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Anyone know the exact weight of the ATX hinge?
5.2oz for us knuckledraggers in the imperial system, fn apes!
Hinge also only adds ~1oz (25g), so not much downside.5.2oz for us knuckledraggers in the imperial system, fn apes!
Atleast you didn't say 5 1/5oz.5.2oz for us knuckledraggers in the imperial system, fn apes!
Nice - I stripped one of the screws trying to take the low action rail off trying to put the high rail on....what kind of apes put those on?Got my hinge and taller mount. Now if the ATF would get moving on my can I'd be set.
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I think the screw heads are soft and loose. I bet it didn't even take much force to strip. On advise of this thread I didn't even bother with the hex heads and tapped a T15 bit into the hex head and then they backed out without any issue.Nice - I stripped one of the screws trying to take the low action rail off trying to put the high rail on....what kind of apes put those on?
Did you machine up an adapter to use the Q stock? That looks fantastic.
This is someone else’s rifle Il let him speak upDid you machine up an adapter to use the Q stock? That looks fantastic.
This is with the high rail and a short top bridge. I left the bag rider on the stock. It’s about 1.6 oz so not much to it.Did you machine up an adapter to use the Q stock? That looks fantastic.
I didn’t think about switching the rail. I had a spuhr but it was 1.18 and barely cleared the bridge so i grabbed a arc mount in 1.5 off the px. I couldn't stomach 500 bucks for another spuhr.Nice - I stripped one of the screws trying to take the low action rail off trying to put the high rail on....what kind of apes put those on?
Unfortunately no. It doesn’t even come close. If you leave the bolt open yes.Nice! Could you have made it fold right and still go over the bolt handle?
saga continues, a reverse cutting screw extractor broke.. Still need to get this one out. Probably drill time...I think the screw heads are soft and loose. I bet it didn't even take much force to strip. On advise of this thread I didn't even bother with the hex heads and tapped a T15 bit into the hex head and then they backed out without any issue.
Heat is also your friend. The combo of pot metal screws, metric hex and the threadlocker, euates to stripped screws. I stripped the first one, but removed after tapping a T15 torx into it. Last screws I heated with small butane torch, tapped the T15 into and they came out pretty easily.saga continues, a reverse cutting screw extractor broke.. Still need to get this one out. Probably drill time...
Heat is also your friend. The combo of pot metal screws, metric hex and the threadlocker, euates to stripped screws. I stripped the first one, but removed after tapping a T15 torx into it. Last screws I heated with small butane torch, tapped the T15 into and they came out pretty easily.
Wasn't able to move it, best I got was being able to grind the stump of the extractor down flush to the screw head. Time for a machinist/gunsmith. Anyone have a good recommendation for someone in Northern Virginia?Heat is also your friend. The combo of pot metal screws, metric hex and the threadlocker, euates to stripped screws. I stripped the first one, but removed after tapping a T15 torx into it. Last screws I heated with small butane torch, tapped the T15 into and they came out pretty easily.
Bugholes isn’t that farWasn't able to move it, best I got was being able to grind the stump of the extractor down flush to the screw head. Time for a machinist/gunsmith. Anyone have a good recommendation for someone in Northern Virginia?
Northern Virginia Gunworks.Wasn't able to move it, best I got was being able to grind the stump of the extractor down flush to the screw head. Time for a machinist/gunsmith. Anyone have a good recommendation for someone in Northern Virginia?
you and everyone else.Are the days of the $4250 AT- X finished? I was out of work a couple months ago when they were in stock at Mile High and so I couldn't swing the purchase. Now that I can afford it it appears they are out of stock. If anyone has a line on a black or tan in 6.5 Creed please shoot me a pm.
I think there may be one remaining AT-X on the exchange forum, but you'll have to dig back a month or two - it had no barrel and some dings on the side and was around $3600.Are the days of the $4250 AT- X finished? I was out of work a couple months ago when they were in stock at Mile High and so I couldn't swing the purchase. Now that I can afford it it appears they are out of stock. If anyone has a line on a black or tan in 6.5 Creed please shoot me a pm.
Wait for the AT-XC's to start shipping and buy a used one. I will likely sell mine for somewhere in that price range once I have the new AT-XC.Are the days of the $4250 AT- X finished? I was out of work a couple months ago when they were in stock at Mile High and so I couldn't swing the purchase. Now that I can afford it it appears they are out of stock. If anyone has a line on a black or tan in 6.5 Creed please shoot me a pm.
I'm genuinely curious why you'd dump your AT-X for the AT-XC.Wait for the AT-XC's to start shipping and buy a used one. I will likely sell mine for somewhere in that price range once I have the new AT-XC.
I'm willing to bet if the bolt lift is noticeably lighter lots of AT-X owners will be dumping them for the AT-XC. Better to sell it before the market dips a lot. AIs have been overpriced for the feature set for a long time so paying over $2k more for hundreds of dollars worth of accessories and a lighter bolt lift would be par for the course for a typical AI owner.I'm genuinely curious why you'd dump your AT-X for the AT-XC.
What are you seeing that makes you think it would be a worthwhile upgrade?
I'm willing to bet if the bolt lift is noticeably lighter lots of AT-X owners will be dumping them for the AT-XC. Better to sell it before the market dips a lot. AIs have been overpriced for the feature set for a long time so paying over $2k more for hundreds of dollars worth of accessories and a lighter bolt lift would be par for the course for a typical AI owner.
How bad do you think the fire sale dumping will be? labradar bad?I'm willing to bet if the bolt lift is noticeably lighter lots of AT-X owners will be dumping them for the AT-XC. Better to sell it before the market dips a lot. AIs have been overpriced for the feature set for a long time so paying over $2k more for hundreds of dollars worth of accessories and a lighter bolt lift would be par for the course for a typical AI owner.
LOL sadly you're right. I bought mine last summer for $4300. I can't imagine selling this and paying the difference for the new version.
Do we even know how much lighter the new bolt lift will be?
I wonder if AI would be able to update current bolts in use...
I'm willing to bet if the bolt lift is noticeably lighter lots of AT-X owners will be dumping them for the AT-XC. Better to sell it before the market dips a lot. AIs have been overpriced for the feature set for a long time so paying over $2k more for hundreds of dollars worth of accessories and a lighter bolt lift would be par for the course for a typical AI owner.
lol, noooo.... Labradar only survived as long as it did because it was the only well-established commercial/affordable radar chrono available. Very different situation. Just a guess but I think a good condition AT-X will hover around $3.5-4K with little accessories or $4K or more with lots of accessories. Could be less but I doubt it will be more because once a few used AT-XCs hit the market the AT-X will take another hit. I don't think it will be long before there are used AT-XCs on the market either since it didn't take long at all for used AT-Xs to hit the market after it's release.How bad do you think the fire sale dumping will be? labradar bad?
So you can't tell a difference between a new(ish) AT-X and a new(ish) AXSR? I say new(ish) for both because it's hard to know how well broken in a used rifle is.
you can tell a little bit but it isn’t huge. I don’t think anyone that has an ATX will say the new C is night and day different. And honestly I’m not sure it’ll be anything noticeable over a well broken in ATX.So you can't tell a difference between a new(ish) AT-X and a new(ish) AXSR? I say new(ish) for both because it's hard to know how well broken in a used rifle is.
This is funny because the only people I see saying this is current AT-X owners hoping they don't take a huge lose when they next best thing comes out. They might not dip in price a lot but to say they will increase in price is funny for sure. There has been and still are AT-Xs around for $4kish and $3.5ish without a barrel. I agree some new AT-X owners won't wanna spend $6.5-7K but AI Loyalists have been and will continue to pay that without question.Used ATX values will stay where they are or even increase slightly because no one wants to pay the $7k+ for a new one. Book it.
This is funny because the only people I see saying this is current AT-X owners hoping they don't take a huge lose when they next best thing comes out. They might not dip in price a lot but to say they will increase in price is funny for sure. There has been and still are AT-Xs around for $4kish and $3.5ish without a barrel. I agree new AT-X owners won't wanna spend $6.5-7K but AI Loyalists have been and will continue to pay that without question.
Not like it's a different rifle... The AT-XC is the AT-X with minor "improvements" and they are making you buy the accessories. Well it will be interesting to see which way it goes. No one likes the new price but I still think there will be plenty of people willing to pay it. Leupold and NF scopes win matches and kill animals but people still pay for ZCO and TT because people are willing to pay a lot for little improvements.It’s just supply and demand. Simple economics.
New one comes out, no one likes the new price. Supply is there but the demand is not. Sure some agencies and AI purists will pay the money but no one is going to be banging down the door for them considering the used market for current gen ATXs or what you can build a full custom for at this point.
Problem is that the old ATX will no longer be made. Supply dries up but the demand does not… what do you think happens to the price? Just look at ATs and it will tell you all you need to know.
Didn’t say it would be a significant hike but to see the market stabilize where it is currently or end up at $4k plus wouldn’t be the least bit surprising.
Industry professionals rotate through gear...because that's their job
To know and show the latest stuff...
As a "go and show", it's usable life is probably 2-4 years,
and then its replaced with another conversation starter...
The working life of an AI to a .mil or .gov is probably 10-20 years,
civilians are gonna be in-between (if not all over the place...)
Jacob Bynum had/has an AW with 6 digits through the action...hands down one of the smoothest bolts I've ever touched, thanks to that much usage.My used AX308 is much lighter bolt lift and also smoother then my AXSR and AT-X.