Rifle Scopes Advice on very durable Optic.

Why not just purchase two new mid-priced Vortex scopes. When the Scar or your clumsy meat hooks fuck it up, send it back under the VIP warranty. As they fix or replace it use the second one until you or the ole lady fuck that one up. Rinse, Repeat

Grasping for the best optic of the moment to hang on a Scar is a waste of time.

P.S. I really enjoyed your post #140, so rare these days to see a man and wife bond over the shooting sports. Brought a tear to my eye as I envisioned the self proclaimed retard and sammich maker dumping mag after mag on the Scar, operator hard. But still finding time for a loving gaze or a sensual touch as you cool the barrel.
 
Why not just purchase two new mid-priced Vortex scopes. When the Scar or your clumsy meat hooks fuck it up, send it back under the VIP warranty. As they fix or replace it use the second one until you or the ole lady fuck that one up. Rinse, Repeat

Grasping for the best optic of the moment to hang on a Scar is a waste of time.

P.S. I really enjoyed your post #140, so rare these days to see a man and wife bond over the shooting sports. Brought a tear to my eye as I envisioned the self proclaimed retard and sammich maker dumping mag after mag on the Scar, operator hard. But still finding time for a loving gaze or a sensual touch as you cool the barrel.

I highly recommend bringing your sammich maker to shoot, brings you closer but being thuis is you in your latest video...I doubt you're into that stuff..you don't fool anyone.

 
Which hide vendor told you that the M-series had zero holding problems, turret issues, or ‘mushy’ turrets?

M-series turrets are one thing I’ve never heard a bad thing about, I call bullshit.

Only issues (in my opinion) with the M5xi is they are priced too high for the current market.
 
Which hide vendor told you that the M-series had zero holding problems, turret issues, or ‘mushy’ turrets?

M-series turrets are one thing I’ve never heard a bad thing about, I call bullshit.

Only issues (in my opinion) with the M5xi is they are priced too high for the current market.

Call chimney for all I care, it's what they told me. And you need to make up your mind, is what I'm saying bullshit or are you not 100% sure and you want to know who the vendor was? If it's bullshit why would it matter? ??
 
Call chimney for all I care, it's what they told me. And you need to make up your mind, is what I'm saying bullshit or are you not 100% sure and you want to know who the vendor was? If it's bullshit why would it matter? ??


I don't think anyone here is still making up their mind...


Whats your infatuation with single moms vs two parent homes anyway? Its like the third time you've referenced something like that. Its pretty weird that you put so much emphasis on what makes a man considering you objectify your wife in like every other post.
 
I don't think anyone here is still making up their mind...


Whats your infatuation with single moms vs two parent homes anyway? Its like the third time you've referenced something like that. Its pretty weird that you put so much emphasis on what makes a man considering you objectify your wife in like every other post.

Hahah, you a feminist? You just used very PC like words like "objectify wife". How about "sexist" "mysoginist" and "homophobeee" you use those too?
 
Hahah, you a feminist? You just used very PC like words like "objectify wife". How about "sexist" "mysoginist" and "homophobeee" you use those too?


I just matured beyond 14 years old where disrespecting women with your boys made you sound cool. Don't have to make it so complicated with all your fancy words.

I bet you're that guy at BBQs that gets too drunk and high fives your dad bros over comments that embarrass your wife while shes standing right there.

"HUHHUHUH AM I RIGHT GUYS?! AM I RIGHT!?!" *sips zima* *high five*
 
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I just matured beyond 14 years old where disrespecting women with your boys made you sound cool. Don't have to make it so complicated with all your fancy words.

I bet you're that guy at BBQs that gets too drunk and high fives your dad bros over comments that embarrass your wife while shes standing right there.

I don't drink bud. I think you secretly voted for Sodomite Rights and don't want to say it. Notice how you came to the rescue of another man playing White Knight when I told him to make up his mind. If you're into that, it's your problem not mine..what's your favorite ice cream flavor?
 
With your current run of breaking optics, have you looked into the mounts and or rings being used. The ADM Delta Mount was designed specifically to run high power optics on sacrs. If you would have used the search bar at the top of the page you would have come across this thread by deersniper back in feb.

http://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/scar-17s-eat-optics-and-accessories.6873756/

I also read on the FN forums that those type of mounts might be the issue. I did use an ADM mount since it's what I use on my m4s. If it was an issue with the mount, the Razor and the other cheap optics would have been destroyed as well. It's been well documented that the Scar will do it, no one knows what exactly the cause is or which mounts but it'll do it. It was the first mount I bought when I bought the Scar, great mount. I'm not saying it's the mount, just that I used ADM.
 
I don't drink bud. I think you secretly voted for Sodomite Rights and don't want to say it. Notice how you came to the rescue of another man playing White Knight when I told him to make up his mind. If you're into that, it's your problem not mine..what's your favorite ice cream flavor?

Then you're that guy sober, for sure, which is worse.

I couldn't figure out what the hell you were saying there so ill just answer the only thing that mattered. Cookie dough.
 
I have had a NF NXS 2.5-10x42 on my SCAR-17 for years with no issues. Shooting it at 1K is about as much luck as skill. 1 mile is a waste of ammo. When I rebarrel to 6.5CM its either getting an SB US, a March 3-24 or an Eotech Vudu
 
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Why not just purchase two new mid-priced Vortex scopes. When the Scar or your clumsy meat hooks fuck it up, send it back under the VIP warranty. As they fix or replace it use the second one until you or the ole lady fuck that one up. Rinse, Repeat

Grasping for the best optic of the moment to hang on a Scar is a waste of time.

P.S. I really enjoyed your post #140, so rare these days to see a man and wife bond over the shooting sports. Brought a tear to my eye as I envisioned the self proclaimed retard and sammich maker dumping mag after mag on the Scar, operator hard. But still finding time for a loving gaze or a sensual touch as you cool the barrel.
Damn Rick, that was so bee-utiful I now feel like a heel for poking fun, but I can do without the picture of her touching is hot manly man barrel.
 
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I see. Answers the question I was asking. What are you some type of scope expert, you seem to explain things well and use words numbnuts like me don't understand. Looks like more and more it'll be an S&B, thanks man.

I just noticed, you're the dude that writes articles around the net. What are your opinions on the Steiner Military, the 5-25x56, how does it compare to the S&B? Is the Steiner used by any Military or just a gimmick name? I know the S&B is well known for it's Military use.

That is an interesting way of putting it. Yes, I am some sort of an expert.

Steiner Military is a nice scope. In general, Military is just a name and by itself does not mean a whole lot other than this is the highest end scope Steiner makes. Steiner M5Xi scopes are indeed used by some military customers in Europe, but I do not recall which ones. I am not sure why that is relevant though.

The last M5Xi 5-25x56 I tested was a very respectable scope. Compared to the S&B I had, in terms of optical performance it was similar to the S&B in the 12x to 18x range. It was better than S&B at lower magnification and a little worse at higher magnification.

Mechanically, I had no issues with it. It is all somewhere on my website in one of the High End Tactical articles.

ILya
 
I feel that anyone whose wife tells them to buy a Tangent Theta should do so immediately, with haste!!!!

I second that. Unless she is planning to use is a blunt force tool to bludgeon you to death with it just to see if it still holding zero afterwards.

ILya
 
That is an interesting way of putting it. Yes, I am some sort of an expert.

Steiner Military is a nice scope. In general, Military is just a name and by itself does not mean a whole lot other than this is the highest end scope Steiner makes. Steiner M5Xi scopes are indeed used by some military customers in Europe, but I do not recall which ones. I am not sure why that is relevant though.

The last M5Xi 5-25x56 I tested was a very respectable scope. Compared to the S&B I had, in terms of optical performance it was similar to the S&B in the 12x to 18x range. It was better than S&B at lower magnification and a little worse at higher magnification.

Mechanically, I had no issues with it. It is all somewhere on my website in one of the High End Tactical articles.

ILya

Got it, thanks.
 
I second that. Unless she is planning to use is a blunt force tool to bludgeon you to death with it just to see if it still holding zero afterwards.

ILya

Hahah, I just think it's too much money. I don't see what I'll be getting over the others, it won't help shoot better than the others or see the target better. I haven't looked through one either and I have looked through most of the others.
 
Then you're that guy sober, for sure, which is worse.

I couldn't figure out what the hell you were saying there so ill just answer the only thing that mattered. Cookie dough.

No, we don't socialize one and two my wife and I don't argue in public or any of that crap. I told you, oldschool hahah. In that case, two scoops of cookie dough will help with your crestfallen state and after you and the rest of the single mother raised softies can do one of those group things and talk about how mean I've been. By the way, that's some gay flavor of ice cream..
 
Hahah, I just think it's too much money. I don't see what I'll be getting over the others, it won't help shoot better than the others or see the target better. I haven't looked through one either and I have looked through most of the others.

I agree. For what you want to do, it will make no difference. For your specific application, my original recommendation of a SWFA fixed pwoer scope still stands.

https://swfa.com/swfa-ss-hd-10x42-tactical-30mm-riflescope.html

Given how much drop you'll have a mile out, you also should consider getting a TARAC Bravo or somethign along those lines.

ILya
 
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I agree. For what you want to do, it will make no difference. For your specific application, my original recommendation of a SWFA fixed pwoer scope still stands.

https://swfa.com/swfa-ss-hd-10x42-tactical-30mm-riflescope.html

Given how much drop you'll have a mile out, you also should consider getting a TARAC Bravo or somethign along those lines.

ILya

I have one already bud, well, the US Optics version of it. Excellent scope, have it on another .308 but I want a little more magnification. Like someone already said, shooting a mile out of say a Scar is a waste of ammo so I want to make sure I have the most to play with and more mag will help me at least. Most of it is a retarded thing of principle for me, call me crazy but anything of that price should be able to survive a Scar 17 or FAL there are others that do which I already own like the smaller 1-6 Razor and the big brother so I don't want to get another Razor and look like a Vortex advertisement. Also, it's not going to be for the Scar, I just want to use it on the Scar or at least be able to.
 
another scope I looked through that impressed me was the Steiner Military but lately I been reading they're not as good

Reading where? Koshkin, a legit expert, just told you what he thought, and that man knows scopes.

I actually been eyeing the Steiner Military for a couple of years but called a store (one of the vendors here) and was told that the Military has some turret issues or that they lose zero on some.

Again, who told you that? I have not read of a single issue regarding M5 turrets, and if there’s an issue I’d like to know. I’ll gladly eat crow if I’m wrong.

But there isn’t an issue with the turrets, you are just talking out your ass.

I brought that up and was told that it was indeed the Military line and also that the turrets were "mushy" I think is the word he used.

It’s one thing to compare scopes and say, “to me the Steiner turrets felt mushy compared to Hensoldt/TT.” That’s why people have preferences, and are willing to pay 4K+ for that last 2% of performance. Quite another to just say “turrets are mushy.”

Call chimney for all I care, it's what they told me. And you need to make up your mind, is what I'm saying bullshit or are you not 100% sure and you want to know who the vendor was? If it's bullshit why would it matter? ??

Oh I’m 100% sure is bullshit. I just want you to call out a vendor, by name, so they can come in this thread and shit on your misrepresentation of what they said.

Go back to ARFCOM if you don’t want to be called out for running your mouth.
 
Reading where? Koshkin, a legit expert, just told you what he thought, and that man knows scopes.



Again, who told you that? I have not read of a single issue regarding M5 turrets, and if there’s an issue I’d like to know. I’ll gladly eat crow if I’m wrong.

But there isn’t an issue with the turrets, you are just talking out your ass.



It’s one thing to compare scopes and say, “to me the Steiner turrets felt mushy compared to Hensoldt/TT.” That’s why people have preferences, and are willing to pay 4K+ for that last 2% of performance. Quite another to just say “turrets are mushy.”



Oh I’m 100% sure is bullshit. I just want you to call out a vendor, by name, so they can come in this thread and shit on your misrepresentation of what they said.

Go back to ARFCOM if you don’t want to be called out for running your mouth.

The ice cream didn't work?
 
So if I run a few belts through a 249 and manage to eventually hit a plate with it, is it a 1 mile gun?


P.S. - Hi Larry. Repeating white trash sayings as replies to people is what gives you away.

If you're concerned about my approval, sure. Ah fuck, you're German...I hear your Women are letting the Arabs in because you're all, you know a little on the soft side.
 
I feel like we all know this guy.. all of us have someone in mind. The guys that act/talk the most macho are the ones with testosterone defficientcies. All the single mother talk... my $ is on, he doesn't know his dad.
 
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