Wood warp from heat/humidity for a barrel channel or an action inlet without pillars, sure. For grips, mehh... Don't think it matters.
it's probably a non-factor, that I will concede.
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Wood warp from heat/humidity for a barrel channel or an action inlet without pillars, sure. For grips, mehh... Don't think it matters.
Maybe right around the end of the year or in to the new year.I'm curious to know when we will see the Xylo in the wild.
You seem to be a reasonable person.
I work making high end fly fishing tackle.
Hand made in USA stuff.
We find lots of issues getting new products out.
Quirky boss/designer.
Material issues.
Material procurement
Research and development.
Labor issues.
Tooling and layup design and procedures.
Often you’ll find an issue or a point of improvement when initiating production and you really can’t just ignore it and press on.
Really big companies have people well trained with lots of experience to manage such projects and even they have difficulty’s.
Little company’s often just try to plow forward and adjust/modify/adapt as needed.
It’s been several months. Has ARC done any additional testing of the Barloc? Is there a fix?
Ted did testing on it and found that you can get POI shift with the Barloc. He also did testing that showed that you can get POI shift with a traditional shouldered barrel torqued on, so I believe he decided to continue barloc sales and don't believe a change will be made.
I have done some testing personally because I have access to a 100yd indoor range that limits outside influences and allows for really good precision testing. What I found is that you need the barrel to AT LEAST butt up to the barloc before tightening the barloc screw. In order to make that happen in my PVA prefit I had to ream the chamber a little deeper.
Originally I would bottom out the Barloc when tightening it, after pushing the chamber forward like .007", it makes me screw the barrel in .007" more to head space properly, and it contacts the loose barloc when headspaced on a GO gauge. The barloc still has a gap when the barloc screw is tightened down.
With the Barloc bottomed out I got POI shift with 'moderate' barrel impacts. With a gap still present I haven't documented any POI shift with what I'd consider reasonable impacts. I hit it fairly stoutly on a wooden frame to simulate me dropping the rifle or not pulling the barrel out of a barricade before trying to move, etc... No POI shift. I didn't go full retard with it-- I'd imagine if I wailed on it with a rubber mallet I could get POI shift but I don't see why that's a relevant test.
Have not personally tested savage style barrels with the barloc.
He didn’t mess with the shoulder, just chambered it deeper so it was tighter against the collar.When you mentioned,
~"setting the chamber deeper 0.007""
Does that mean you also have cut the bbl shoulder further forward and bbl breech face (shave off 0.007") too?
Or was it just the deeper chamber that helped you screw in the bbl tighter?
I have the same setup, and hand tighten the bbl to the washer, then torqued the Barloc to 90in/lb. Have not had a chance to shoot it yet.
So it sounds like a Barloc shouldered Pre-fit issue.Ted did testing on it and found that you can get POI shift with the Barloc. He also did testing that showed that you can get POI shift with a traditional shouldered barrel torqued on, so I believe he decided to continue barloc sales and don't believe a change will be made.
I have done some testing personally because I have access to a 100yd indoor range that limits outside influences and allows for really good precision testing. What I found is that you need the barrel to AT LEAST butt up to the barloc before tightening the barloc screw. In order to make that happen in my PVA prefit I had to ream the chamber a little deeper.
Originally I would bottom out the Barloc when tightening it, after pushing the chamber forward like .007", it makes me screw the barrel in .007" more to head space properly, and it contacts the loose barloc when headspaced on a GO gauge. The barloc still has a gap when the barloc screw is tightened down.
With the Barloc bottomed out I got POI shift with 'moderate' barrel impacts. With a gap still present I haven't documented any POI shift with what I'd consider reasonable impacts. I hit it fairly stoutly on a wooden frame to simulate me dropping the rifle or not pulling the barrel out of a barricade before trying to move, etc... No POI shift. I didn't go full retard with it-- I'd imagine if I wailed on it with a rubber mallet I could get POI shift but I don't see why that's a relevant test.
Have not personally tested savage style barrels with the barloc.
Same email that has been cut and pasted here? Or one asking for FFL info and final payment?Just got the email and paid for my Archimedes short action. Not long now!
Same email that has been cut and pasted here? Or one asking for FFL info and final payment?
When I paid for my nucleus and sent ffl info it was still 3 weeks until it shipped, and another week to arrive. Hopefully yall see these actions before October
When I paid for my nucleus and sent ffl info it was still 3 weeks until it shipped, and another week to arrive. Hopefully yall see these actions before October
Hmmm lefties must be a bit slow then. I have a sa lh so-010144 (originally 010072 but changed the bolt face size) and still no email
There was a few in the PX recently.Anyone have a recent order/delivery of a Mausingfield? The Web site says 2-4 months, just wondering if that is close to actual shipping times. Kind of want to get all the bits close to the same time.
Order SO-010151. Got my notification yesterday for the Archimedes SA.
Anyone ordered a long action get shipped yet?
Anyone have a recent order/delivery of a Mausingfield? The Web site says 2-4 months, just wondering if that is close to actual shipping times. Kind of want to get all the bits close to the same time.
Well i just got my email for payment for a lh sa. Now it's just the waiting game
I’m same but 010086I'm #10150 for a right hand LA. No notification...