Yup they're finally making what AI owners want…
But for a gun nobody owns yet….
Informative video. So you get the updated action but most importantly any upgrades from AI will only be available to that platform
Well then, your picture just showed exactly what I'm talking about. And what they described at SHOT.
Here's with another line added. You can see that surface sits lower on the bolt handle cam surface.
I think there’s been one report here so far. But let’s assume it’s identical to the AXSR bolt. Pretty safe assumption. Most of the contact areas of the bolt I’m sure are the same on the long and short actions
That said how much better is the AXSR than a current legacy action? Seems to me the older rifles were better on bolt lift than the current ATX actions. So is this a true upgrade or are we just back to where many of us AT and AX owners started
I know people here own both for comparison
That said how much better is the AXSR than a current legacy action? Seems to me the older rifles were better on bolt lift than the current ATX actions. So is this a true upgrade or are we just back to where many of us AT and AX owners started
I know people here own both for comparison
I never had any of the old rifles that felt "smoother" than current AT-X. At least nothing that I wouldn't consider action to action variation.
The AXSR I have does seem to have better bolt lift than the AXMC. Which, I believe, also has that lower surface on the rear of the bolt handle.
We are talking minor differences here though. The bolt lift isn't all of a sudden going to be significantly lighter.
It's still an AI.
It's still an AI.
Sorry I edited it. Specifically asking about bolt lift. That’s the issue everyone’s wondering it seems anyways. The bolts aside from the lift are identical and super smooth on my AT and ATX
These are literally in line with each other.
I think the perspective is different because the new action is thinner so the wall of the action sits closer to the bolt body.
That camming surface wouldn’t affect bolt lift, it doesn’t come into play until the bolt is already lifted like 90% of the way. I think the bolt lug geometry and the firing pin rear assembly are what would affect that.
Yea, that's what I meant. The AXSR lift seems "lighter" to me than the AXMC.
However, I have not experience lighter lift from an AT/AX and an AT-X. I think I've had 3 AT-X, and quite a few more AT and AX over the years. Not saying other's experiences are wrong. I just haven't noticed it myself.
If you're not able to see how much sooner the bolt handle cam surface stops contacting, I don't know what else to tell you. It's right there in your pics. And yes, it absolutely affects the feel. Many people used to polish the bolt handle and the receiver area there to improve the feeling of the lift.
I understand you seem to still have a bone to pick with AI as you're literally responding with needles every time something is posted. So, I'll leave you to it. I'm merely posting updates to questions people have asked over the last week.
Two weeks door to door for my Steiner repair, can't thank them enough - now the AT is back in action. I'll hit the range this week and test out the barrels, practice swaps and shifts and get it ready for February 'yotes and my first PRS match.
I may end up tossing the 2.5-15 onto the Mk12 or Scar in favor of a 3-18 with MSR 2 on the AT.
I may end up tossing the 2.5-15 onto the Mk12 or Scar in favor of a 3-18 with MSR 2 on the AT.
The green boxes below represent the amount of area the current action moves with contact more than the area on the new action.
The new action clears the rear surface much sooner than the current action.
The new action clears the rear surface much sooner than the current action.
That Xring vid, the AI fellow indicated that they:
Btw is that Xring guy on the hide?
- Improved bolt finishing
- Adjusted the bolt lug camming surfaces to lower effort and made them stronger
- Added two gas blowouts
- Reduced friction in unspecified areas
- Somehow made all of the camming happen in the lugs and none in the rear of the bolt
- Added a 32mm knob on some versions
Btw is that Xring guy on the hide?
That's about the idea I got from the video. #5 I believe is what the pics above are illustrating.
To be fair, the differences on rear of bolt contact will likely affect the feeling of bolt closing more so than bolt opening.
Gave up on finding old skins for the AWSM. I have AW skins but cant mount the rear one of them due to the monopod ffs. She will get a classic rattle can finish within the next few days to reduce resale value that much i will never even consider selling her
The heavy bolt lift union is probably going to file a grievance against me for this…but my discontinued and heavy bolt lift ATX got another first place finish @Steelcityprecision Rifleman’s Challenge.
Fuckin baddass! how bout a picture of all of those trophies won with that ES atx?
The bolt lift on my AXSR is somewhere between my ‘15 AX308 and my AT-X. But thats the same order of use they have as well. So might be just breaking in.
Seems like an overblown issue that you would only realize if you had time to play with them side by side.
Seems like an overblown issue that you would only realize if you had time to play with them side by side.
The rear skin has to be cut to fit the monopod. My understanding, that is what AI did.Gave up on finding old skins for the AWSM. I have AW skins but cant mount the rear one of them due to the monopod ffs. She will get a classic rattle can finish within the next few days to reduce resale value that much i will never even consider selling her
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And you were running that horrible angled factory grip….
Were there different skins for AW and AWSM? would be an absolute mess if i cut that skin and it does not fit afterwards. Any experience here guys?
*7 axis dreml noise*
There is a slight difference in the the skins but can be made to work. 7th Axis will make quick work of it though.
First off, it’s Elite Moss…it was originally that gawd awful democrat blue that AI made. Our team was a couple points away from a Key / Trophy at Guardian Arena. We came in 5th.
The front, yes, due to magwell differences. The rear skins are identical between long or short actions.
Nice collection man! Congrats! AI represent! It’s like the “Predator” collecting his trophy heads. Thanks for the picture..
I'm not sure how you even finished without the quick adjust thumbscrews on the buttstock??
Bolt lift United;
Mr. Bennett,
You’re snide remark in the midst of your “success”is nothing more than verbal flatulence. Once again, cease and desist from the weak posturing, it’s quite embarrassing for those who truly know… bolt lift.
Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe
Law Firm
I was watching a 2024 Shot show interview with Scott from Accuracy International North America on firearmsguide youtube channel. It was about the AX ELR. He said the 375/408 Cheytac bolts and magazine you could get from them in 2024. I was curious if they decided not to make and offer those 2 barrels?
I asked this question on the youtube video as well.
The video title is: Accuracy Int. AX ELR .50 BMG Anti Material Rifle- SHOT Show 2024.
It's only 3 minutes and 29 seconds, for anyone you wants to see if I missed something.
I asked this question on the youtube video as well.
The video title is: Accuracy Int. AX ELR .50 BMG Anti Material Rifle- SHOT Show 2024.
It's only 3 minutes and 29 seconds, for anyone you wants to see if I missed something.
I think it is to boost LE sales
They all have no self esteem and need to feel special and better.
Diversity is a good thing they both have their place
Gotta be careful they multiply too though. Gotta have them all
300nm performs better but the 300wm is the correct caliber for a mk13. With a return kit I really should keep it "correct".
Just sell it to cloners and get something more functional with the funds.
