Bully f*cks around with Jesse Pinkman and finds out

Well, your buddy can look up sympathy in the dictionary between shit and syphilis, because he's a moron.

I don't think the penalties for drunk driving are stiff enough. I was almost killed by one, so I'm a little biased.
Fair enough. But I defy any adult to take a polygraph test, besides a devout Mormon, and say they have never driven with a BAC over the .08.
 
Fair enough. But I defy any adult to take a polygraph test, besides a devout Mormon, and say they have never driven with a BAC over the .08.
.08 is retarded. I don't drink. You can see what everything is about. Big highway sign today reads "crime doesn't pay DUI cost 13,500"

Mean while illegals flood the borders and get free everything. Cartels poltianas and crooked LE make billions on drugs and human trafficking. The son of the president of the USA flaunts drugs guns hookers and bribe money.

Here is our big focus though. Dude who had a beer at dinner and we can pull over because his license plate light was out. Fucking with real criminals is dangerous.
 
I remember that right after it happened. It was on 60 Minutes back when people still watched regular network programming.

The town got together and hired a hit man. Without watching the video, what witnesses that broke the silence said was McElroy was sitting parked in a Chevy PU in town with his child bride he had kidnapped when she was still underage and a guy carrying an over/under shotgun came from behind at an angle in his blind spot and blew his head off.

No towns people nor city officials would give any details to 60 Minutes, not even the local pastor of the church who only said he was was a dangerous man that needed to be dealt with.
Never heard of that one.

Ken McElroy​

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Fucking with real criminals is dangerous.
Reference my earlier post about Ken McElroy. Thank you for making my point for me.

I have known some cops with an attitude of "I can get to the shooting at 80 MPH or I can get there at 55 MPH." Not all are that way but gives us another reason to pack iron.
 
Never heard of that one.

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I grew up about 20 miles from Skidmore........I know a few of the people that rumors say may have been involved............there was no hitman..........he was shot by locals......or so goes the story........
 
I grew up about 20 miles from Skidmore........I know a few of the people that rumors say may have been involved............there was no hitman..........he was shot by locals......or so goes the story........
The only bad thing is they should have done it a lot sooner.
 
Never heard of that one.

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Died: July 10, 1981 (aged 47); Skidmore, Miss...
Conviction(s): Assault with intent to kill
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Here you go. This is the 60 Minutes I saw 40 years ago when it aired right after it happened.



It wasnt a group of townspeople that all shot him. They gathered at the passenger side of the truck next to the brainwashed girl/wife and what I remember was a lone gunmen came from a truck across the street from behind on driver's side and shot McElroy with a shotgun. That may explain the 'multiple gunshot wounds.'

Another account at the time said the shooter wasn't from there and used an over/under. The wife also said McElroy had a metal plate in his head because I remember us laughing and saying 'Not anymore he doesn't.'
 
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Well, your buddy can look up sympathy in the dictionary between shit and syphilis, because he's a moron.

I don't think the penalties for drunk driving are stiff enough. I was almost killed by one, so I'm a little biased.
Talk on your phone while driving? Text while driving? Fiddle with the radio while driving? I bet there's plenty of people that have been killed by distracted drivers that may be a tad biased by the things you have done.
 
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I don't think the penalties for drunk driving are stiff enough. I was almost killed by one, so I'm a little biased.

You sound like a little cuck saying: "Oppress them harder for me big daddy."

Don't worry soon enough you'll get your stupid wish and nobody will be able to drive except the Elites.

Oh and about all that B.S. about drunk driving, wait until you've had to deal with someone you care about getting arrested for drunk driving despite actual proof they weren't drunk but the power mad asian POS Police just wanted to rub their tiny dick in some innocent person's face and "because we can" and yep the police can totally break the law, totally arrest you even when they have written in their report that evidence shows you are innocent, and then get away with it.

ALL because stupid folks like you beg for "oppress them harder daddy".

It also happened recently to the wife of a politician here in Texas recently. Too bad nobody killed the cop or the vile jailers, but nope they get away with all that evil and stupid "good folks" blather on about protecting the public or some such B.S.
 
Fair enough. But I defy any adult to take a polygraph test, besides a devout Mormon, and say they have never driven with a BAC over the .08.

I've never driven with any drinking having happened prior and I know lots of folks that have never done any driving when drinking had been involved prior either.
 
Remember, 12 to convict but one to acquit.

Ten years ago I would have agreed with this. Remember we now have "judges" that haven't spent a single day in law school, who have the ability to put someone in jail with "the right to a speedy trial" being quite a bit away. Case in point, elderly Arizona land-owner/farmer who foired a warning shot, later found a dead person on his property and called authorities, and was put in jail by one of these judges "elected" by Soros support, with zero legal background.
 
I've never driven with any drinking having happened prior and I know lots of folks that have never done any driving when drinking had been involved prior either.
I grew up in the 70's and I'll just leave it at that. I'm surprised they didn't offer a How To Drive Drunk course in Drivers Ed.

A roadside sobriety test back then was a cop pulling everyone out of the vehicle and asking who was the least drunk and telling them to drive.
 
I grew up in the 70's and I'll just leave it at that. I'm surprised they didn't offer a How To Drive Drunk course in Drivers Ed.

A roadside sobriety test back then was a cop pulling everyone out of the vehicle and asking who was the least drunk and telling them to drive.
My dad grew up in that era. When I turned 21 (still under 40 but not by much) he gave me some fatherly advice about the perils of dui/dwi, about the difference in the times. In the ‘70’s, he had gotten pulled over leaving the bar, the cop had dad tell him dad’s address, then make dad follow him home. Told dad to stay put, or you’re going to jail.
 
You sound like a little cuck saying: "Oppress them harder for me big daddy."

Don't worry soon enough you'll get your stupid wish and nobody will be able to drive except the Elites.

Oh and about all that B.S. about drunk driving, wait until you've had to deal with someone you care about getting arrested for drunk driving despite actual proof they weren't drunk but the power mad asian POS Police just wanted to rub their tiny dick in some innocent person's face and "because we can" and yep the police can totally break the law, totally arrest you even when they have written in their report that evidence shows you are innocent, and then get away with it.

ALL because stupid folks like you beg for "oppress them harder daddy".

It also happened recently to the wife of a politician here in Texas recently. Too bad nobody killed the cop or the vile jailers, but nope they get away with all that evil and stupid "good folks" blather on about protecting the public or some such B.S.
No, not a cuck, dumbass. When you spend 9 hours in emergency surgery after getting life flighted, over a week in critical condition afterwards, a year and a half recovering before being cleared to go back to work, come back and talk to me about penalties for drunk driving.

Oh, and by the way, the mother fucker that t-boned me got 30 days in the county jail, with work release, so he wouldn't lose his job.

Does that sound even remotely harsh, compared to what I've dealt with?

So take your "oppress me harder, daddy" and shove it up your ass.
 
Here you go. This is the 60 Minutes I saw 40 years ago when it aired right after it happened.



It wasnt a group of townspeople that all shot him. They gathered at the passenger side of the truck next to the brainwashed girl/wife and what I remember was a lone gunmen came from a truck across the street from behind on driver's side and shot McElroy with a shotgun. That may explain the 'multiple gunshot wounds.'

Another account at the time said the shooter wasn't from there and used an over/under. The wife also said McElroy had a metal plate in his head because I remember us laughing and saying 'Not anymore he doesn't.'

There is story from county next us about a guy that got lynched back in the day. The feds showed up tp take custody of him but he was already dead. They wanted the to know who was responsible. The sheriff told them a lynch mob consisting of red headed bearded men, all at least 6 foot 5 inches, and we don't have anyone around here who fits that description. So they weren't from around here.
 
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No, not a cuck, dumbass. When you spend 9 hours in emergency surgery after getting life flighted, over a week in critical condition afterwards, a year and a half recovering before being cleared to go back to work, come back and talk to me about penalties for drunk driving.

Oh, and by the way, the mother fucker that t-boned me got 30 days in the county jail, with work release, so he wouldn't lose his job.

Does that sound even remotely harsh, compared to what I've dealt with?

So take your "oppress me harder, daddy" and shove it up your ass.
But granny who had blood mary with lunch and was driving 10 blocks home at 20mph doest need a harsher penalty because they refuse to make penalties harsher for people who actually deserve it. People who actually injure or kill someone doing something colossally stupid. I say DUI laws are already to harsh, and supplying a completely useless industry with people they force into treatment programs.

There is wide range of what a DUI is. Dude driving around town at 30mph at .08 is not presenting the same danger as someone going 80 on the interstate in 8 lanes of traffic at .2. The vast majority of fatalities caused by alcohol are well above .08.

There are definitely people not getting enough time, some gang bangers shot an uber driver in the head from the back seat so they wouldn't have to pay for their 20 dollar ride. To of them got 20 years a piece. Uber driver is dead. One of them got 40 years for fighting the charges. He was all pissed off crying about how they took his entire life. Not one word about the driver, his family, or kids.

I spent over a year a PT recovering from a work injury. I know what its like to loose part of your life to injury and understand why you are mad.
 
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Very strange that this thread is turning into people justifying and making excuses for the stupid things they do.

It's very similar to what we see in the T&A thread when someone comments about something they don't care for. Someone will frequently respond "Oh like you wouldn't fuck her." No, because I don't just stick my dick in anything that will let me. I guess you do. The "Like you've never.." "Like you wouldn't..." "Like you haven't..." defensive posts say a lot about the people making them.

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The “goodness” of that shoot looks like it will depend on the state/judge/jury and the quality of his defense. Seven shots with the last four or five while running away? Don’t love it.

That said- I read the context here a LOT differently than most other posters.

If I had to guess- I’d say the shooter was the bully. Seems like there was a verbal altercation, likely traffic related, with the big dude. The shooter was probably the aggressor, as he was called out as the “mouth”. Shooter was about to FAFO, because he had actually picked a fight with someone who was prepared to fight the whole crew. Showing force by having the whole crew exit the whip didn’t work, so rather than catch those ham hocks, he pulled his gat and smoked that fool.
 
The “goodness” of that shoot looks like it will depend on the state/judge/jury and the quality of his defense. Seven shots with the last four or five while running away? Don’t love it.

That said- I read the context here a LOT differently than most other posters.

If I had to guess- I’d say the shooter was the bully. Seems like there was a verbal altercation, likely traffic related, with the big dude. The shooter was probably the aggressor, as he was called out as the “mouth”. Shooter was about to FAFO, because he had actually picked a fight with someone who was prepared to fight the whole crew. Showing force by having the whole crew exit the whip didn’t work, so rather than catch those ham hocks, he pulled his gat and smoked that fool.
I will bet dollars to donuts shooter had no CC.

Nodding and seemingly taunting the big fella doesn't look good.

Why is audio removed from the second video? Where is the beginning of the first video? Was big dude from the silver SUV parked in the street?

When did this happen? It is not normal to see so many coats and hats in Pue town in mid summer.

No matter what your butt hurt level, you don't put hands on someone. That would be fucking around, and we all know what happens when you fuck around.

I will have to text some friends when its more time they might wake up. I might remember hearing about this, and possibly know someone who knows the man being referred to as "fat fuck."
 
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But granny who had blood mary with lunch and was driving 10 blocks home at 20mph doest need a harsher penalty because they refuse to make penalties harsher for people who actually deserve it. People who actually injure or kill someone doing something colossally stupid. I say DUI laws are already to harsh, and supplying a completely useless industry with people they force into treatment programs.

There is wide range of what a DUI is. Dude driving around town at 30mph at .08 is not presenting the same danger as someone going 80 on the interstate in 8 lanes of traffic at .2. The vast majority of fatalities caused by alcohol are well above .08.

There are definitely people not getting enough time, some gang bangers shot an uber driver in the head from the back seat so they wouldn't have to pay for their 20 dollar ride. To of them got 20 years a piece. Uber driver is dead. One of them got 40 years for fighting the charges. He was all pissed off crying about how they took his entire life. Not one word about the driver, his family, or kids.

I spent over a year a PT recovering from a work injury. I know what its like to loose part of your life to injury and understand why you are mad.
Drunkm**ican is one word here in Texas and is probably the leading cause of traffic accidents and deaths here. Most illegals don't have drivers licenses much less insurance. And that doesn't stop them drinking and driving. Because fuck your pinche DWI laws.

Cops avoid stopping them because of the paperwork and because it's racist.
 
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To those saying the shots in the back when Fatboy turned and ran were no longer in self defense, maybe, but cops do it all the time with every cop on the scene getting in on the action.

If the trained professionals who are the only ones supposedly qualified to own and carry guns are not expected to turn off deadly force once the shooting starts, why should a lowly, untrained citizen?
 
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... no longer in self defense, maybe, but cops do it all the time ...

If the trained professionals ...

Cops are privileged and their actions are above reproach, they are literally above the law ... "trained professionals" ... bwahahahahah

In many states/situations peasants can only "legally" shoot at "fleeing" felons only under certain conditions when property loss is involved or when the felon poses a clear and imminent threat like a guy with an evil black machete who is running from you because you have a gun but still taking swipes at people in the mall ... in other states not at all

If you find yourself in this situation and you don't get a pass from the DA the best you can hope for is a trial with this guy on the jury

fuck fatso. my view is that if you do everything to earn a bullet,

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The “goodness” of that shoot looks like it will depend on the state/judge/jury and the quality of his defense. Seven shots with the last four or five while running away? Don’t love it.

That said- I read the context here a LOT differently than most other posters.

If I had to guess- I’d say the shooter was the bully. Seems like there was a verbal altercation, likely traffic related, with the big dude. The shooter was probably the aggressor, as he was called out as the “mouth”. Shooter was about to FAFO, because he had actually picked a fight with someone who was prepared to fight the whole crew. Showing force by having the whole crew exit the whip didn’t work, so rather than catch those ham hocks, he pulled his gat and smoked that fool.
George Zimmerman started it too…

Big people like that are dangerous, especially when you’re as small as the shooter. Good shoot.
 
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To those saying the shots in the back when Fatboy turned and ran were no longer in self defense, maybe, but cops do it all the time with every cop on the scene getting in on the action.

If the trained professionals who are the only ones supposedly qualified to own and carry guns are not expected to turn off deadly force once the shooting starts, why should a lowly, untrained citizen?
Gov will say, you are correct but cops only do this usually after they issue a stop or drop the weapon command so that gives them justification Lol. Oh and duh, they are cops.
 
I will bet dollars to donuts shooter had no CC.

Nodding and seemingly taunting the big fella doesn't look good.

Why is audio removed from the second video? Where is the beginning of the first video? Was big dude from the silver SUV parked in the street?
Audio has been filtered, you can hear other stuff, not sure why, prob to hide some facts.

Cc or not, i dont think it was yellow coats first interaction like this. As i see it, its likely a setup, they knew each other or of each other and this just so happens where it went down. Dude cornered himself and fatty took the bait. Big dude saying "oh you got metal?" And taunting lil guy about it means lil dude let him know, whether showing or telling.

I think it was a setup. Maybe drug dealera or some other sort of pos like gangs or what have you. Lil guy baited him in to be the aggressor and make it a legal murder. I could be wrong though.
 
Audio has been filtered, you can hear other stuff, not sure why, prob to hide some facts
Either way it‘s probably at the point now where the DA will issue a search warrant for the phone and all electronic devices for both parties then spend months going thru every single word they both texted, sent over an app, wrote in a forum, and typed out on all their respective social media accounts.
 
Guys, guys! I figured out how to get out of a DUI! Don't drink and drive! Who'd a thunk it?

They had to pick a number. .08 is it. And that is based on research with test groups. The average person who has reached that BAC is impaired physically and mentally.

People are dying and suffering life-altering injuries because of it. As for harsh penalties, what about the person who is now on his or her third DUI? The penalties from before did not work well enough, evidently.

So, go ahead and have a good cry and pound sand. As for knowing people who "only had one drink" and got arrested, did they get convicted? And, if it was .08 or greater, it was more than one drink.

On the flip side, you do not have to answer questions. But do remember this. If the cop asks you if you had anything to drink tonight and you say anything other than "no," it is now a DUI stop. You do not have to perform sobriety tests and those are not actually about physical agility. They are about watching your eyes and hearing your speech. Make them get a warrant for blood. Realize that you are getting arrested and going to jail. But, if you keep your mouth shut, you may not be convicted. Especially if the BAC test shows below the legal limit.

You do not have to tell the police about past events, such as any drinking prior to the stop. You don't have to say where you were. In fact, only identify yourself with license and insurance and then "STFU."

Is it unfair? That's academic. Don't drink and then drive. Period. Have we all done it? Probably. Does not make it right or excusable. We have ideals to hold to and that separates us from animals.

And for those who say that we do not need cops to deal with this, what is your solution? Wholesale murder of the suspect? How do you know that suspect was drunk? That would be a blood test, right? How did you get that done?

What if you had a few and did not feel "drunk" but got in an accident and someone got hurt. Then it is your turn in the crosshairs.
 
Guys, guys! I figured out how to get out of a DUI! Don't drink and drive! Who'd a thunk it?

They had to pick a number. .08 is it. And that is based on research with test groups. The average person who has reached that BAC is impaired physically and mentally.

People are dying and suffering life-altering injuries because of it. As for harsh penalties, what about the person who is now on his or her third DUI? The penalties from before did not work well enough, evidently.

So, go ahead and have a good cry and pound sand. As for knowing people who "only had one drink" and got arrested, did they get convicted? And, if it was .08 or greater, it was more than one drink.

On the flip side, you do not have to answer questions. But do remember this. If the cop asks you if you had anything to drink tonight and you say anything other than "no," it is now a DUI stop. You do not have to perform sobriety tests and those are not actually about physical agility. They are about watching your eyes and hearing your speech. Make them get a warrant for blood. Realize that you are getting arrested and going to jail. But, if you keep your mouth shut, you may not be convicted. Especially if the BAC test shows below the legal limit.

You do not have to tell the police about past events, such as any drinking prior to the stop. You don't have to say where you were. In fact, only identify yourself with license and insurance and then "STFU."

Is it unfair? That's academic. Don't drink and then drive. Period. Have we all done it? Probably. Does not make it right or excusable. We have ideals to hold to and that separates us from animals.

And for those who say that we do not need cops to deal with this, what is your solution? Wholesale murder of the suspect? How do you know that suspect was drunk? That would be a blood test, right? How did you get that done?

What if you had a few and did not feel "drunk" but got in an accident and someone got hurt. Then it is your turn in the crosshairs.
You know how not to killed by the CCP in China? Be good little Lemming and do what you are told. Being the law doesn't make right.

They did not have to choose a number but when they did it was .1 before .08.

How many DUI's have you given out and/or how much money/bonus have made from current DUI laws?
 
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Audio has been filtered, you can hear other stuff, not sure why, prob to hide some facts.

Cc or not, i dont think it was yellow coats first interaction like this. As i see it, its likely a setup, they knew each other or of each other and this just so happens where it went down. Dude cornered himself and fatty took the bait. Big dude saying "oh you got metal?" And taunting lil guy about it means lil dude let him know, whether showing or telling.

I think it was a setup. Maybe drug dealera or some other sort of pos like gangs or what have you. Lil guy baited him in to be the aggressor and make it a legal murder. I could be wrong though.
I would guess whether he was legally carrying or not will come into play. I doubt too any bangers go get their CC. I doubt to many people with a CC carry their gun into the Marijuana dispensary.

I still wonder who's car was in the street. They are on a frontage road off a highway where everyone drives like shit. It's on the other side of the guard rail.
 
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Guys, guys! I figured out how to get out of a DUI! Don't drink and drive! Who'd a thunk it?

Talk about being stupid...

I clearly posted actual real stories of folks getting arrested and brutalized by the police when they were completely innocent and were not in any way drunk and the police actually had the proof in their hands that they were not drinking.

Yet the vile evil police who are all puffed up with power thanks to all the stupid "oppress them harder" blathering from the "good folks" licking their boots.

So yes the police know you are innocent but they are still going to make your life hell, brutalize you, damage your property, subject you to all kinds of indignities and make you pay thousands of dollars and possibly suffer all kinds of other suffering and then just laugh in your face and sing "we've got qualified immunity" as they wag their tiny dicks in your face.
 
Talk about being stupid...

I clearly posted actual real stories of folks getting arrested and brutalized by the police when they were completely innocent and were not in any way drunk and the police actually had the proof in their hands that they were not drinking.

Yet the vile evil police who are all puffed up with power thanks to all the stupid "oppress them harder" blathering from the "good folks" licking their boots.

So yes the police know you are innocent but they are still going to make your life hell, brutalize you, damage your property, subject you to all kinds of indignities and make you pay thousands of dollars and possibly suffer all kinds of other suffering and then just laugh in your face and sing "we've got qualified immunity" as they wag their tiny dicks in your face.
You do know there are police depts that put a percentage of the moneys made from the DUI into the officers retirement fund don't you.
Clearwater, FL is one.
 
You know how not to killed by the CCP in China? Be good little Lemming and do what you are told. Being the law doesn't make right.

They did not have to choose a number but when they did it was .1 before .08.

How many DUI's have you given out and/or how much money/bonus have made from current DUI laws?
Cops do not get bonuses or cash payments for DUI arrests. Whoever told you that is hugely mistaken.

Some cops get salary, some get hourly. So, in my state, overtime is anything over 40 hours in a week. But that is not a bonus. That is pay for taking care of public danger who could have killed me or one of my friends or family when he could be home with his or her family.

Salary can be up to 60 hours a week.

The DUI laws are there to protect people and comparing to China is, IMO, a false equivalency in this matter. It is the sign of a weak argument.

Now, cue the ensuing ad hominems...
 
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Cops do not get bonuses or cash payments for DUI arrests. Whoever told you that is hugely mistaken.

Some cops get salary, some get hourly. So, in my state, overtime is anything over 40 hours in a week. But that is not a bonus. That is pay for taking care of public danger who could have killed me or one of my friends or family when he could be home with his or her family.

Salary can be up to 60 hours a week.

The DUI laws are there to protect people and comparing to China is, IMO, a false equivalency in this matter. It is the sign of a weak argument.

Now, cue the ensuing ad hominems...
Actually they do get bonuses giving out DUIs in some places. They also get paid "overtime" here for doing DUI patrols. That was anytime they wanted to work between 10pm and 6am was paid double time.

Protect people. 🤣🤣🤣 you should have Polyanna for your avatar.
 
Actually they do get bonuses giving out DUIs in some places. They also get paid "overtime" here for doing DUI patrols. That was anytime they wanted to work between 10pm and 6am was paid double time.

Protect people. 🤣🤣🤣 you should have Polyanna for your avatar.
I had to Google Polyanna.

Now that I know.....agreed!
 
I will bet dollars to donuts shooter had no CC.

Nodding and seemingly taunting the big fella doesn't look good.

Why is audio removed from the second video? Where is the beginning of the first video? Was big dude from the silver SUV parked in the street?

When did this happen? It is not normal to see so many coats and hats in Pue town in mid summer.

No matter what your butt hurt level, you don't put hands on someone. That would be fucking around, and we all know what happens when you fuck around.

I will have to text some friends when its more time they might wake up. I might remember hearing about this, and possibly know someone who knows the man being referred to as "fat fuck."

+1 to beanies and parkas. And is that grandma’s old accord with some rims? 😂 Driver kept calling the big fella “sir”. Seriously 😂.

The big fella seems to be alluding to the shooter saying he was gonna knock him out. Not sure that really matters. I’d also like to know what the driver moved the Mexican out of the way to grab. Another weapon in the back seat? Whatever it was he quit going for it the minute those shots started. Looks like a couple of milk toast wannabe gangsters stumbled into an actual fight, ran out of herbal courage, and the one from the broken home went hot.