you get some extra barrel life, and hopefully the tune stays together longer. Nothing wrong with that. My 6gt will run 2950 with 115s but I run 2850, my bra will do 2940 with 105s but I run 2850. Don't sweat it!
Dogtown, this is very similar to the results I get using 41.0 grains of N555 with Berger 109 LRHT bullets. Very low SD and 1/2 MOA accuracy. Out of my 26" X-Caliber barrel, I get 2963 fps, using Peterson LRP brass and Federal 210M primers. I initially wanted to push it harder, but I agree with @CK1.0, that it's just not worth it.View attachment 8214030
I just confirmed a new load using 41gr N555 with 110 A-Tips out of a 26” barrel. It was slightly disappointing that this was on the low end of the powder range I’ve been testing for this combo, but I’d rather lose 120fps for this kind of consistency.
I've been running 110s and 115s around 2900 out of a 6 Creed for years now (with H4831sc). Super consistent and really decent barrel life. I pull the barrels from match use around 2000 rounds but all of them have kept shooting great to 2500 and past.I agree. The guys who are still trying to get as much speed as they possibly can before they hit pressure are just killing their barrels prematurely for no good reason.
I've throttled back to a leisurely ~2900fps in my 6CM (and ~2800 in my 6GT), and have never shot better.
IMO seeing more and getting more feedback off impacts/misses far outweighs the tenth of a click or so in trajectory/wind one gives up... not to mention getting a lot more mileage out of a barrel before it's toast.
I ended up using 43.5 grains of staball 6.5 and 112 barnes match burners.With a 108bt Berger, in Lapua brass, I initially started at 40 and went to 43.8, for pressure. I then narrowed it and went from 41.9 - 43.7 for POI testing. I settled on 42.65gr of 6.5Staball and it's good. You should be good to go starting at 40.0
40.6 - 40.8 of either RL 16 or H-4350. Adjust seating depth accordingly.Anyone worked up the 106gr a-tips?
I shoot the same charge but in Hornady brass to get rid of it. I’m running 3075 but it’s accurateH4350-40.5g
BSD-2.146
Lapua SRP brass
205M primer
115g Berger VLD
Average FPS-3110
Yes sir. I shot mine again today testing some BSD and have about 450rds down the tube now. It’s speeding up a little. Today I averaged 3123 over 35rds shot. It’s still hammering though. Shot this .953 at 300yds.I shoot the same charge but in Hornady brass to get rid of it. I’m running 3075 but it’s accurate
The Hornady 105 BTHP has been the most available from the places I look. You can almost always find them somewhere online. The BC isnt as high as many, but I have had good precision from 6 Creed and Dasher. The reasonable price is a plus also.Getting back into a 6mm and need to decide on a bullet. I'm tired of playing whack a mole on components, so looking for some advice on a bullet in the 105-110 range that is 'usually' in stock? I generally shoot Berger LRHT in my other calibers, but they are hard to come by. Seems that the 105 HT and the 108 BT target are in stock many places. What bullet do you guys like in that range that is generally available? Application is target and some matches.
.28 per round is very persuasive. Believe I will give the 112 MBs a try, thanks gentlemen. SAAMI freebore .183 ok with those?
Sierra 107smk has been the most readily available of bullets that's are extremely consistent within their lot #s. New 112 Barnes are much more consistent than when they first produced them. Anything 6mm Berger hybrid is extremely tough to find on a shelf, 105 109 108elite. The 108bt Berger is probably one the best accuracy bullets that can be had off the shelf, they shoot amazingly but the BC is lacking compared to previously mentioned. The 109 eldm is also a very good bullet, bc of around 288 in my testing to 1200y. 115 dtacs are also available, but they need a lot of freebore to not be crowding powder space depending on your cartridge choice. I shoot 115s in my 6gt, they shoot really well from 2820-2850. 6bra I shoot 109s and 105s. The womans gt shoots 107smk, my 6cm hunting setup is 108 elite hunters, and recently did a 24" hunting 6gt with 112mb at 2910 and they're shooting very well. I have spent a ton of money on 6mm bullets and have 2+ thousand of most varieties on the shelf, so it's like get a barrel, pick the bullet, and shoot that stock till the pipe is gone. It seems now 6.5mm bullets are easier to get than 6mm, wasn't that way 5 years ago, but it sure is now!Getting back into a 6mm and need to decide on a bullet. I'm tired of playing whack a mole on components, so looking for some advice on a bullet in the 105-110 range that is 'usually' in stock? I generally shoot Berger LRHT in my other calibers, but they are hard to come by. Seems that the 105 HT and the 108 BT target are in stock many places. What bullet do you guys like in that range that is generally available? Application is target and some matches.
The 108 bthp is a great bullet. I've shot it for a few years now and I have nothing but great results with it.Getting back into a 6mm and need to decide on a bullet. I'm tired of playing whack a mole on components, so looking for some advice on a bullet in the 105-110 range that is 'usually' in stock? I generally shoot Berger LRHT in my other calibers, but they are hard to come by. Seems that the 105 HT and the 108 BT target are in stock many places. What bullet do you guys like in that range that is generally available? Application is target and some matches.
.28 per round is very persuasive. Believe I will give the 112 MBs a try, thanks gentlemen. SAAMI freebore .183 ok with those?
The match chamber FB is .183 , What is the FB on the standard 6CM , I read or say a print of a reamer that said the FB was .104 ?
Is that correct ?
That is what Pacific Tool list on their MATCH reamer, on their "standard" reamer they list .109SAAMI chamber drawing puts it at 183.
Found the problem.… Pacific Tool ….
I wouldn't trust ANYTHING from PTG. I mean nothing!That is what Pacific Tool list on their MATCH reamer, on their "standard" reamer they list .109
I've still got a few thousand 112MBs which I'll be continuing to use in 6CM, but will be moving to the Hornady 105BTHP for my 6GT (since the 105s are shorter and will work better with the stock 6GT SAAMI freebore). I've shot a few hundred of them and they also seem to be great (and not just for the money).
I just measured both and the 112s are a little longer in length, but have a shorter base to Ogive. 112 is .685” and the 105 .720”.
You will have no problems running the 112s in the GT. I ran DTACs and they are longer and a lot more BTO.