Accuracy International AT-X

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So I just purchased an elite sand off Gunjoker last night. I've got a few goodies in my cart at Europtic, what are the essentials needed? Do I need a 20moa rail or is it included? Should be 5k dollar rig. I want a folder, cant find one. Prob gonna grab some internal and external weights for prs, need recommendations on a bag rider. Also going to install a zco420, sounds like I neee 1.5" rings/mount. Does someone make tbumb wheel screws to use instead the Allen heads for cheek/butt adjustment?
 
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4O6shootist said:
So I just purchased an elite sand off Gunjoker last night. I've got a few goodies in my cart at Europtic, what are the essentials needed? Do I need a 20moa rail or is it included? Should be 5k dollar rig. I want a folder, cant find one. Prob gonna grab some internal and external weights for prs, need recommendations on a bag rider. Also going to install a zco420, sounds like I neee 1.5" rings/mount. Does someone make tbumb wheel screws to use instead the Allen heads for cheek/butt adjustment?
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Factory installed rail is 20MOA.
Hinge from Mile High or Eurooptic
Sphur mount from Mile High or Eurooptic
 
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wcberry said:
Factory installed rail is 20MOA.
Hinge from Mile High or Eurooptic
Sphur mount from Mile High or Eurooptic
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Best bet for hinges and weights is to back order from one of the vendors. Also Saw Tooth makes external weights and might be in stock.

1.5" is a comfortable height for me and i wouldn't want lower. Bore and stock are nice and inline and the bolt can be removed without folding. I'd guess with a ZCO 420 1.35" would work without a bridge and maybe with a bridge if your concerned about scope height.

There was some talk of aftermarket thumb screws in this thread and I'm not sure if anyone testing them stuck with them. I'm sticking with the Allen screws because once the stock is setup once I don't need to change the adjustments since no one else uses the rifle other than me. If your shooting with family etc that might be a different for you.
 
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The last post is funny :).

I am running an ATX now, ran AT, AX SA and had an AXSR in the shop. Regarding bolts - don't get wrapped around the axle about it.

Some of my observations over the years...

1. 90 degree bolts seem to be lighter to lift than 60 degree bolts
2. For the most part they are all doing the same work over whatever distance (compressing a spring) so the shorter distance is more work (ie harder lift).
3. Many of the custom remington 700 actions are more optimized for competition shooters and are focused on smooth lift, smoother manipulation but come at the cost of function under some circumstances (maybe dirty conditions, ammo variablility - say hard primers, different trigger interactions etc).
4. Factory rifles are built and tested as a system, and its on the manufacturer to make sure things work to their use cases. Custom actions are not, and its on the gunsmith to make sure all the parts work togather to meet the shooter requirements.

My decision to shoot the ATX is based on wanting to know my rifle will always go bang, and if I have a slightly heavier, or less smooth bolt lift then that is a trade off I am willing to make to avoid safety problems and spare myself the work of making the combination of components always work well.

The ATX has a chassis that is very similar to most that custom actions are running, so that took away one of the large negatives for me running an AI. The bolt manipulation is not much of a concern for me, and isn't the reason I am not placing first at a match.

Finally - there is no best rifle. They all come with compromises, and different people have different use cases they want to achieve - so the choice you make is a balance against the benefits and compromises a manufacturer is making.
 
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deersniper said:
Y’all made the hinge install sound a lot more complicated that it is.

Don’t know why they sent 5 extra screws tho ?

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Well when the screws don’t come stripped from the factory I’d imagine it’s a pretty easy install lol. I will say though AI was quick to ship me screws…that were the incorrect size. Luckily my gunsmith had one that worked
 
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I have read probably 20 pages of this thread, does a guy have to run the ax/at-x mags in these rifles or can I use the few aw mags already in hand? They're 40$ more than the already expensive aw's. But they look like you can run an extension on them? Idk, I'm totally new to AI, my atx will be at my ffl on Monday.
 
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4O6shootist said:
I have read probably 20 pages of this thread, does a guy have to run the ax/at-x mags in these rifles or can I use the few aw mags already in hand? They're 40$ more than the already expensive aw's. But they look like you can run an extension on them? Idk, I'm totally new to AI, my atx will be at my ffl on Monday.
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Have both, use both. It may just be my mind playing tricks on me, but the AW seems to be better.
 
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Fixed the issue with my ATX not folding with the 2 round holder in place...

I trimmed off one of the flush cups that was on the inside of the folder, that made enough clearance for the folder to close in place over the 2 round holder
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Hennig said:
I agree with this. I was expecting a nice "Sniper Rifle", not a racegun, and its what I got when I bought my AX. I was always doubtful of the "super light action, feels like a custom" claim that I continuously saw thrown around, and my assumptions were correct.

I have an Archimedes, Mausingfield, Nucleus, Deadline2 and BadgerM2013 in the safe currently. Its feels very similar to the notoriously heavy Badger lift (which is still one of my fav rifles btw), the other customs are noticeably nicer in regard to bolt feel.
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You know it's a heavy bolt lift when the Ultimatum Deadline is lighter :oops:
 
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Hennig said:
Just super quick and rough using a trigger gauge.

M2013 with TT Special - 8lb
AIAX - 6.8lb
Deadline2 LA with Rifle Basix - 5lb
R700/Archimedes with TT Specials- 4lb
Mausingfield with TT Diamond- 3.5lb
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Thanks for that. I had a m2008 badger that was 9.5lbs using a Lyman digital gauge. Would be nice to get a ballpark for an Impact, Defiance and a Zeus to compare.
 
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1stShot said:
Just curious but why would people pay 5k for an AI ATX rifle that gets 1 moa? Is it because of the name? Easy barrel swaps?

What barrel do they come with? For 5k+ I would expect them to have top of the line ones.
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Bartlien

I’m not even a good shot
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Hell look what a button rifled pva barrel is capable of

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1stShot said:
Just curious but why would people pay 5k for an AI ATX rifle that gets 1 moa?
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I bought an AI atx because I could. I put a ZCO on top, because I could. If a person wants something, and can swing it financially, who cares. If it's not a half minute gun, I'll be a little disappointed. I will likely never shoot factory ammo since I just acquired 400x pcs alpha ocd srp brass. It'll get a steady diet of 144 hybrids for match shooting and 142smk for practice/target. I have never had a custom barrel not shoot 1/3 moa or better after proper load development on a quality action. If you want to shoot factory ammo, yes you can definitely build a rifle a lot cheaper that will shoot as good maybe better. Hand loads I'm sure a good custom fit barrel to a quality action will sholt to same potntial as an AI for cheaper. I have currently or in past owned customs built on terminus, impact, kelbly, Mesa Precision, lone peak, tikka, bat, zermatt and ARC action. Still own most but sold all the titanium mesa/lone peaks. They all shoot with a good barrel and chamber job. Prices for a manners tcs, impact, bartlein, diamond/tac sport, cerakote, you're in the 4500$ ballpark. Paid 4690 for my atx. I don't feel like I paid too much if it shots half moa out the box.
 
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1stShot said:
Just curious but why would people pay 5k for an AI ATX rifle that gets 1 moa? Is it because of the name? Easy barrel swaps?

What barrel do they come with? For 5k+ I would expect them to have top of the line ones.
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Although I have had issues that needed warranty work to fix, I would say my AI's average closer to 1/2" overall. That's about as good as I can shoot off a bipod so they may shoot better, but I wouldn't be able to realize the potential.

I don't have a AT-X yet, but I will as soon as the quick adjustable buttstock starts shipping.
 
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1stShot said:
Just curious but why would people pay 5k for an AI ATX rifle that gets 1 moa? Is it because of the name? Easy barrel swaps?

What barrel do they come with? For 5k+ I would expect them to have top of the line ones.
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I was in Huntsville all week so I'm late to the party, but I have three AIs (short and long actions in differing calibers) and all have shot consistently under 1MOA out of the box and are easily 1/2 MOA rifles if I do my part. AI is quality engineered, combined with Bartlien barrels, and simply delivers.

A question could be who isn't getting under 1MOA performance, and do they suck? Plenty of shooters show up at Quantico R4 with good rigs but their technique, crap ammo, etc., make them 1MOA+ shooters.
 
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Defender3 said:
I was in Huntsville all week so I'm late to the party, but I have three AIs (short and long actions in differing calibers) and all have shot consistently under 1MOA out of the box and are easily 1/2 MOA rifles if I do my part. AI is quality engineered, combined with Bartlien barrels, and simply delivers.

A question could be who isn't getting under 1MOA performance, and do they suck? Plenty of shooters show up at Quantico R4 with good rigs but their technique, crap ammo, etc., make them 1MOA+ shooters.
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Playing devil's advocate here but even a 500 dollar savages axis can shoot under 1 moa from factory. Why would one spend 5k to get the same performance?

Also, what would make it better than getting a tikka t3x for 1/3 of the cost?
 
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1stShot said:
Playing devil's advocate here but even a 500 dollar savages axis can shoot under 1 moa from factory. Why would one spend 5k to get the same performance?

Also, what would make it better than getting a tikka t3x for 1/3 of the cost?
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Reliability. Durability. Trigger. Low bore axis. Integrated arca Way closer to under 1/2 MOA than under 1 MOA

And it’s an AI. Not a salvage
 
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1stShot said:
Playing devil's advocate here but even a 500 dollar savages axis can shoot under 1 moa from factory. Why would one spend 5k to get the same performance?

Also, what would make it better than getting a tikka t3x for 1/3 of the cost?
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Savage? Just open and work the bolt and you know it's a dog shit action. Had a lefty ss storm idk what model 800$ accustock thing in 65cm for the lady. She hated the heavy bolt lift and so did I. Still sits in the safe, want to buy it for 500$?
 
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