HK is way way way worse. They go out of their way to make their "civilian" guns and their military/LE guns not even compatible with one another.
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Another thing that I often think about is we should be happy civilians get any rifles at all from them to purchase. I kind of doubt civilian sales is whats keeping the lights on there
There is probably some parts that should not take as long to get as they do but we have to remember theyre a small business and military/ le would come first. Just my opinion but if they can only produce so many parts so fast id rather the guys on the front line get them first. These are just toys for us civilians. If you dont like that about AI then buy something else, but it wont be as good
There is probably some parts that should not take as long to get as they do but we have to remember theyre a small business and military/ le would come first. Just my opinion but if they can only produce so many parts so fast id rather the guys on the front line get them first. These are just toys for us civilians. If you dont like that about AI then buy something else, but it wont be as good
Glad I picked up my SR-15 years ago when Brownells had them for right at $2K with mil/le/veteran discount. They’re totally overpriced now though.
If they didn't have le/Gov contacts the price would likely be much lower and more civs would own them making up for the loss. When
.gov is willing to pay nearly anything because it's taxpayer money you jack up the price to make good money. There is really NO reason these AI rifles should cost this much when you compare it to other custom chassis builds. A bit more robust, yes but not nearly 3k+ more. It's .gov pricing.
I think most people that made that swap, myself included, also switched to the taller AX rail while they were at it.
The last two pages in the "Accuracy International Picture Thread" have been without pictures. I'm here to rescue you.
Sincerely,
Self-appointed Hall Monitor.
ETA: But yeah, the notion that "The King's Men" can have something that the citizenry can't have is antithetical - no, it does violence - to the Founders' intent and the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. On the scale of outrage, while I don't like AI's position on "LE-only" setups, it's still less of a sin than proclaiming your undying love for the ATF during congressional testimony. YMMV
Sincerely,
Self-appointed Hall Monitor.
ETA: But yeah, the notion that "The King's Men" can have something that the citizenry can't have is antithetical - no, it does violence - to the Founders' intent and the purpose of the 2nd Amendment. On the scale of outrage, while I don't like AI's position on "LE-only" setups, it's still less of a sin than proclaiming your undying love for the ATF during congressional testimony. YMMV
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Maybe we need a separate “Vintage AI Picture Thread” to keep things on topic? I’ll contribute to keep the intent of this thread alive! 
Also, if anybody that converted their AIAWs to an aftermarket chassis or skins and want to offload their old and useless AI gear…
Also, if anybody that converted their AIAWs to an aftermarket chassis or skins and want to offload their old and useless AI gear…
I would love to see a whole lot more of this rifle... I'll be contributing my own photos shortly.Maybe we need a separate “Vintage AI Picture Thread” to keep things on topic? I’ll contribute to keep the intent of this thread alive!
Also, if anybody that converted their AIAWs to an aftermarket chassis or skins and want to offload their old and useless AI gear…
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#1 or #2 would look very comfortable in my house. Just saying if you wanted to free up space
No claims of first rights of refusal are valid unless and until you say the word "dibs." This is at least a nationwide principle of commerce.#1 or #2 would look very comfortable in my house. Just saying if you wanted to free up space
Accordingly, Dibs on #4. Many moons ago, someone agreed to see me a Covert Kit and then reneged. I should have hunted him down and thrown him into a pit of alligators, but instead I just sulked/dwelt in the misery of what might be the firstmost of first-world problems.
Alright, finally throwing down a photo as I've been researching for a long time. Mile High Shooting Accesories really came through and helped me out for my birthday. I'm currently waiting to install the Accu-Shot Monopod, and have two sets of Thumbhole Stocks (Green) on their way. Plan is to shoot factory Hornady TAP ELD Precision 168gr from it, probably exclusively.
- Factory 20" 1:12 barrel, 2016 Crown AI AT
- Leupold MK5HD 5-25x56mm Illuminated with Tremor3 Reticle
- SPUHR SP-5006 1.35" Scope Mount (there's about 2mm between the obj. lens and the NV rail)
- Atlas Bipod + Spigot
- 7 AIAW Double Stack 10 Round Magazines
- AI Factory Cleaning Kit, Tools, 19mm Spanner
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Nice rig. Two suggestions- don’t bother with the monopod, buy a decent rear bag or a heavy fill game changer. Monopods haven’t been in vogue for like 10+ years. AI makes a LH AT, I’d try to find one if you can, it makes life a lot easier (fellow right handed, left eye dominant shooter here). Cheers
The Monopod when collapsed acts as a real nice bag rest. I run Wiebad Fortune Cookies. And, no way am I gonna try and hunt for a LH rifle after just getting this one lol. One rifle is enough.
I know of 2 of the covert barrels that I could possibly get but never seen the suppressor for sale.No claims of first rights of refusal are valid unless and until you say the word "dibs." This is at least a nationwide principle of commerce.
Accordingly, Dibs on #4. Many moons ago, someone agreed to see me a Covert Kit and then reneged. I should have hunted him down and thrown him into a pit of alligators, but instead I just sulked/dwelt in the misery of what might be the firstmost of first-world problems.
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Trying to make it harder on yourself past 800 with those 168s? 175s will have a higher BC. Not sure if the 12 twist will stabilize 185s.
The Hornady TAP ELD Precision 168gr rounds (BC .523 G1) have a higher BC than either 168gr (.462 G1) or 175gr (.505 G1)FGMM SMKs. At a mile high, I'm good out to 1400 yards, in ideal conditions. I won't have a problem reaching past 1000 yards at most altitudes and conditions, but I'll have to collect real world data. Impact energy will suffer with the lighter weight. I'd like to try out the civilian Hornady ELD Match 175gr rounds though, and see how they do. But I'd also like to hear other's experiences with various factory rounds using the 20" 1:12 barrel. The 1:12 twist is too slow a twist rate for 185gr Bergers, unfortunately, despite the 20" muzzle length.
Nice, that elevation will help. I’m down at sea level. Have you done a tall target test on the Mk5? I just saw a new mil contract model with almost 3% error in the turrets.
What rounds does your classic AW with 1:12 twist barrel like most? What have you had the best experiences with? Damn beautiful rifles...
Not yet. And all I've had the chance to do is do a first cleaning of the bore. Shooting happens today where I hope to see how the entire setup does. While I figure there's plenty of shooting data on this forum for the classic AI AT, I'll be glad to share my results. There's got to be some LE on here with plenty of shooting experience on the AI AT with the Hornady TAP ELD Precision round.
Dude same here. I picked one up new like 2017 discounted under 2000
Sold it for 4500 summer of 2020
I have had the best performance wth the Berger 175 OTM cartridge out of my AT which has the same 1:12 twist LW barrel albeit 24" length
Usually Fed GMM 175 works real well
Ive had excellent results with Winchester 168match I picked up for under $229 a case and I’m down to a case or so sadly
I took your advice and bought all the AXSR LH bolt bodies and a spare shroud/firing pin. Now all I need is the actual rifle LOL
Our team runs AIAT with 16” barrels and Tbac suppressors and run the 168 TAP.
Great round, never had any problems with it. But the furthest we shoot for training is out to about 800 or so. Not a whole bunch of application in LE realistically even past 300 yards. Haven’t shot out to 1000 with that particular setup.
I think he meant one rifle for each day of the week. But even then I'd say 7 is a little on the lite side.
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Can't take it with you might as well have some fun before we are gone
With the way these things are increasing in price, shouldn't be too long and that's a $40k pair there. Very nice.
Not sure it feels right to break up this retro party:
Axsr will be the new retro before long...
Maybe you already have heard of this monopod technique, but others might have not. I was thinking of buying one and ran across this vid:
Father in law wanted to go shooting for his birthday and asked me to bring a rifle. He started talking about getting into it and asked how much a setup would run. Thank God he didn't ask me about this one 
. I think he's learned already.
. I think he's learned already.
Why? Nothing like flexing on the father in law for funFather in law wanted to go shooting for his birthday and asked me to bring a rifle. He started talking about getting into it and asked how much a setup would run. Thank God he didn't ask me about this one
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.... Mine is always telling me how he built his wealth from the ground up.... Still works 10 hours a day and how lazy everyone is. He's 73 said he will be working till he's 85 blah blah blah.... Never sees his grand kids... Never spends time with his wife... drives a POS car that he's proud of for being frugal...Has a shiz ton of money and you would never know till he brags about how hard he works and never spends a dime.One of my hobbies is telling him how I ain't working a day past some year... think I'm down to 45 and his reaction of unapproval is hilarious every time.
I then proceed to tell him how I'll spend the rest of life on vacation with his daughter who will probably still work because she loves her job...shooting my ,"ridiculously" expensive rifles with my kids, and jacking my grandkids up one day on mtn dew and all grandpa's fav treats.
If you ain't going to enjoy the days you got wtf are you doing here? I make no apologies for what I do with my money. I know it can be gone tomorrow but I'm sure as hell am enjoying what the good Lord has blessed me with today. I work hard and understand I am blessed and give back but damn I don't live to work. I work too shoot n boat....
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You and me would probably be good friends if we weren't opposite side of the country. I am not working a day past my 60th birthday and likely with saved up sick time months well before that. I work to afford the things I enjoy in life and that's it. Looking at ways to boost passive income and work even less. Only thing I got going til 60 is state retirement and benefits which are pretty nice.Why? Nothing like flexing on the father in law for fun
One of my hobbies is telling him how I ain't working a day past some year... think I'm down to 45 and his reaction of unapproval is hilarious every time.
I then proceed to tell him how I'll spend the rest of life on vacation with his daughter who will probably still work because she loves her job...shooting my ,"ridiculously" expensive rifles with my kids, and jacking my grandkids up one day on mtn dew and all grandpa's fav treats.
If you ain't going to enjoy the days you got wtf are you doing here? I make no apologies for what I do with my money. I know it can be gone tomorrow but I'm sure as hell am enjoying what the good Lord has blessed me with today. I work hard and understand I am blessed and give back but damn I don't live to work. I work too shoot n boat....
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#45onayachtorgbpse
As for flexing on him, I've done that too hard already haha. He just knows whatever he is shooting is currently too rich for his blood. I told him I was thinking of selling off my m40a6 and he asked what they go for and he damn near fell through my concrete floor.
Is that a …Harris…on an AI?!Father in law wanted to go shooting for his birthday and asked me to bring a rifle. He started talking about getting into it and asked how much a setup would run. Thank God he didn't ask me about this one
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I can picture you now on that damn yacht, on SnipersHide, trolling us about the #12pounfboltliftlife or the MSR2 reticle being the best thing everrrrWhy? Nothing like flexing on the father in law for fun
One of my hobbies is telling him how I ain't working a day past some year... think I'm down to 45 and his reaction of unapproval is hilarious every time.
I then proceed to tell him how I'll spend the rest of life on vacation with his daughter who will probably still work because she loves her job...shooting my ,"ridiculously" expensive rifles with my kids, and jacking my grandkids up one day on mtn dew and all grandpa's fav treats.
If you ain't going to enjoy the days you got wtf are you doing here? I make no apologies for what I do with my money. I know it can be gone tomorrow but I'm sure as hell am enjoying what the good Lord has blessed me with today. I work hard and understand I am blessed and give back but damn I don't live to work. I work too shoot n boat....
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#45onayachtorgbpse
It'd temporary for greater things. Trying to decide if I custom machine the atlas spigot to get mount my pic atlas cal or buy a tbac or just buy the correct atlas cal nc to screw on.
Im getting a retro, [cool cuz he's old], vibe from the ether (@FUNCTIONAL) - and he has a peanut butter SB scope to boot.
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Do old souls count? Because I'm only 36Im getting a retro, [cool cuz he's old], vibe from the ether (@FUNCTIONAL) - and he has a peanut butter SB scope to boot.
. I would like a classic s&b 4-16 for it. Would look really nice.
Yeah 35 is way coolerDo old souls count? Because I'm only 36
I would like a classic s&b 4-16 for it. Would look really nice.
You really wanna be cool get a Steiner 3-18 with MSR2 right @Huskydriver
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It quickly was given to my kid brother
Hint: elite iron spigot mount and atlas is a winning combo
Mine Came with a Harris too
It quickly was given to my kid brother
Hint: elite iron spigot mount and atlas is a winning combo
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