When a secret admirer who deep down knows NF is #AlphaGlass sends you a sticker like this, you have to slap the can on for a pic.
When a secret admirer who deep down knows NF is #AlphaGlass sends you a sticker like this, you have to slap the can on for a pic.
Have wanted an AI since I was a kid.
Finally just took the leap and sold my TL3/Manners setup and got one.
Got a 6.5 creed ATX, had Hunts Long Range chop the 6.5 barrel to 16" and spin a 26" Dasher up for it.
Only have 140rds or so down the 6.5 before the chop at a match, and excited to see how it performs compared to my old custom setup.
I was honestly really impressed with the new comp trigger, even coming from a Triggertech Diamond.
Finally just took the leap and sold my TL3/Manners setup and got one.
Got a 6.5 creed ATX, had Hunts Long Range chop the 6.5 barrel to 16" and spin a 26" Dasher up for it.
Only have 140rds or so down the 6.5 before the chop at a match, and excited to see how it performs compared to my old custom setup.
I was honestly really impressed with the new comp trigger, even coming from a Triggertech Diamond.
16” 6.5 looks awesome. Might have to chop my spare 6.5X47 barrel
Its from “The Urban Rifleman”
Super nice 3D printed piece. I didnt want to add any more weight to the rear so it worked out perfect
I was wondering if you all could give me opinions of accuracy expectations of 6.5.
I bought a 26” 6.5 Bartlein barrel for my AXSA from EuroOptic and it’s the most frustratingly inconsistent barrel. After 250 rounds of chasing different ammo types I’m lost.
I will say up front I do not reload. One of the reasons I bought the 6.5 was due to large ammount of factory match ammo available.
The gun hates anything that is not Hornady. 140 gr FGMM 1-2 moa, 130 gr bergers 2 moa at best. 140 gr bergers 1-1.5 moa.
With Hornady 140 eldms I will get one group that measures in the .2’s, and then I can’t get anything better than 1 moa. With 147’s I’m consistently under moa, but barely, but every once in a while it will give me a tight little group just to keep me chasing.
With Norma match sometimes it will group better than the hornady, but then some days it’s opens up.
Yes the scope is tight, yes the gun is good…with the 20” 308 barrel it’s a tack driver. Yes the barrel is tight and properly torqued. I was hoping for the same results out of the 6.5 as I get out of the 308 barrel, as it’s a little easier on the shoulder and a lotta more fun for everyone in my family to shoot it. The barrel does have a 419 hellfire match on the end.
Am I just getting what’s expected out of a 26” Bartlein in 6.5 with factory ammo, or should I call Bartlein and send it in for a look, I never thought an AI, in 6.5 would be one of the most frustrating rifles I would shoot.
Pics of the gun and groups. Again you will see a tight one, and then many of what is common.
I bought a 26” 6.5 Bartlein barrel for my AXSA from EuroOptic and it’s the most frustratingly inconsistent barrel. After 250 rounds of chasing different ammo types I’m lost.
I will say up front I do not reload. One of the reasons I bought the 6.5 was due to large ammount of factory match ammo available.
The gun hates anything that is not Hornady. 140 gr FGMM 1-2 moa, 130 gr bergers 2 moa at best. 140 gr bergers 1-1.5 moa.
With Hornady 140 eldms I will get one group that measures in the .2’s, and then I can’t get anything better than 1 moa. With 147’s I’m consistently under moa, but barely, but every once in a while it will give me a tight little group just to keep me chasing.
With Norma match sometimes it will group better than the hornady, but then some days it’s opens up.
Yes the scope is tight, yes the gun is good…with the 20” 308 barrel it’s a tack driver. Yes the barrel is tight and properly torqued. I was hoping for the same results out of the 6.5 as I get out of the 308 barrel, as it’s a little easier on the shoulder and a lotta more fun for everyone in my family to shoot it. The barrel does have a 419 hellfire match on the end.
Am I just getting what’s expected out of a 26” Bartlein in 6.5 with factory ammo, or should I call Bartlein and send it in for a look, I never thought an AI, in 6.5 would be one of the most frustrating rifles I would shoot.
Pics of the gun and groups. Again you will see a tight one, and then many of what is common.
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Have you shot it without the brake and the tested it?
Take the brake off and reshoot it. I highly doubt it's the barrel since at least one of the ammo you chose shoots well. For some reason or another some barrels and brake combos aren't compatible. My previous 6.5 barrel didn't like the APA Gen 2 brake. Took it off and put on a can and it shot lights out. My current 300NM barrel didn't like the Keymo mounting system and went direct thread with the suppressor and it shot fine. And oddly enough, it shoots lights out with a Gen 2 FatBastard. My friend had the same thing happen to him too with another brake and suppressor setup.
Pull that brake off
Been reports of that 419 causing accuracy issues on another AI barrel. Was in a recent post just don’t remember what one
The one thing I have not done is shot it without the brake.
I’ll give it a try. God damn frustrating…..
I’ll give it a try. God damn frustrating…..
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AIAX won't group
First off, I'm not trying to start a pissing match over this but genuinely curious if someone can point me in the right direction. My AIAX is not grouping on par with my TL3. I cannot shoot at a distance currently due to where I live as the crops are growing. I was bored and thought Id see...
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It is a head scratcher.
I assume that the barrel is a conventional 8 twist? Both my AT and MC use the same Area 419 brake on Bartlein barrels and shoot consistent 0.5 MOA 5 shot with the 140 ELD-M ammo from Hornady. I get even better performance with FGMM with the 130 grain Berger bullet.
I would check torque on the barrel clamp with a torque wrench to ensure it is correct. As others said, try it w/o the brake to see if it improves. I would also try the FGMM 130 and see if your results improve.
Correct 1:8 twist.
Tried the 130 grainers FGMM and it hated them, which sucks because that was the load I was hoping it was going to love.
Barrel clamp is torqued down, checked it with fix it sticks multiple times.
I’m going to pull the Brake and try it again. That’s the one thing I haven’t done.
I hope that’s all it is.
My 308 barrel has a 419 match, and like I said it drives tacks, so I figured the formula would work again on the 6.5…but from others mentioning that may not be the case.
Tried the 130 grainers FGMM and it hated them, which sucks because that was the load I was hoping it was going to love.
Barrel clamp is torqued down, checked it with fix it sticks multiple times.
I’m going to pull the Brake and try it again. That’s the one thing I haven’t done.
I hope that’s all it is.
My 308 barrel has a 419 match, and like I said it drives tacks, so I figured the formula would work again on the 6.5…but from others mentioning that may not be the case.
Obviously something is wrong. But you know that
My AXMC 6.5 barrel was a 26” 8 twist. I only fired 15 rounds with 142 smk. 3 out of 4 (3 shot) groups were under 1/2 moa. Best being .26”. Those win tac Bartlein generally aren’t picky
After you remove the brake inspect the crown on the muzzle as well. There was a factory AXSR a while back that had a bad crown from factory
My AXMC 6.5 barrel was a 26” 8 twist. I only fired 15 rounds with 142 smk. 3 out of 4 (3 shot) groups were under 1/2 moa. Best being .26”. Those win tac Bartlein generally aren’t picky
After you remove the brake inspect the crown on the muzzle as well. There was a factory AXSR a while back that had a bad crown from factory
The cross bolt is another thing too that would cause weird issues. But as I have found out, it would be more of all the groups shot like shit with it not torqued down all the way. Wasted a whole range session because I forgot to tighten it down all the way. Also some guns like it at different torque. I think most people run it at the AI spec at 45 inch lb and there are others that run it at 55-60 inch lbs. My AXMC is in the ladder camp when my other friend with a ASR his liked it at 45. He learned that lesson too.
I’ve played with the cross bolt. Started at 49 in/lb per spec, and then went to 55 to try it out. It made no difference in consistency. After reading the other posts…I’m definitely leaning towards the brake is the issue…which sucks because I love it’s individual performance.
I run it at 62 inch pounds based on things I have read here
Great time to stop being a unwashed peasant and get a damn can.....
I hear there’s some really great cans made out of kits on Wish.com and such. That’s what the ads on Facebook and such keep telling me.
Tell that to my State Legislators who think that because we live in a State that had a huge mafia presence that suppressors will turn everyone into assassins, and they all be movie quiet.
Trust me if I could put a TB7 on this thing, I would have a year ago.
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If mateo can move his illiterate ass from guatemala to texas for a better life, so can you.
Bit of Tiger Stripe love for this AXMC. We did a combination of forends (factory and Victor Company), and front grip/plates (Dependabilt and factory) - so it couldn’t all be stenciled together.
Pretty badass.
Pretty badass.
Yep cerakote. This was wasn’t debonded. The last two I did were, but only coz I was doing Vision/AO forends.
180, as I was doing all the polymer at the same time.
Where are all of the 1.5/2.0 replacement chassis skins? Has AI completely discontinued them?
Yes, more than 10 years ago. They show up here time to time, on the sportingservices and Gunbroker.
Check sporting services UK. They often have more in stock AI parts than mile high. They may have the later production multi piece skins, the older 1 piece skins have been discontinued a long time.
Does that include the updated version with multiple sections ?
I’ll give them a shout next week. Thank you for the suggestion.
Coffee table musings. Enjoying the hell out of this book.
On a side note I picked up a cert for a Proof steel barrel and trying to decide, would like to do a 20” 6.5 Creedmoor to compliment the 300 Norma for the AXMC and maybe shoot 130’s, thoughts? Not sure if a 20” is an option as they don’t list it.
That's going to be a long ass wait for a 1.350" 6.5 barrel. Or he can get a factory 6.5 AI barrel.
My experience with Proof is only a sample size of one, and carbon at that... But I don't intend to try again.
I know others who will disagree vehemently though, so...
SR with the new Theta 735P. Shout out to @SkyScrapin for letting me take his optic for a spin before shipping it out.
Bunch of AI MC/SRs and one Cadex Kraken banging steel out to 2640 yards today.
It is the Mlok 16" forend for the MC. It is an integrated 20moa top rail and you would need to purchase the 20moa AXMC base to match it.
Church this morning on Quantico R4
I'm on my 4th and 5th Proof Research barrels, 3 of which are CF and 2 steel. Admittedly, only 1 CF and 1 steel have had high round counts, the others are still below 1000. I haven't had any issues with them, and the CF barrels have been crazy easy to develop loads for.
In full disclosure, I tried 4 or 5 different factory loads & made a half-hearted attempt at developing a load for the PVA Cayuga bullet, nothing showed much promise. I'm not saying the answer isn't out there, but I sure haven't found it.
Always a great time shooting with these guys. Thanks for a great weekend men. Shooting out to 1.5 miles is always a blast with the 300 Norma’s and 33XC.
Broke out the shorty .308 for some fun too. Good shooting guys!
@MACHTECH @tnester1 @MOUNTIC @Glassaholic @sick1225
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Love the shots ‘squirts! Couldn't ask for a better bunch of guys!! Shooting 300 PRC out to one and a half miles, even had my freshly built 18” 6.5 PRC smacking plates at 1500 yards!
I apologize for committing heresy by posting images of a non AI in this thread
I apologize for committing heresy by posting images of a non AI in this thread
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