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"Budget Precision" Part 3 - Remington 700 AAC-SD

LoneWolfUSMC

LoneWolfUSMC

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#1
The anxiously awaited "Budget Precision" Part 3 is up.

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I was actually expecting a little better accuracy from the factory setup since I cheated and have already shot it for accuracy in the XLR Evolution Chassis. The next episode (Part 4) will have the rifle going into a B&C M40 stock, but I may have a little extra for you guys who want to keep playing with the Hogue stock. We will see how much time I have after I shoot the stock replacement.
 
#2
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Looks like a solid MOA gun, no problems at all with that...

How many rounds do you have through it? I would reserve judgement until it has a decent few boxes ran through it, but wouldnt be disapointed if it stayed right where its at.

This has been a good instalation so far, thanks for the investment.
 
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A bit better.

I have a feeling it will shoot just as well in the B&C M40, so tune in to the next episode and we will be happy to show you.

If for some reason it doesn't shoot as well, then I will drop it back in the XLR and film that as well.

I decided to go a different route on the XLR Evolution review. That will be coming up soon.
 
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Nice show!


I mentioned it in a previous thread but dont know if you noticed it.

I took my AAC-SD out friday for the first time. Shooting the 175SMK's I was probably averaging just under 1" groups with it. I only brought 15 loaded with the 178 AMAX and they shot quite a bit better. Which is odd because my standard SPS Tactical liked the 175SMK's quite a bit better than the 178's.


One shot got juked up by me but you can see where I'm headed. These were shot prone with no rear bag...just my hand

Just in case you wanted to try something different next time.
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#12
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmmm.
Your wifes rifle, maybe?</div></div>

Yes and no. Right now the XLR will be going on the ADL Varmint which will be my wife's rifle once I get it setup.

If I switch the XLR back to the AAC-SD it would only be temporary for the video. She really likes that chassis. In fact I do to.
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Now I have been thinking how nice it would be to have a M2008 action in a XLR.
 
#13
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rrflyer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I mentioned it in a previous thread but dont know if you noticed it.

I took my AAC-SD out friday for the first time. Shooting the 175SMK's I was probably averaging just under 1" groups with it. I only brought 15 loaded with the 178 AMAX and they shot quite a bit better.</div></div>

You may have one that free-floats most of the time. I have seen a couple that do until you really load the bipod.

Once I get to the end of the "build" portion I may do a load workup for it.
 
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After watching your video, I feel a bit better about my SPS varmint that I shot yesterday for the first time. I was only getting 1 1/2 or so MOA at 100yards and was a bit dissapointed. I did free float the barrel channel as much as I could but do believe that I'm getting some contact.

I would have 2 shots that were touching, then the groups would open up from there.

However, your video gives me a lot of hope. The Bell & Carlson M40 is on my wish list to upgrade.

Thanks again,

Charlie
 
#18
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I love this type of range reporting and reviews. I think you do a good job of representing what many of us "average Joes" experience at the range. I have had many days like this. I hate when that first shot shows so much promise, then it all goes to heck, like the group at 6:15. Thanks for doing the review, great information here.
 
#20
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Wolf..... informative video. Nicely done.

I have a question: I noticed a lot of bipod hop with your picture in picture shooting of the white paper target. Do you think it wise to maybe switch out and try again with the pictured setup? I think that rifle is capable of better groups.

Taking into account the rest segment towards the end I think the rifle shows what it can do. I have been going back and forth between the harris and Atlas on certain rifles and see each have they positives and negatives. I think this group of shooters is going to be more interested in the rifles capabilities with the bipod setup.

But just a thought. Great shooting towards the end!
 
#21
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We are going to continue to run accuracy tests prone with the bipod as we make changes to the rig. I shot if off the rest because I was fairly certain that it would have an effect on the groupings. With my other 700 in a B&C stock I don't see much difference in group size between the benchrest or prone with the bipod.

Regarding bipod hop, this is a fairly light system with a short barrel. There really isn't a way to prevent it, but if you notice with the exception of the shot I tossed, there isn't a lot of adjustment required to keep the rifle dropping back on target.

I like the Atlas, but I think it's outside the scope of this series. I kind of cheated by keeping the Harris in the game since I was trying to stay below $1000 for the initial build.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't you think your fundamentals of marksmanship should include some form of eye protection?
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Last time I checked, that wasn't a fundamental.
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I rarely wear eye protection when shooting a bolt gun. Ain't saying it's right or wrong. It's just what I do. I don't really dig placing cheap plastic between my eye and precision glass.
 
#25
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Maybe not a fundamental but, if you are doing an instructional video to teach people something, perhaps proper safety should be included.

Maybe just me but, it would give you more credibility as an instructor.
 
#26
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe not a fundamental but, if you are doing an instructional video to teach people something, perhaps proper safety should be included.

Maybe just me but, it would give you more credibility as an instructor. </div></div>

Don't think it's your place to question LoneWolf's credibility....

Some people choose not to wear them, so be it.
 
#27
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Great video, and good shooting. I am also building a practice rifle on a budget. I chose the Remington 700 SPS tactical and a nikon 4.5-14x40 buckmaster. I am getting moa groups at 100 yards, which is very similar to yours. I am satisfied with it for now.
 
#28
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe not a fundamental but, if you are doing an instructional video to teach people something, perhaps proper safety should be included.

<span style="color: #CC0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">Maybe just me</span></span> but, it would give you more credibility as an instructor. </div></div>

Don't think it's your place to question LoneWolf's credibility....

Some people choose not to wear them, so be it. </div></div>

Maybe you missed the highlighted part.

I have a cousin who lost an eye while he was riding a four wheeler to his deer stand. Just easing along, crossed a ditch, hit a root coming out the other side and it flipped over. The instrument bezel broke and gashed his face also gouging his eye. They put his face back together but, they weren't able to save his eye. It ended his career in his trade due to loss of depth perception. The point being, he never saw it coming. The chance is even greater shooting a rifle, touching off an explosion inches from your face. If you don't like the view through a piece of plastic, try it with your eye closed and see which is better.

KYS338- It doesn't really matter what you think. If my calling attention to his lack of safety during an instructional video saves someone from losing an eye, then it needs to be pointed out.
 
#29
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Good video John!

As for safety glasses, I have always hated wearing safety glasses too. Most of them do not fit that well to your head and coming from a guy that does not wear any kind of correctional lenses, it feels unnatural for me to wear any kind of glasses on my head. I got a set of CDI Maxes in the other month and now I don't mind shooting with glasses on. I also use them as my every sunglasses. They have replaced my much more expensive Ray Bans and Maui Jims.
 
#30
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe not a fundamental but, if you are doing an instructional video to teach people something, perhaps proper safety should be included.

<span style="color: #CC0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">Maybe just me</span></span> but, it would give you more credibility as an instructor. </div></div>

Don't think it's your place to question LoneWolf's credibility....

Some people choose not to wear them, so be it. </div></div>

Maybe you missed the highlighted part.

I have a cousin who lost an eye while he was riding a four wheeler to his deer stand. Just easing along, crossed a ditch, hit a root coming out the other side and it flipped over. The instrument bezel broke and gashed his face also gouging his eye. They put his face back together but, they weren't able to save his eye. It ended his career in his trade due to loss of depth perception. The point being, he never saw it coming. The chance is even greater shooting a rifle, touching off an explosion inches from your face. If you don't like the view through a piece of plastic, try it with your eye closed and see which is better.

KYS338- It doesn't really matter what you think. If my calling attention to his lack of safety during an instructional video saves someone from losing an eye, then it needs to be pointed out.

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Maybe you missed my statement. I was talking to you.... no one else.

Spare me from the lecture on safety glasses. IF you actually think plastic is going to stop an explosion of shrapnel and gun powder from entering your eye then you have another thing coming. Standard shooting glasses and "safety" glasses for that matter wont stop most of what you encounter on a gun range. You would have to go to Bolle ballistic goggles to stop an action failure from damaging your face.

Ive seen a guy lose his eye on a trail as well, he was wearing FOX racing goggles and a beaked helmet. A low tree with a dead limb was out of his sight due to leaves, a small branch poked the goggles pushing his clear lens away and the branch went into his eye and the eyeball ruptured. They have to have a EMS chopper come in and take him out. My dad was the one that sprayed the blood off his 4 wheeler. Point being, it takes a lot more then you think to stop a small explosion from damaging your face and eyes. Those walmart, local gunshop, I found these at the range house glasses are not going to stop much more then dust. I have seen the OSHA testing in our annual safety classes. They do the same for hearing protection.

If you don't like the points in the video, make your own about safety glasses and post it elsewhere. Again, you have no right to question another man's credibility of instruction. If people are doubting LW's word because he forgot his glasses then why would they consider anything you have to say as well? I just don't see the point in degrading another man's work simply because he left a very small detail out. Seems to be an ongoing trend though.
 
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I don't wear safety glasses in many of my videos either, maybe a pair of oakley's if the sun is in my eyes.

Because I can wear prescription glasses, you might see me with them on, but really, I don't see glasses as being an issue.

Lots's of down sides with them if you ask me, especially with a precision rifle. Handgun, carbine, sure you are throwing brass, and they blow gasses back, but with a precision rifle, come on. Half the time if I have a pair of oakley's on I am moving them out of the way.

Whatever,

If you want to wear safety glasses, wear them, I don't think anyone should dictate what he is wearing in the video, if that is the case, he should always have on long sleeve shirts, why not gloves, with the trigger finger cut, etc.

It's a distraction to what he is trying to promote here.
 
#32
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Just get some ballistic framed Oakley's if whatever you have isn't comfortable...that way you can't use the excuse you don't like putting "cheap" plastic between you and the optic
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or don't, doesn't really effect any of us so idk why everyone's gettin all up in arms about it. He's a big boy, he can do what he wants.

I'm interested to see where this goes, waitin for the next ones. Planning on shooting just the BH 175 out of it or are you open to trying some flavor of 168's? Only reason I ask is people sometimes get better groups with the 168. Unless you're shooting out past 600 or 700 yards, then it would make sense..
 
#33
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't wear safety glasses in many of my videos either, maybe a pair of oakley's if the sun is in my eyes.

Because I can wear prescription glasses, you might see me with them on, but really, I don't see glasses as being an issue.

Lots's of down sides with them if you ask me, especially with a precision rifle. Handgun, carbine, sure you are throwing brass, and they blow gasses back, but with a precision rifle, come on. Half the time if I have a pair of oakley's on I am moving them out of the way.

Whatever,

If you want to wear safety glasses, wear them, I don't think anyone should dictate what he is wearing in the video, if that is the case, he should always have on long sleeve shirts, why not gloves, with the trigger finger cut, etc.

It's a distraction to what he is trying to promote here. </div></div>

I completely agree with LL.
 
#34
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoomerTG1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm interested to see where this goes, waitin for the next ones. Planning on shooting just the BH 175 out of it or are you open to trying some flavor of 168's? Only reason I ask is people sometimes get better groups with the 168. Unless you're shooting out past 600 or 700 yards, then it would make sense.. </div></div>

The primary ammo we will be using is BHA 175gr Match. The barrel should be optimized for heavier than 168's. I may at some point run some 168's though it. I think I have a box of BHA 168 AMAX left in the pile. At this point it would be moot because either load is capable of greater accuracy than the rifle is at this point.
 
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Wolf

I recently bought the AAC SD as well ,,, Upon arrival I immediately inspected the barrel channel in the stock and with 0 pressure on the fore end the barrel was free ,, But with very slight added pressure it easily made contact ,,And definately the Harris Bi-pod made the barrel channel move and exert a lot of Pressure against the barrel .. So I remedied the non free float problem with relative ease ... I assumed ownership of one of my wife's kitchen utensils, The blade of it had a radius formed into it that closely resembled that of the barrel channel ,, I then used a common cigarette lighter to achieve a red hot state on the blade ,, The overmolded stock material easily peeled out of the channel ,, I repeated the process until the barrel was free floated ,,, After the last of the material was removed I again heated the blade and used it to blend the radius of the stock back to a factory look ,,, The barrel will only touch the stock if used as a pry bar ,,, Of course thats never going to happen ,,, Although i'm afraid without some internal work and possibly a barrel swap it will never be a Super shooter ,, But I'm happy with mine for what it is and what I have in it ,, Anyway thanks for the videos and your knowledge ,,
 
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Quick question: I noticed the giant tactical bolt knob in the first portions of the video, (which doesn't really look stock to me) but it was removed and replaced by the factory bolt in the last sement. Why did you make the change? Obviously there are the tactical advantages to the larger knob, but why were you switching them around? Just something I noticed and was curious about.
 
#41
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natty Bumpo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a big Wallace and Grommit fan. Can we see what the trick or treat-o-matic looks like? </div></div>

Unfortunately I have no idea where I nabbed the cardboard from and was not given a chance to T&E the "Trick or Treat-o-matic". Talk about a bummer.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boyscout157</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Quick question: I noticed the giant tactical bolt knob in the first portions of the video, (which doesn't really look stock to me) but it was removed and replaced by the factory bolt in the last sement.</div></div>

The bolt knob in question is a KRG Ops "Bolt Lift":

http://8541tactical.com/bolt_lift_review.php

I installed it on the rifle from the start as part of the original T&E on the knob. Unfortunately in each case I forgot to take it off before filming. It is off the rifle right now, but will make a re-appearance in a future video. It's a great piece for those guys who aren't sure they want a bolt knob OR are restricted from modifying their weapons (looking at you Marine Corps and Army).
 
#43
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I built a .308 SPS Varmint too.

I got a 4x16x50 Millett scope, Weaver base and Rings.

I blew my budget all to hell with a B&C A5 stock and added a 1 1/2 to 3 lbs Timney trigger.

But I plan on keeping it for a while.

Wolf good review.
 
#46
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Very nice work. I am looking forward to seeing where this bird lands. I would also like to see a ruff total cost when you are done. Thanks for all your effort.
 
#47
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The web writeup can be found here:

http://8541tactical.com/budget%20precision%20article.php

It has a cost breakdown for the initial configuration. I will be updating it as we add parts.

I am running one part behind on it, but trying to catch up fast. I have a training week coming up so that is going to delay me a bit.
 
#49
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Working on the next episode.

I had a match this weekend and training all week, so no range time. I have been getting a ton of requests to try to tweak the factory stock before I upgrade it. I am considering this route in a couple of different ways.
 
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