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Bully f*cks around with Jesse Pinkman and finds out
- Thread starter TexPatriot
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When the bad guy's have more rights than the good guy's... This is where America is heading.... Rapidly
Good shot. Don't put your hands on people and it won't happen.
147gr. HST turns bullys into ballerenas.
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Those shots to the back are gonna be hard to defend
Plus the smile before the bitchslap, the backshoot and then flashing the Shaka sign to his homie in the car and nonchalantly walking past bigboy.
At least he didn't put an anchor in his gourd as he walked past.
He's going to need Saul Goodman and his brother Chuck on this one.
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Asshole #1 got shot by asshole #2?
Or maybe #2 isn't an asshole, tough to tell from the video.
Were they discussing socioeconomic influences on Europe in the 1600's and the discussion got heated?
Asshole #1 got shot by asshole #2?
Were they discussing socioeconomic influences on Europe in the 1600's and the discussion got heated?
He might have turned around to strike the man in the yellow jacket again. Who knows, Mr. Fatass might have been armed and tried pull his own gun. There’s all sorts of excuses that one can come up with.
IMHO back shooting is ok. I’m not saying that a jury would agree with me but if I were a juror, I’d vote to acquit.
Remember, 12 to convict but one to acquit.
Well one bully got what was coming to him. Hopefully it was not in Austin, TX.
Good shoot.
Had that attacker backed off or tried to run when he saw the victim go for his equalizer I might think differently (not that the fat fuck didn't have it coming). But as recorded a good shoot. It's just too bad the vic didn't have a 17 round magazine to feed that pig.
Had that attacker backed off or tried to run when he saw the victim go for his equalizer I might think differently (not that the fat fuck didn't have it coming). But as recorded a good shoot. It's just too bad the vic didn't have a 17 round magazine to feed that pig.
Fat holmes with the ponytail almost got him a freebie.Fat dude earned them bullets.
There's problems for sure.
You might think... "He shot him for getting pushed?"
You could reply to that with "He shot him because he was trying to take the gun away from him and use it against him." Maybe.
But the counter to that would be, that's a situation he caused himself, by drawing his gun simply for getting pushed.
Right with the universe and right with the law aren't the same thing.
You might think... "He shot him for getting pushed?"
You could reply to that with "He shot him because he was trying to take the gun away from him and use it against him." Maybe.
But the counter to that would be, that's a situation he caused himself, by drawing his gun simply for getting pushed.
Right with the universe and right with the law aren't the same thing.
He needs to read up on disparity of force, as, depending upon where you are you can't use deadly force against what the Gov't calls "reasonable force."
But that guy appearing to be quite a bit larger could bring an argument for disparity of force leading to justified elevation of force used for defense.
Him having buddies with him will not at all help that, not at all.
Your brain can also only work so fast, so, he's got an excuse as to a shot, you could pray for 2 to the back when the person ISN'T running towards another, and ISN'T armed. But he may have sent one too many here. Continuing to shoot because he may continue to be a danger is something that may fly if he appears to be running towards another whom he could attack, or, if he has a weapon, like a firearm, that may allow him to get to cover, then return fire. But here, he's unarmed and wasn't running towards someone... this'll be a tough sell.
If his state is like mine, he won't come out good solely because he used deadly force against reasonable force and disparity of force would be really tough given he had 3 guys and didn't seem intimidated by this guy.
Personally, I believe this should be a good shoot. I hate the idea of "reasonable" force, I think it's bullshit, you shouldn't be able to assault and batter someone that is a non-willing combatant, whether with fist or not.
Good job getting to his gun when he thought it necessary given the close proximity and situation.
Boy, as noted above, there could be a chance of a push for the idea that this guy was going for his gun once it was revealed.
In some states, as in mine, displaying a firearm NOT pointed at someone could still be considered reasonable force, if he pushes that that is what he was doing but then this guy went for the gun and thus became a DEADLY threat....
That could find victory too...
But that guy appearing to be quite a bit larger could bring an argument for disparity of force leading to justified elevation of force used for defense.
Him having buddies with him will not at all help that, not at all.
Your brain can also only work so fast, so, he's got an excuse as to a shot, you could pray for 2 to the back when the person ISN'T running towards another, and ISN'T armed. But he may have sent one too many here. Continuing to shoot because he may continue to be a danger is something that may fly if he appears to be running towards another whom he could attack, or, if he has a weapon, like a firearm, that may allow him to get to cover, then return fire. But here, he's unarmed and wasn't running towards someone... this'll be a tough sell.
If his state is like mine, he won't come out good solely because he used deadly force against reasonable force and disparity of force would be really tough given he had 3 guys and didn't seem intimidated by this guy.
Personally, I believe this should be a good shoot. I hate the idea of "reasonable" force, I think it's bullshit, you shouldn't be able to assault and batter someone that is a non-willing combatant, whether with fist or not.
Good job getting to his gun when he thought it necessary given the close proximity and situation.
Boy, as noted above, there could be a chance of a push for the idea that this guy was going for his gun once it was revealed.
In some states, as in mine, displaying a firearm NOT pointed at someone could still be considered reasonable force, if he pushes that that is what he was doing but then this guy went for the gun and thus became a DEADLY threat....
That could find victory too...
That ain't no shit. A buddy got pulled over for a DWI in Austin. The bond was $3,000.00 for the DWI + $5,000.00 for the fact he had a 1911 truck gun, or 'unlawful carry' because he was drunk.
They reduced the DWI charge to blocking a public road, (even though Antifa can do it in Austin and nobody does squat) and dropped the UC charge but told him he wasn't getting his custom 1911 back, no way no how. I'm sure a cop own that gun now.
Hopefully they don’t go Nick Sandmann on him. The Shaka could’ve been him telling his buddies to call the cops? I was totally waiting for him to dome him the way he was walking. Either way I think it’s a good shoot. Guy was attacked by someone with size and weight advantage. A good defense lawyer should be able to articulate a solid self defense argument.
Regardless of whether or not the shooter is convicted...that one is close enough that it'll probably take a pretty serious legal battle.
Hope he had carry insurance, because the cost is probably going to start at $50K and skyrocket from there.
I'm older and broken (documented), so I'm not going to let some 350lb fat ape-man start trying to permanently harm me either...but this one doesn't look as cut and dried to me as it apparently does to others. Thank the good Lord I live in Oklahoma...it'd probably still be considered a good shoot here.
Hope he had carry insurance, because the cost is probably going to start at $50K and skyrocket from there.
I'm older and broken (documented), so I'm not going to let some 350lb fat ape-man start trying to permanently harm me either...but this one doesn't look as cut and dried to me as it apparently does to others. Thank the good Lord I live in Oklahoma...it'd probably still be considered a good shoot here.
I agree that the shaka was a gesture to call the authorities...at least I hope so for this guy's sake.
That was not just an ordinary shove. Fatass hit him in the chest and followed through to push the smaller man into the car.
Fatass didn't try to run but pressed home the attack when the smaller man drew his gun. At that point in time, Fatass could have put his hands up and said, "Please don't shoot."
Instead, Fatass pressed home the attack with more vigor.
The loud, in-your-face intimidation, the hit/shove to the chest and pressing home the attack when the smaller man drew the gun would be enough to cause a reasonable person to fear for their life.
With that said, the smaller man had every reason to believe of the HIGH probability that Fatass might turn around and comeback another way.
Furthermore, we don't know if there were confrontations prior to this when Fatass went after the smaller man, that would also be factors to condition the mindset of the latter for self-preservation.
The problem with most juries is that a lot of them have never been in a fist fight or forced to defend themselves. Prosecutors tend to weed them out during the Voir Dire process. I'd still vote to acquit.
Fatass didn't try to run but pressed home the attack when the smaller man drew his gun. At that point in time, Fatass could have put his hands up and said, "Please don't shoot."
Instead, Fatass pressed home the attack with more vigor.
The loud, in-your-face intimidation, the hit/shove to the chest and pressing home the attack when the smaller man drew the gun would be enough to cause a reasonable person to fear for their life.
With that said, the smaller man had every reason to believe of the HIGH probability that Fatass might turn around and comeback another way.
Furthermore, we don't know if there were confrontations prior to this when Fatass went after the smaller man, that would also be factors to condition the mindset of the latter for self-preservation.
The problem with most juries is that a lot of them have never been in a fist fight or forced to defend themselves. Prosecutors tend to weed them out during the Voir Dire process. I'd still vote to acquit.
Yeah, that was harder than any shove. You heard contact made plus it knocked him into the door frame.
You see bigboy raise his head afterwards as Pinkman walks by. If he was alive, the shooter will be asked why he didn't render aid. He should have gone into the theatrics cops go into after they shoot someone of 'Hang in there. Helps on the way.'
I think fatboy knew the shooter was armed, hence daring him to 'Go for it'. The shooter had a right to shoot him, if not for the assault then to retain his gun after fatboy started wrestling with him for it.
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Yellow jacket was looking for a reason to draw before the camera started rolling. Big baldie gave him one. He should have read that cocky smile for what it was. “I’ma light you up…
Any idea where this happened? That’s going to be the deciding factor here. Even here in kali, yellow jacket had every right to draw and shoot the guy up until he started running away. I do think he was telling someone to call 911.
I strongly suspect that this isn’t a case of a lawful tax slave defending himself with a legally concealed weapon. Not that there should be any restrictions on that, but there are.
Kinda appears to me, bangers doing banger sheeet. Don't know for sure, so there's that...
Vid d/n show what led up to the start of the confrontation, may not make any difference, but does show the end. Mac
Vid d/n show what led up to the start of the confrontation, may not make any difference, but does show the end. Mac
Baldie’s driver bugged out like he didn’t want to be there when the cops arrived…
I was glad to see the bully get shot repeatedly. Made my day. That should be legal everywhere.
They cremated a 600 pounder and it started a greasefire and almost burned the crematorium down.
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Curious if that was baldie's ride. The shooter gave him a sign like "call me". Curious if baldie survived?
He took some center mass while still at the car.
Looked like an awful lot of clothing layers he had to clear to get to the pistola. Big guy trying the intimidation technique. You never know who is carrying a weapon to equalize the playing field. And if that person can employ the weapon properly....
Without seeing the whole interaction and whether or not jacket provoked the altercation, you can't say if it was justified. From the audio it sounds like fatty knew jacket was armed and was daring him to go for it, though. Regardless, I'm guessing the world is a slightly better place now.
Especially people half your size. Keep yo're hands to yourself and ou dont get shot.
As the saying goes:
"Id rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
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But the prosecuting attorney sure won't see it that way.
Would like to know what the scenario was. Previous interactions and bad blood or just the parking lot posturing of two tough guys that passed in the night.
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