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I am not sure what I am doing wrong but this programs give me way different infor than Shooter or Bullet Flight. Sterlok has been giving me very good accurate data.
 
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Program looks very good, so far, very similar to shooter.
A feature that would definitely make it different enough, is to have windage holds in the reticle view, apart from the holds for elevation. Sometimes in a shot there are variations in wind speed, having an idea of what range of values that represents in mills would be very useful for fast wind calls (eg. 1 mill is 3.5 mph wind, 2 mills is 6.9 mph wind, etc.)

Also, a scrolling wheel instead of the +/- for changing parameters in the hud view would be nice.
 
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Hi,

I've recently bought your mobile application (order #12999763169054705758.1328847294566749) and when I tested it, I found out that the automatic atmosphere function was not working, when I tried to use it, the application showed the next message “Failed to get current conditions from weather service”. I thought it was for the availability of the service at my location (I live in Arequipa – Perú) but then I tried another application that you recommend in your web site, “Shooter” application, and actually its automatic atmosphere function works very well, I tested the application on a Samsung Galaxy Note whit Android 2.3.6. So, I request your support whit this failure.

PD: I apologize for my bad writing, Spanish is my mother language
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dzhafarkhan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Drag data for Lapua bullets available from Lapua Site for free
http://www.lapua.com/upload/ballistics/qtulapuaeditiondragtables.zip

But no options for use free drag data!

I buy and tested lapua 300 gr bullet drag curve (880 m/s mv).
Lapua radar data and Litz drag curve very different
Difference 1400 meters – 0.5 mil!

I hope in near future you will add import free Lapua radar da

Excuse me for my English. </div></div>


how do you open a DRG.file?
 
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I just bought this program and love it. I wwould like to second all of the requests to "unlock" the distance in the truing or calibration section. For instance I shoot a 300 win mag and my outdoor range just doesn't go out past a mile. Id like to enter the actual data from 1200 to true if at all possible. I completely understand it needs to be near 1300 fps to be most accurate but I would like the ability to play with these inputs myself instead of being locked out.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vkc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any update on when the iPhone version will be out? </div></div>
+1
 
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Not sure if anyone ever double checks numbers like I do but just a quick note to let you know that the Free version of Sterlok (which is really nothing like the AB app) can be downloaded to your Kindle Fire quite easily without rooting it. You have to go through onlyandroid.mobihand.com in your internet browser on the kindle. There are a ton of non-Amazon apps there you can download onto the Kindle. Wish the AB app were on there. Maybe there is a way to make it that way???
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like Shooter for my IPHONE and will buy AB for Iphone even at 30 that's a fair price.
But I believe marketing to the IPhone first not after the cheaper phones makes sense. People who own iPhones appreciate quality and will pay without hesitation, cheap phone buyers are sometimes the guys who won't drop 30 on an app. Just my humble opinion. iPhone simply blows the rest away its not even debatable. People who don't have one think they saved money buying cheaper I respectfully speak as one of those cheap phone owners way back. </div></div> I can't help but to disagree, I went with droid because I don't like Iphone because of the apps. I have the droid razr maxx and don't skimp on the apps if I want one. With the droid version there are alot more people that can create apps (ie: ballistic charts) thats the reason I went with droid in the first place. thats the whole reason I got a smartphone too.
 
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So I've been playing with it for a few days (I've used shooter for a long time) and I really think I'll like it.

I am stuck though. I can't figure out how to change my bc from g1 to g7 and have it work. I change it in the drop down, then change the bc value, but it tells me every time that its wrong, or that I need a minimum velocity. Do I need to fill out the bc for all 4 of the velocities?
 
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I had to buy it after looking into it a bit more. Nice program. One addition I would love to see that one of my old programs had. Ability to range with GPS. The Ballistic Calibration for my 7WSM wants a 3000 yard shoot and I can't range that with my range finder. If I could GPS a target into the program then GPS shooting location to get range would be handy. No idea how to make that fit into the program.
Good job on the app, I like it. Also nice to put a face to the great Brian Litz. For some reason I pictured you as an older retiered engineer that started this stuff as a hobby or something. Good to know you may be around working with us for a some time to come and hopfully found a way to make a living at it.

I would also like to see the MV feature returned. It is quick and handy. I used it in the field to predict other shooters curves. Didn't have a chrony with us and was still able to get a curve that worked well.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RobertB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I really like Shooter for my IPHONE and will buy AB for Iphone even at 30 that's a fair price.
But I believe marketing to the IPhone first not after the cheaper phones makes sense. People who own iPhones appreciate quality and will pay without hesitation, cheap phone buyers are sometimes the guys who won't drop 30 on an app. Just my humble opinion. iPhone simply blows the rest away its not even debatable. People who don't have one think they saved money buying cheaper I respectfully speak as one of those cheap phone owners way back. </div></div> I can't help but to disagree, I went with droid because I don't like Iphone because of the apps. I have the droid razr maxx and don't skimp on the apps if I want one. With the droid version there are alot more people that can create apps (ie: ballistic charts) thats the reason I went with droid in the first place. thats the whole reason I got a smartphone too. </div></div>

I agree with Robert. I use my smartphone. An Iphone will not hold up with my casio commando. This is my 3rd commando. Don't know about Iphone battery life, but my commando is by far the best battery life I have had in a smartphone.
Real world apps and programs are not as available on apple products. I worked in multiple dealerships as a mechanic, in mines, and now farm. ALL the programs I have used or looked at are pc based. I have spent many thousands of dollars on programs and apps over the years.
 
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I'm also running it on a Galaxy Tab, but I can't get Kestrel data to populate. The devices are paired, I push the button to start Kestrel weather, but nothing happens. It works fine with Shooter. Any ideas? It would also be great to get a Leupold TMR reticle.
 
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Get the HTC w/ Gorilla Glass. Phone is tough as nails! The 5 inch screen is great as well!!! wife and 15 year old son have iphones and I take them to school with mine. Looking forward to buying this new app!!
 
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
So I am currently waiting for my slick new red GSIII to get here.
Now I am not one to BS but if I pay $30 for this app, I pretty much expect to be able to pick and choose my reticle since I have two reticles. Why? Because I have a Panty 6 with a freakin choke hold over the funds. Buying an app is one thing, but paying for, hahahaha, DLC, no freakin WAY! Shoot, the kids literally beg and plead for,'...just one more XBox Microsoft Card so I can get he latest DLC"
Do I personally have the dough to lay out for this program? Nope, not a chance. FREE is what I need and will pretty much have to 'suck up and drive on' with.
YES, I already looked at this one on Panty 6's new SGIII today, and when she looked over my sholder the venom over $30 AND you have to buy DLC TOO??? was really evident.
Mr. Lintz, you got a wife?
 
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Mr. Litz

What about an Applied Ballistics/Kestrel weather station that would link to the smart phones via Bluetooth and share your software so we could use the weather station as a standalone or link it to a smart phone when it’s in a weather vane.
I have talked to Benn Nielsen at Nielsen-Kellerman about this in the past and he seemed open to the idea.

Ben's contact information:

Ben Nielsen

Technical Support Representative
Nielsen-Kellerman
21 Creek Circle, Boothwyn, PA 19061
Phone: (610) 447-1555, ext. 109
or (484) 480-9631 (direct)
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LawnMM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can already link it via bluetooth...

What is it you are suggesting? </div></div>
You can only receive weather condition info from the Kestrel to the phone via Bluetooth I’m looking for a weather station that would be interactive with the phone and would use the same solver as Shooters app / Applied Ballistics app and would link to my handheld computer via Bluetooth.
I have an Hours/Kestrel and it would be much easier to input the data on my phone and transfer to the Kestrel unit via Bluetooth and have all the functionality of the Shooters app on your phone or a standalone unit whichever is most convenient at the time.
So for me a Shooters App or Applied Ballistics/Kestrel with all they offer that would interface with my phone makes more sense than the Hours/Kestrel unit I currently own.
 
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I guess I don't understand what you hope to gain linking it to a handheld computer. I understand you like the functionality of the AB app, but you won't likely see it on a kestrel any time soon for a host of reasons.

What "interactive" experience are you after? When I start the kestrel atmosphere upload in the AB app it continually updates until I ask for the solution. Another advantage if you have a 4500 is use the crosswind value and leave the wind angle set at 90 degrees in the AB app.

What do you feel is still lacking? I would just like to see an option to enable a wind angle feature in the app if paired with a 4500 capable of determining the wind angle with the compass.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GasGun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He wants the AB software to replace the Horus Software in the Kestrel. </div></div>

Not going to happen till you see a Kestrel with cell phone processor, ram, etc...and I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
 
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Is it possible to sell this app on the amazon app store. I bought a cheap android from Big Lots for $79 and it does'nt have the google play app installed. I bought shooter and it runs fine. Any other ways to get Applied Ballistics on my device.
 
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Still waiting for my beloved USO GAP ret ....

Cool app ... Nice progression on shooter

Data output was on E type steel out to 1100 ... Haven't pushed past that yet
 
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I am interested in purchasing this program after the manufacturer refuses to offer support on the application I am running now. thread

I don't have a smartphone and I'm not sure if I need one. I have been looking on Craigslist and I can get a phone for about the same price as a pda so I think I am going to go with the applied Ballistics app.

Can someone help me out, I have a couple questions? Sorry, this is all new to me.

I see the app requires OS 2.2 or higher and doesn't require internet to run, but will the phone need to be activated to run the software or can I just download the app via wi-fi.

The app is purchased at Google Play and they list all compatible devices but some of the phones I see are not on the list. What makes a phone compatible with Google Play?

If this works well for me I'll eventually want to upgrade. Will I need to re-purchase applications or can they be transferred from one phone to another.

Thanks, Mitch
 
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Google Play is just the 'new' name of the Android app store -- basically if it is an Android >= version 2.2 (Froyo) device, you can get an Internet connection, you should be good to go (just need a Google/Gmail account).
 
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Some andriods don't have the Google Play app store installed. I understand Google charges a licensing fee to the device maker. Where Amazon app store does not so you will see the sub $100 android tablets without Google Play. 1Moble is also a good app store but Applied Ballistics is not listed on either. Shooter app is listed on Amazon. Perhaps Brian can list AB on Amazon.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MitchinOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry, I don't know much about this yet. Most phones have wi-fi capability. Can I download the app and use it without activating the phone with a service provider? </div></div>Yes you can use wifi to access the app stores without a service contract
 
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So if I buy this for my Droid phone, and then get an ipad because I want a bigger screen, can it be shared with the ipad, or will it require another purchase?
I can add an ipad w cellular on my verizon acct .
 
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How about a barrel twist/bullet stability program. I know there is one behind the calculations but it would be useful before purchasing. Or recommendations of bullets for twist/barrel length. Great product!
 
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This app got an update within the last week or so. When I first bought it, I was a little disappointed by the lack of bullets in the library.

With the update, now it is awesome. If you looked at it before and moved on, you might want to look again.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pcschwenke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about a barrel twist/bullet stability program. I know there is one behind the calculations but it would be useful before purchasing. Or recommendations of bullets for twist/barrel length. Great product! </div></div>

The JBM Stability program is the best available right now, including the ability to compute gyroscopic stability both for regular jacketed bullets, as well as plastic tipped bullets.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Courtney</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pcschwenke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about a barrel twist/bullet stability program. I know there is one behind the calculations but it would be useful before purchasing. Or recommendations of bullets for twist/barrel length. Great product! </div></div>

The JBM Stability program is the best available right now, including the ability to compute gyroscopic stability both for regular jacketed bullets, as well as plastic tipped bullets.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi

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Perhaps online?

If you zoom-in into the browser's webpage you can see the screen shots much better and notice all the information you can get you hands on if you need it.

Note: All is done on the Analyzer Module

The first screen shows all the needed data.

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Next screen shows twist tables etc.

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Finally... Some graphs.

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To create a more accurate Drag Model in the AB Mobile App, I'm entering the G7 values from Bryan Litz's excellent work, "Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting". But, I've run into a snag. The App requires an entry at 0 fps.

Anyone know what value I should enter for 0 fps?
 
To create a more accurate Drag Model in the AB Mobile App, I'm entering the G7 values from Bryan Litz's excellent work, "Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting". But, I've run into a snag. The App requires an entry at 0 fps.

Anyone know what value I should enter for 0 fps?


Bryan responded to an email that I sent to Applied Ballistics. He directed me to page 275 of his book Applied Ballistics for Long Range Shooting (2nd Ed), where he discusses velocity-banded BCs.

The answer is to just use the lowest velocity BC value that you have, "This will not give an exact representation, but it's the best way to make a velocity-banded BC from the test data."

Thanks again, Bryan.