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Would you please share where you found the shim kit? I read the entire thread pretty carefully and didn't see any specific references to where these are sourced. I'd like something better than card stock or folded painters tape.It's the same no mater the powder. Shim and calibrate until small tube flow is .2 to .23 the go into advanced settings and adjust large and small tube speeds and set your transition weight at 2 grains or higher. Keep playing with those settings until you can get an 8 to 10 second throw that is accurate. Note your settings and shims for each powder.
I've been on the fence with upgrading my V3 to a V4 for a while now, but I have heard a lot lately about people upgrading the V3 to the use the Ingenuity Precision trickling system paired with the V3. Any one have any experience with the IP trickler that also upgraded from 3-4? Thoughts on which would be the best system?
I have been back and forth on the same. I have a v2 with some upgrades and the Bluetooth. I have been thinking about getting the IP. I think I have made my mind up to go ahead and buy the v4 bc I do like that it takes less space, but give it a try if I don't like it sell it and get me a IP. From what I can tell the v4 will never be as accurate as the IP but if it's +- .02 95% of the time I can live with that and save the money. The IP is just a better design how it separates the kernels. The super trickler ,v3 or ,v4 will never be as accurate.I've been on the fence with upgrading my V3 to a V4 for a while now, but I have heard a lot lately about people upgrading the V3 to the use the Ingenuity Precision trickling system paired with the V3. Any one have any experience with the IP trickler that also upgraded from 3-4? Thoughts on which would be the best system?
Or you could buy a $30 android phone and run it..... its not that difficult.I am not sure how one could download an app without it going through the app store. iPhone user here.
People jumping to the Supertrickler with 1 month turnaroundWhats going on with V4 update? Every single person I know who has one has the same issues with overthrows and no where near as fast as a V3.
People are selling their V4 and going back to the 3 or buying the Ingenuity Trickler for another $400+ to get their machine to run correctly.
Whats the status update?
I stepped up to a V4 from a pair of Chargemaster Lites so have no history with any of the other Autotricklers for comparison. I am using the 3rd party tip for the small tube and the shims kit to set the angle of the small tube as well.Whats going on with V4 update? Every single person I know who has one has the same issues with overthrows and no where near as fast as a V3.
People are selling their V4 and going back to the 3 or buying the Ingenuity Trickler for another $400+ to get their machine to run correctly.
Whats the status update?
What's this super trickler? We talking ingenuity unit? I have one sitting at the house to upgrade my V3, but still away with work.
All the folks I know have none of those issues and the V4 is faster than the V3s they were runningWhats going on with V4 update? Every single person I know who has one has the same issues with overthrows and no where near as fast as a V3.
People are selling their V4 and going back to the 3 or buying the Ingenuity Trickler for another $400+ to get their machine to run correctly.
Whats the status update?
Sounds like bullshit since EVERY single person I know (atleast 5 who have made switch) who has one has issues with it and they are slower with more overthrows.All the folks I know have none of those issues and the V4 is faster than the V3s they were running
I laugh at this. There is no way the V4 is faster than the V3. I have owned many iterations of the Autotrickler and never found that true.All the folks I know have none of those issues and the V4 is faster than the V3s they were running
More likely a "user flaw"...Sounds like bullshit since EVERY single person I know (atleast 5 who have made switch) who has one has issues with it and they are slower with more overthrows.
@NiteQwill runs them both side by side and its night and day difference.
There is either a design flaw or a software flaw in them. People wouldn't be spending hundreds more on an aftermarket trickler on top of the ATV4 if they ran correctly.
Just to be fair... If there wasn't a flaw, Adam wouldn't be working on a solution. Which he is.More likely a "user flaw"...
I've had a V4 since they were first released. Zero issues.
So, to be honest, your statements are the ones that sound like they're wrapped in bullshit. Which is not surprising considering your history here.
If you wanna pimp the other solution, go to that thread.
Fair enough. Though I still wouldn't call it a flaw.Just to be fair... If there wasn't a flaw, Adam wouldn't be working on a solution. Which he is.
Additionally, several well known national champions (F Class) have voiced their concern regarding the unit. Including one that is well known on the internet. It's well documented.
I shoot F class all the shooters I know that have no problem with their V4 are f class shooters a few "well known" the only one that was having issues had made so many adjustments that it wouldn't throw correctly after going back to factory setting and making some small adjustments to tube speed it fixed his problems. Most of these "flaws" are self induced or people expecting it to do something it's not capable of.Just to be fair... If there wasn't a flaw, Adam wouldn't be working on a solution. Which he is.
Additionally, several well known national champions (F Class) have voiced their concern regarding the unit. Including one that is well known on the internet. It's well documented.
This is also why people were using 2 and 3 chargemasters, because a 30 second throw with two machines turns into a 10 or 15 second process...Its also argubaly/IMHO why the AT v3 coube be perceived as bing worth twice the cost of a chargemaster...because its simply faster and more productive.The only thing I would consider a very minor issue is speed, compared to my V3. I used to fill all my cases (100 per session), then seat bullets.
I was using two cups that weighed the same. For the most part, it was taking 5-6 sec. per charge. The V4 seems to be around 12-14 per charge.
Self induced flaws have supposedly created a market for small tube tips, shims, enclosure units with tilt adjust, people tapping their trickler tube, etc. Must be all made up.I shoot F class all the shooters I know that have no problem with their V4 are f class shooters a few "well known" the only one that was having issues had made so many adjustments that it wouldn't throw correctly after going back to factory setting and making some small adjustments to tube speed it fixed his problems. Most of these "flaws" are self induced or people expecting it to do something it's not capable of.
People not having problems must be made up tooSelf induced flaws have supposedly created a market for small tube tips, shims, enclosure units with tilt adjust, people tapping their trickler tube, etc. Must be all made up.
I don't doubt (and no one has said so) that there are units out there that are perfect, just like some earlier units including a tap at the rear for adjustment and some didn't.People not having problems must be made up too
I would but I let someone talk me out of V3.Now take that 5-6 sec V3 and add a rotary plate trickler that never overthrows. Seriously, you should try it.
Market forces at work. In the end, this is GOOD for the end consumer IMHO.It's a strange conundrum...
...there's the AT, new version hits the streets and for most isn't much better than the older version...
...then Ingenuty Precision's trickler shows up on the scene...
Now the proverbial "word is on the street" already that you pretty much have to buy the IG trickler if you want to reap all the performance benefits the AT system is capable of.
Yet, the two companies aren't related, and the IG trickler works just as good or better with an older V3 as it does with the new V4...
...then along comes the Super Trickler...
An unenviable situation for the AT peeps for sure.
Market forces at work. In the end, this is GOOD for the end consumer IMHO.
More likely a "user flaw"...
I've had a V4 since they were first released. Zero issues.
So, to be honest, your statements are the ones that sound like they're wrapped in bullshit. Which is not surprising considering your history here.
If you wanna pimp the other solution, go to that thread.
Meanwhile, Prometheus users have been watching, smiling, and sometimes laughing... for like 20 years. lolAn unenviable situation for the AT peeps for sure.
Meanwhile, Prometheus users have been watching, smiling, and sometimes laughing... for like 20 years. lol
I like my V4. Yet it doesn't get much use. I like it for short run testing.
If I were in the market for an IG, AT, or ST... I'd wait about a couple years until after the "cheap trickler wars" have a winner declared. Horrific time to buy any of them. Huge wait times. All time high prices. Uncertain futures. More competitors coming soon. (yes, there is) This all reminds me of the "cheap annealer wars of the mid-2010's."