What bore guides do you guys use that fits an ATX? I am aware AI sells some bore guides but they are never in stock and don’t seem to be used for 6.5 creed anyway. I’m not really gonna be the guy to unscrew barrel to clean it. I’ve taken barrel off and yes it’s easy but I’d prefer to use a bore guide. Seems PMA guides are not an option.
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Accuracy International AT-X
- Thread starter Peter Laurvick
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In preparation for the first live fire with my AT-X I decided to clean the barrel just to make sure there wasn't any debris etc in there from shipping and sitting around. I know AI test fires them, but also thought they cleaned them as well after the fact. When I ran some patches through, they were absolutely filthy. Anybody else notice this?
So I just purchased an elite sand off Gunjoker last night. I've got a few goodies in my cart at Europtic, what are the essentials needed? Do I need a 20moa rail or is it included? Should be 5k dollar rig. I want a folder, cant find one. Prob gonna grab some internal and external weights for prs, need recommendations on a bag rider. Also going to install a zco420, sounds like I neee 1.5" rings/mount. Does someone make tbumb wheel screws to use instead the Allen heads for cheek/butt adjustment?
Factory installed rail is 20MOA.
Hinge from Mile High or Eurooptic
Sphur mount from Mile High or Eurooptic
Best bet for hinges and weights is to back order from one of the vendors. Also Saw Tooth makes external weights and might be in stock.
1.5" is a comfortable height for me and i wouldn't want lower. Bore and stock are nice and inline and the bolt can be removed without folding. I'd guess with a ZCO 420 1.35" would work without a bridge and maybe with a bridge if your concerned about scope height.
There was some talk of aftermarket thumb screws in this thread and I'm not sure if anyone testing them stuck with them. I'm sticking with the Allen screws because once the stock is setup once I don't need to change the adjustments since no one else uses the rifle other than me. If your shooting with family etc that might be a different for you.
Depends...are you running a high rail for NV or the stock? 2.75" if running the high
The last post is funny 
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I am running an ATX now, ran AT, AX SA and had an AXSR in the shop. Regarding bolts - don't get wrapped around the axle about it.
Some of my observations over the years...
1. 90 degree bolts seem to be lighter to lift than 60 degree bolts
2. For the most part they are all doing the same work over whatever distance (compressing a spring) so the shorter distance is more work (ie harder lift).
3. Many of the custom remington 700 actions are more optimized for competition shooters and are focused on smooth lift, smoother manipulation but come at the cost of function under some circumstances (maybe dirty conditions, ammo variablility - say hard primers, different trigger interactions etc).
4. Factory rifles are built and tested as a system, and its on the manufacturer to make sure things work to their use cases. Custom actions are not, and its on the gunsmith to make sure all the parts work togather to meet the shooter requirements.
My decision to shoot the ATX is based on wanting to know my rifle will always go bang, and if I have a slightly heavier, or less smooth bolt lift then that is a trade off I am willing to make to avoid safety problems and spare myself the work of making the combination of components always work well.
The ATX has a chassis that is very similar to most that custom actions are running, so that took away one of the large negatives for me running an AI. The bolt manipulation is not much of a concern for me, and isn't the reason I am not placing first at a match.
Finally - there is no best rifle. They all come with compromises, and different people have different use cases they want to achieve - so the choice you make is a balance against the benefits and compromises a manufacturer is making.
.I am running an ATX now, ran AT, AX SA and had an AXSR in the shop. Regarding bolts - don't get wrapped around the axle about it.
Some of my observations over the years...
1. 90 degree bolts seem to be lighter to lift than 60 degree bolts
2. For the most part they are all doing the same work over whatever distance (compressing a spring) so the shorter distance is more work (ie harder lift).
3. Many of the custom remington 700 actions are more optimized for competition shooters and are focused on smooth lift, smoother manipulation but come at the cost of function under some circumstances (maybe dirty conditions, ammo variablility - say hard primers, different trigger interactions etc).
4. Factory rifles are built and tested as a system, and its on the manufacturer to make sure things work to their use cases. Custom actions are not, and its on the gunsmith to make sure all the parts work togather to meet the shooter requirements.
My decision to shoot the ATX is based on wanting to know my rifle will always go bang, and if I have a slightly heavier, or less smooth bolt lift then that is a trade off I am willing to make to avoid safety problems and spare myself the work of making the combination of components always work well.
The ATX has a chassis that is very similar to most that custom actions are running, so that took away one of the large negatives for me running an AI. The bolt manipulation is not much of a concern for me, and isn't the reason I am not placing first at a match.
Finally - there is no best rifle. They all come with compromises, and different people have different use cases they want to achieve - so the choice you make is a balance against the benefits and compromises a manufacturer is making.
Y’all made the hinge install sound a lot more complicated that it is.
Don’t know why they sent 5 extra screws tho ?
Don’t know why they sent 5 extra screws tho ?
Well when the screws don’t come stripped from the factory I’d imagine it’s a pretty easy install lol. I will say though AI was quick to ship me screws…that were the incorrect size. Luckily my gunsmith had one that worked
I have read probably 20 pages of this thread, does a guy have to run the ax/at-x mags in these rifles or can I use the few aw mags already in hand? They're 40$ more than the already expensive aw's. But they look like you can run an extension on them? Idk, I'm totally new to AI, my atx will be at my ffl on Monday.
Have both, use both. It may just be my mind playing tricks on me, but the AW seems to be better.
See. Your drinking that piss Landshark and it clouded your judgement again.
Arca rail covers
Anyone make one like this. Ideally able to be peeled off like the magpuls. Maybe we should petition magpul
www.snipershide.com
Someone needs to make this happen
You know it's a heavy bolt lift when the Ultimatum Deadline is lighter
Just super quick and rough using a trigger gauge.
M2013 with TT Special - 8lb
AIAX - 6.8lb
Deadline2 LA with Rifle Basix - 5lb
R700/Archimedes with TT Specials- 4lb
Mausingfield with TT Diamond- 3.5lb
You must not have an original Ultimatum then. Those were ~24lbs of lift according to some people's measurements.
Thanks for that. I had a m2008 badger that was 9.5lbs using a Lyman digital gauge. Would be nice to get a ballpark for an Impact, Defiance and a Zeus to compare.
Looks familiar.
Awfully tempted to get another one eventually in that color, looks sick.
One more Red ATX just arrived but had a few dings on the action rail from the thread protector coming off in shipping. $4500 bucks delivered if anyone is looking!!
Ive had 3 of the original U300s which Ive since sold, and a Deadline gen 1 as well - none have been close to that.
I have two customs built off original U300....no issues. The constant subject of bolt lift makes me shake my head.
All of my Impact 737s are less than 3lbs.
Does win-tac cut bartlein blanks for these ai rifles? Or are they using a less costly option? Figured at the msrp of these, they'd be using a high end manufacturer.
(if you do your part)Depends how much you suck. 1moa
But we’re in a forum, so 1/4moa all day everyday
Just curious but why would people pay 5k for an AI ATX rifle that gets 1 moa? Is it because of the name? Easy barrel swaps?Depends how much you suck. 1moa
But we’re in a forum, so 1/4moa all day everyday
What barrel do they come with? For 5k+ I would expect them to have top of the line ones.
Bartlien
I’m not even a good shot
Hell look what a button rifled pva barrel is capable of
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So I can tell people I shoot an AI and post pictures and memes in the AI threads ofc.
I bought an AI atx because I could. I put a ZCO on top, because I could. If a person wants something, and can swing it financially, who cares. If it's not a half minute gun, I'll be a little disappointed. I will likely never shoot factory ammo since I just acquired 400x pcs alpha ocd srp brass. It'll get a steady diet of 144 hybrids for match shooting and 142smk for practice/target. I have never had a custom barrel not shoot 1/3 moa or better after proper load development on a quality action. If you want to shoot factory ammo, yes you can definitely build a rifle a lot cheaper that will shoot as good maybe better. Hand loads I'm sure a good custom fit barrel to a quality action will sholt to same potntial as an AI for cheaper. I have currently or in past owned customs built on terminus, impact, kelbly, Mesa Precision, lone peak, tikka, bat, zermatt and ARC action. Still own most but sold all the titanium mesa/lone peaks. They all shoot with a good barrel and chamber job. Prices for a manners tcs, impact, bartlein, diamond/tac sport, cerakote, you're in the 4500$ ballpark. Paid 4690 for my atx. I don't feel like I paid too much if it shots half moa out the box.
Although I have had issues that needed warranty work to fix, I would say my AI's average closer to 1/2" overall. That's about as good as I can shoot off a bipod so they may shoot better, but I wouldn't be able to realize the potential.
I don't have a AT-X yet, but I will as soon as the quick adjustable buttstock starts shipping.
I was in Huntsville all week so I'm late to the party, but I have three AIs (short and long actions in differing calibers) and all have shot consistently under 1MOA out of the box and are easily 1/2 MOA rifles if I do my part. AI is quality engineered, combined with Bartlien barrels, and simply delivers.
A question could be who isn't getting under 1MOA performance, and do they suck? Plenty of shooters show up at Quantico R4 with good rigs but their technique, crap ammo, etc., make them 1MOA+ shooters.
Playing devil's advocate here but even a 500 dollar savages axis can shoot under 1 moa from factory. Why would one spend 5k to get the same performance?
Also, what would make it better than getting a tikka t3x for 1/3 of the cost?
