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Join the contestI hear the LE models dont need as much time for the bullets to go to sleepLE AI’s have tech that turns bullets into bad-guy heat-seekers, making 90° turns, hiding in beds & waiting to strike (bullets “going to sleep”), delivering toxins, mixing drinks, buying donuts…
We shouldn’t even be talking about this on an open forum!
Shhhh….Does putting an AX stock on a regular AT give you the same product?
You confus me, Kemosabe.Does putting an AX stock on a regular AT give you the same product?
I still think one of the best AI on here was husky’s AXMC with thumbhole. That was bad assShhhh….
You can’t harness the power of LE models like that
AX buttstock $1100 smh
Cheaper than a felony and a couple years in Federal Pound You in The Ass Prison for straw purchasing an AT-LE from your cop buddy
Gonna need to see your papers
So they say they are still making parts for the current ATs
Yet parts have been unobtanium for a long time now
Intersting sales strategy
So they say they are still making parts for the current ATs
Yet parts have been unobtanium for a long time now
Intersting sales strategy
My AT was my grail rifleParts for AI rifles have always been unobtainable within a reasonable timeframe even for brand new current production rifles... Anyone who has owned an AI for longer than a month or ever tried to order a spare part should know this by now, lol. It's been a running joke for 15+ years that your backordered part will arrive "eventually" with no timeframe provided.
I remember waiting 6+ months just for different colored skins for my AT when the AT was less than a year old from the initial release, and 8+ months for different colored plastics and the longer 16" hand guard for my AX when the AX was still the newest and best model in the lineup.
If you think that's bad try ordering spare parts they normally don't like to sell to the consumer like firing pins, firing pin springs, safety levers, etc. No, I don't want to send the entire rifle in for a warranty repair, I just want spare parts for my inventory and can change it myself if needed.
It's an abusive relationship when it comes to anything AI, they hit me because they love me, lol...
Don’t say things you can’t take back!My AT was my grail rifle
It’s ugly
Yup...try being LH and getting parts.Parts for AI rifles have always been unobtainable within a reasonable timeframe even for brand new current production rifles... Anyone who has owned an AI for longer than a month or ever tried to order a spare part should know this by now, lol. It's been a running joke for 15+ years that your backordered part will arrive "eventually" with no timeframe provided.
I remember waiting 6+ months just for different colored skins for my AT when the AT was less than a year old from the initial release, and 8+ months for different colored plastics and the longer 16" hand guard for my AX when the AX was still the newest and best model in the lineup.
If you think that's bad try ordering spare parts they normally don't like to sell to the consumer like firing pins, firing pin springs, safety levers, etc. No, I don't want to send the entire rifle in for a warranty repair, I just want spare parts for my inventory and can change it myself if needed.
It's an abusive relationship when it comes to anything AI, they hit me because they love me, lol...
LE AI’s have tech that turns bullets into bad-guy heat-seekers, making 90° turns, hiding in beds & waiting to strike (bullets “going to sleep”), delivering toxins, mixing drinks, buying donuts…
We shouldn’t even be talking about this on an open forum!
The whole LE specific bolt gun is fucking retarded.
Same thing for the different models of the same damn switch barrel action.
ASR vs AXSR… ATLE vs AT… AXMCLE vs AXMC… ATXC vs ATX… ATXC Mil vs ATXC…
Ive never needed parts but scott has always been extremely helpful with any questions that ive had and has probably talked to me on the phone more than i deserve. My experience is that the customer service is quite goodYes, but people will still line up to purchase one. They will gladly fork out an exorbitant amount for an item that has almost non-existent factory support, or connection/empathy for their consumer base.
Yet the staus symbol of ownership will overcome many, who follow up their "I just got porked in the ass by AI" with "but it's an AI, so it felt smoother." As an AI owner myself, I am starting to master the prison rape victim walk, all the while telling others to GBPSE.
HK is way way way worse. They go out of their way to make their "civilian" guns and their military/LE guns not even compatible with one another.Yes, but people will still line up to purchase one. They will gladly fork out an exorbitant amount for an item that has almost non-existent factory support, or connection/empathy for their consumer base.
Yet the staus symbol of ownership will overcome many, who follow up their "I just got porked in the ass by AI" with "but it's an AI, so it felt smoother." As an AI owner myself, I am starting to master the prison rape victim walk, all the while telling others to GBPSE.
Tell them that.I did say "most". I have my reservations about the SR25s and most of the overpriced large frame ARs from Knights, HK, ect. It's not worth it since most of them are lucky to be a consistent 1 MOA gun and good luck trying to be very reliable suppressed.
Tell them that.
(I can hear the autistic screeching from here)
If they didn't have le/Gov contacts the price would likely be much lower and more civs would own them making up for the loss. WhenAnother thing that I often think about is we should be happy civilians get any rifles at all from them to purchase. I kind of doubt civilian sales is whats keeping the lights on there
There is probably some parts that should not take as long to get as they do but we have to remember theyre a small business and military/ le would come first. Just my opinion but if they can only produce so many parts so fast id rather the guys on the front line get them first. These are just toys for us civilians. If you dont like that about AI then buy something else, but it wont be as good
I remember looking at the conversion thread and people were bitching the cheek weld was too high with the AX stock on an AT.
I think most people that made that swap, myself included, also switched to the taller AX rail while they were at it.I remember looking at the conversion thread and people were bitching the cheek weld was too high with the AX stock on an AT.
I would love to see a whole lot more of this rifle... I'll be contributing my own photos shortly.Maybe we need a separate “Vintage AI Picture Thread” to keep things on topic? I’ll contribute to keep the intent of this thread alive!
Also, if anybody that converted their AIAWs to an aftermarket chassis or skins and want to offload their old and useless AI gear…
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#1 or #2 would look very comfortable in my house. Just saying if you wanted to free up space
No claims of first rights of refusal are valid unless and until you say the word "dibs." This is at least a nationwide principle of commerce.#1 or #2 would look very comfortable in my house. Just saying if you wanted to free up space![]()
Nice rig. Two suggestions- don’t bother with the monopod, buy a decent rear bag or a heavy fill game changer. Monopods haven’t been in vogue for like 10+ years. AI makes a LH AT, I’d try to find one if you can, it makes life a lot easier (fellow right handed, left eye dominant shooter here). CheersAlright, finally throwing down a photo as I've been researching for a long time. Mile High Shooting Accesories really came through and helped me out for my birthday. I'm currently waiting to install the Accu-Shot Monopod, and have two sets of Thumbhole Stocks (Green) on their way. Plan is to shoot factory Hornady TAP ELD Precision 168gr from it, probably exclusively.
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As a guy who's been pretty dedicated to running his HK MR762 DMRs for training and competition use, this is a whole new world for me. Worse still, I'm now trying to learn to shoot right handed, having shot LH forever due to cross eye dominance (Vickers style: I'm right handed, but left eye dominant). Sucks to suck.
- Factory 20" 1:12 barrel, 2016 Crown AI AT
- Leupold MK5HD 5-25x56mm Illuminated with Tremor3 Reticle
- SPUHR SP-5006 1.35" Scope Mount (there's about 2mm between the obj. lense and the NV rail)
- Atlas Bipod + Spigot
- 7 AIAW Double Stack 10 Round Magazines
- AI Factory Cleaning Kit, Tools, 19mm Spanner
The Monopod when collapsed acts as a real nice bag rest. I run Wiebad Fortune Cookies. And, no way am I gonna try and hunt for a LH rifle after just getting this one lol. One rifle is enough.Nice rig. Two suggestions- don’t bother with the monopod, buy a decent rear bag or a heavy fill game changer. Monopods haven’t been in vogue for like 10+ years. AI makes a LH AT, I’d try to find one if you can, it makes life a lot easier (fellow right handed, left eye dominant shooter here). Cheers
I know of 2 of the covert barrels that I could possibly get but never seen the suppressor for sale.No claims of first rights of refusal are valid unless and until you say the word "dibs." This is at least a nationwide principle of commerce.
Accordingly, Dibs on #4. Many moons ago, someone agreed to see me a Covert Kit and then reneged. I should have hunted him down and thrown him into a pit of alligators, but instead I just sulked/dwelt in the misery of what might be the firstmost of first-world problems.![]()
Said no AI owner ever. In fact, I think that statement might even get you banned here.One rifle is enough.
NZ?Spent the last day shooting redneck wallabies with the AT. Accounted for 20 out around 500m.
Running 175gr matching @2700 in the 26” AI barrel. Recoil is pretty nonexistent with the Tac brake.
Trying to make it harder on yourself past 800 with those 168s? 175s will have a higher BC. Not sure if the 12 twist will stabilize 185s.Alright, finally throwing down a photo as I've been researching for a long time. Mile High Shooting Accesories really came through and helped me out for my birthday. I'm currently waiting to install the Accu-Shot Monopod, and have two sets of Thumbhole Stocks (Green) on their way. Plan is to shoot factory Hornady TAP ELD Precision 168gr from it, probably exclusively.
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As a guy who's been pretty dedicated to running his HK MR762 DMRs for training and competition use, this is a whole new world for me. Worse still, I'm now trying to learn to shoot right handed, having shot LH forever due to cross eye dominance (Vickers style: I'm right handed, but left eye dominant). Sucks to suck.
- Factory 20" 1:12 barrel, 2016 Crown AI AT
- Leupold MK5HD 5-25x56mm Illuminated with Tremor3 Reticle
- SPUHR SP-5006 1.35" Scope Mount (there's about 2mm between the obj. lens and the NV rail)
- Atlas Bipod + Spigot
- 7 AIAW Double Stack 10 Round Magazines
- AI Factory Cleaning Kit, Tools, 19mm Spanner
The Hornady TAP ELD Precision 168gr rounds (BC .523 G1) have a higher BC than either 168gr (.462 G1) or 175gr (.505 G1)FGMM SMKs. At a mile high, I'm good out to 1400 yards, in ideal conditions. I won't have a problem reaching past 1000 yards at most altitudes and conditions, but I'll have to collect real world data. Impact energy will suffer with the lighter weight. I'd like to try out the civilian Hornady ELD Match 175gr rounds though, and see how they do. But I'd also like to hear other's experiences with various factory rounds using the 20" 1:12 barrel. The 1:12 twist is too slow a twist rate for 185gr Bergers, unfortunately, despite the 20" muzzle length.Trying to make it harder on yourself past 800 with those 168s? 175s will have a higher BC. Not sure if the 12 twist will stabilize 185s.
Nice, that elevation will help. I’m down at sea level. Have you done a tall target test on the Mk5? I just saw a new mil contract model with almost 3% error in the turrets.The Hornady TAP ELD Precision 168gr rounds (BC .523 G1) have a higher BC than either 168gr (.462 G1) or 175gr (.505 G1)FGMM SMKs. At a mile high, I'm good out to 1400 yards, in ideal conditions. I won't have a problem reaching past 1000 yards at most altitudes and conditions, but I'll have to collect real world data. Impact energy will suffer with the lighter weight. I'd like to try out the civilian Hornady ELD Match 175gr rounds though, and see how they do. But I'd also like to hear other's experiences with various factory rounds using the 20" 1:12 barrel. The 1:12 twist is too slow a twist rate for 185gr Bergers, unfortunately, despite the 20" muzzle length.
What rounds does your classic AW with 1:12 twist barrel like most? What have you had the best experiences with? Damn beautiful rifles...
Not yet. And all I've had the chance to do is do a first cleaning of the bore. Shooting happens today where I hope to see how the entire setup does. While I figure there's plenty of shooting data on this forum for the classic AI AT, I'll be glad to share my results. There's got to be some LE on here with plenty of shooting experience on the AI AT with the Hornady TAP ELD Precision round.Nice, that elevation will help. I’m down at sea level. Have you done a tall target test on the Mk5? I just saw a new mil contract model with almost 3% error in the turrets.