Rifle Scopes Burris XTR3!!!

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wjm308 said:
Where are you seeing $1589 at Optics Planet? I just looked it up and I see $1699 for the 3.3-18 and $1799 for the 5.5-30
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Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane (FFP), Color: Black, Tube Diameter: 34 mm w/ Free Shipping — 2 models

Shop Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane (FFP) | 5 Star Rating on 7 Reviews for Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane...
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Plus their additional 11% off code makes the 3-18 scr2 now 1557+tax and the 5-30 scr2 is 1646+tax, the non scr2 reticles are 50 bucks cheaper.
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Also, remember, based on your cookies OP will vary the pricing to try and entice you. Looking at them on your phone may be different pricing than when you are on your computer.

Edit: And here it is on my phone for even cheaper- 1485 before taxes
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wjm308 said:
That is the one, can you provide the link please
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www.opticsplanet.com

Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane (FFP), Color: Black, Tube Diameter: 34 mm w/ Free Shipping — 2 models

Shop Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane (FFP) | 5 Star Rating on 7 Reviews for Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane...
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Put in code work7 for 5% off

sounds like @spife7980 has a better code.
 
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spife7980 said:
Also, remember, based on your cookies OP will vary the pricing to try and entice you. Looking at them on your phone may be different pricing than when you are on your computer.
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Well that makes it very confusing spife.

So if you use the link from 2aBaCa (hopefully forthcoming) and the Coupon 11SALE are you telling me the price from OP will be $1589 plus another 11% off for a total of $1414?

Again, these seem "too good to be true", can anyone verify? And guys, please realize I am not saying you are wrong, I'm just wanting to get verification and provide links and codes, etc. so that other Hide members can capitalize on the deal, but if you are wrong or misunderstood then we need to know that as well.
 
#805
2aBaCa said:
www.opticsplanet.com

Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane (FFP), Color: Black, Tube Diameter: 34 mm w/ Free Shipping — 2 models

Shop Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane (FFP) | 5 Star Rating on 7 Reviews for Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm Rifle Scope, 34mm Tube, First Focal Plane...
www.opticsplanet.com www.opticsplanet.com

Put in code work7 for 5% off

sounds like @spife7980 has a better code.
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That link takes me to the same page with $1699 price???
 
#806
wjm308 said:
Well that makes it very confusing spife.

So if you use the link from 2aBaCa (hopefully forthcoming) and the Coupon 11SALE are you telling me the price from OP will be $1589 plus another 11% off for a total of $1414?

Again, these seem "too good to be true", can anyone verify? And guys, please realize I am not saying you are wrong, I'm just wanting to get verification and provide links and codes, etc. so that other Hide members can capitalize on the deal, but if you are wrong or misunderstood then we need to know that as well.
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No special link, just the normal items page + code 11sale


3-18
https://www.opticsplanet.com/burris-xtreme-tactical-xtr-iii-scopes.html
1669 list price -184 (11% with 11sale code)= 1485 w/o tax
1485+118.83tax = 1604 w/ tax
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5-30
https://www.opticsplanet.com/burris-5-5-30x56mm-xtreme-tactical-xtr-iii-scopes.html
1789 list price -197 (11% with 11sale code)= 1592 w/o tax
1592+127.38 tax = 1719 w/ tax
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I really miss when OP didnt hit me with tax
 
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#808
No need to derail the thread further. I am not looking for a deal personally, I am wrapping up my review of the 3.3-18x50 and have found it to be a fantastic scope for the money.
 
#810
People are crazy if they're selling for $1500....you're spending your time to literally make no money after shipping. The margins on the XTRIII are not amazing, although I'm assuming the big dogs get a better deal than me.
 
#813
Tyler Kemp said:
People are crazy if they're selling for $1500....you're spending your time to literally make no money after shipping. The margins on the XTRIII are not amazing, although I'm assuming the big dogs get a better deal than me.
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At those prices they are selling below MAP. I guess Burris isn't concerned or just hasn't caught it yet. I got my personal scope today. At $1850 MAP price, i don't think there is anything better. If people find them cheaper, buy it. I have a few on order that will collect dust before i sell them lower than the MAP.
 
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I didn't mean to start a whole pricing fued lol. I just was a little disheartened after making my first big boy scope purchase and seeing the price drop so much so quickly (I knew it would happen eventually). Maybe I was mistaken to the extent of the drop, but either way we should get back on track here.
 
#815
Birddog6424 said:
I actually have some input on this. In digging into the scope sent back to Greeley by @khuber84 , I had a lengthy conversation with the sales manager for Burris. We were trying to determine the status of his scope and why he hadn't received a call back. We knew it was checked in, but then it went quiet.

We actually discovered an engineer had grabbed it from whatever shelf it was on and started troubleshooting it before it was entered into the system that keeps track of its progress. So there was essentially, no record of its status.

The good news is that it got worked on quickly, and Monday morning they had determined what it was doing. So they decided to send Khuber a new scope.

I think they are working hard to step up their game for the XTR3. This is the busiest two months of the year for Burris, and they dont have a massive staff like some bigger optic manufacturers. I think they are grabbing these scopes up and trying their best to handle these service issues quickly. Time spent emailing and calling customers takes significant time away from repairing and sending out scopes. There aren't dozens of people in these departments. With a couple fellas out for hunting season there is less than a handful.

I would agree with you fellas that a return call or email would be appreciated. I'll forward it as an issue. Hopefully at the end of the day they are able to effectively clear up the issue and everyone gets a good functioning optic in hand.
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I appreciate that. I didn't want to make a big fuss about it, it just rubbed me a tad wrong to not get a personal response given the circumstance. But like I said, the actual handling of my issue couldn't have been better.
 
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I'm sitting trying to decide between the XTR 3 in 3-18 and Vortex Razor Gen II 3-18. This is going a 22" 6.5 CM gas gun. This is my first long range gun/optic period so pretty much a giant noob. Trying to decide if Illumination is worth getting as I would like to hunt at some point but not sure if its the deciding factor over the XTR 3. Can anyone help me out and let me know which way I should fall? The cost between the two makes it a non-factor. I can also swing the higher mag of both if that makes way more sense.

Scope choices have completely frozen me.
 
#817
GreySix said:
I'm sitting trying to decide between the XTR 3 in 3-18 and Vortex Razor Gen II 3-18. This is going a 22" 6.5 CM gas gun. This is my first long range gun/optic period so pretty much a giant noob. Trying to decide if Illumination is worth getting as I would like to hunt at some point but not sure if its the deciding factor over the XTR 3. Can anyone help me out and let me know which way I should fall? The cost between the two makes it a non-factor. I can also swing the higher mag of both if that makes way more sense.

Scope choices have completely frozen me.
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I personally have never used illumination. Both are good options. Both have good turrets, clear glass, great reticle options, and warranty's. I love the eye relief and eye box on the Burris. The vortex isn't far behind though. I chose the Burris because it is American made and i am very pleased with my decision.
 
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GreySix said:
I'm sitting trying to decide between the XTR 3 in 3-18 and Vortex Razor Gen II 3-18. This is going a 22" 6.5 CM gas gun. This is my first long range gun/optic period so pretty much a giant noob. Trying to decide if Illumination is worth getting as I would like to hunt at some point but not sure if its the deciding factor over the XTR 3. Can anyone help me out and let me know which way I should fall? The cost between the two makes it a non-factor. I can also swing the higher mag of both if that makes way more sense.

Scope choices have completely frozen me.
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I'd definitely reccomend the XTRIII, especially for a hunting rig since it's much lighter.
And an illuminated model should be out soon next year. I'm thinking about picking up a 3-18 for that purpose when they drop.

As I've posted previously, I love my 5.5-30
 
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GreySix said:
I'm sitting trying to decide between the XTR 3 in 3-18 and Vortex Razor Gen II 3-18. This is going a 22" 6.5 CM gas gun. This is my first long range gun/optic period so pretty much a giant noob. Trying to decide if Illumination is worth getting as I would like to hunt at some point but not sure if its the deciding factor over the XTR 3. Can anyone help me out and let me know which way I should fall? The cost between the two makes it a non-factor. I can also swing the higher mag of both if that makes way more sense.

Scope choices have completely frozen me.
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I have both. If you don’t mind the extra weight, want illumination and a more useable reticle under 10x, plus the best warranty service in the business, go Vortex. Really, for what the AMGs are going for right now that might be the best option in that price range if you want a lighter option from Vortex. When I get my 3-18 back from Burris I will probably keep it, but I think there are other scopes out there that could fit the bill as well.
 
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shields shtr said:
I have both. If you don’t mind the extra weight, want illumination and a more useable reticle under 10x, plus the best warranty service in the business, go Vortex. Really, for what the AMGs are going for right now that might be the best option in that price range if you want a lighter option from Vortex. When I get my 3-18 back from Burris I will probably keep it, but I think there are other scopes out there that could fit the bill as well.
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Keep in mind the amg is a 30mm tube, so you have less adjustment and the XTRIII has a better fov.
 
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I've been debating the XTRIII, Mark 5HD, and a Vortex Razor Gen2 over the last couple days. I probably blew it by missing all the good sales but not trying to rush out and snag an optic that I probably won't touch before early 2020 anyway. Probably going to snag an XTR3 after all the reading I did. I just need to see if the XTR3 is going to be released with Illumination at SHOT and what the price point is going to be before finally pulling the trigger. Thanks to all for the comments and feedback and those that went and bought scopes and wrote up their experiences!
 
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tam4511 said:
Keep in mind the amg is a 30mm tube, so you have less adjustment and the XTRIII has a better fov.
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AMG does have less adjustment range at around 27 mrad, but that is still sufficient for most needs. XTR3 has 35 mrad of adjustment in the 50mm model and 26 in the 56mm.

FOV when on the same magnification is the same between AMG and XTR3.

ILya
 
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koshkin said:
AMG does have less adjustment range at around 27 mrad, but that is still sufficient for most needs. XTR3 has 35 mrad of adjustment in the 50mm model and 26 in the 56mm.

FOV when on the same magnification is the same between AMG and XTR3.

ILya
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Not trying to be difficult sir but when I asked Vortex what was the FOV for my AMG at 6 power they told me around 20 feet. I am finding this optic challenging at rapid close in hunting. The 3.3 x 18 Buriss looks interesting. The 3 x 18 Kahles serves me very well but at a steep price difference.

R/
Chris
 
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#826
CBDR said:
Not trying to be difficult sir but when I asked Vortex what was the FOV for my AMG at 6 power they told me around 20 feet. I am finding this optic challenging at rapid close in hunting. The 3.3 x 18 Buriss looks interesting. The 3 x 18 Kahles serves me very well but at a steep price difference.

R/
Chris
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No worries. I can do difficult...

Note, that I specifically said "when at the same magnification". AMG has 20.4ft FOV at 100 yards on 6x. XTR III 3.3-18x50 based on Burris' published specs has the exact same 20.4ft FOV at 100 yards. Now, XTR3 can be dialed down to lower magnification which will give you a wider FOV, but at the same magnification, they will look about the same.

ILya
 
#827
CBDR said:
Not trying to be difficult sir but when I asked Vortex what was the FOV for my AMG at 6 power they told me around 20 feet. I am finding this optic challenging at rapid close in hunting. The 3.3 x 18 Buriss looks interesting. The 3 x 18 Kahles serves me very well but at a steep price difference.

R/
Chris
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FOV AT 100M on low power = 2=
Once again I'm not trying to call out the Dark Lord of optics. Actually playing with the idea of dumping my AMG for another lower powered short optic that would serve me well paired with a PVS-30.
 
#828
CBDR said:
FOV AT 100M on low power = 2=
Once again I'm not trying to call out the Dark Lord of optics. Actually playing with the idea of dumping my AMG for another lower powered short optic that would serve me well paired with a PVS-30.
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No need to feel apologetic. I am here to have a discussion. If everyone always agreed, it would be no fun.

See my post above.

ILya
 
#829
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koshkin said:
No worries. I can do difficult...

Note, that I specifically said "when at the same magnification". AMG has 20.4ft FOV at 100 yards on 6x. XTR III 3.3-18x50 based on Burris' published specs has the exact same 20.4ft FOV at 100 yards. Now, XTR3 can be dialed down to lower magnification which will give you a wider FOV, but at the same magnification, they will look about the same.

ILya
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Understood. If I can find another way to reproduce my Ultra Short S&B results or Kahles 3 x 18 without having to sell one of my organs that would be great. Last question. How long is this Buriss?
 
#831
CBDR said:
Un

Understood. If I can find another way to reproduce my Ultra Short S&B results or Kahles 3 x 18 without having to sell one of my organs that would be great. Last question. How long is this Buriss?
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13.3"

I have only seen the prototype of the XTR3, but I really liked what I saw. I expect it to be an excellent design. WHen the illuminated version comes out, I will do a full test.

As far as reproducing your results from really fancy scopes, I can suggest another really fancy scope: TT315M. Still one of my favourites, along with the 3-24x52 March.

With less expensive scopes, interestingly, Vortex PST Gen 2 3-15x44 has a suprisingly nice view and the FOV at the same magnification is about the same as XTR3 and AMG.

ILya
 
#834
Birddog6424 said:
I'm not sure what the AMG lists on paper, but with both scopes on 20x the Burris had .5 or .6 more reticle per side. That might be off by a little. It's been a couple months since I compared. That was one of the first scopes I put my 30x alongside. But the Burris was a bigger FOV.

The closest optic I have seen so far to matching the FOV of the Burris is the 20x NX8. On 20x the Burris only beat it by .2 per side.
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I am going off of the listed specs for XTR3 3.3-18x50 and AMG 6-24x50. Keep in mind that magnification rings on riflescopes are almost always marked incorrectly.

I did exact measurements on a bunch of fancy scopes and the markings are not exact. See attached plot.

ILya
 

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koshkin said:
I am going off of the listed specs for XTR3 3.3-18x50 and AMG 6-24x50. Keep in mind that magnification rings on riflescopes are almost always marked incorrectly.

I did exact measurements on a bunch of fancy scopes and the markings are not exact. See attached plot.

ILya
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That graph would indicated the relationship between FOV and magnification is not linear, is that correct?
The MX7i seems to have better or worse FOV than tsngent theta depending on magnification.
 
#837
beetroot said:
Is there a formula you know of that can calculate FOV for a given magnification based on the lowest and highest mag FOV?
Obviously things like scope tunneling will effect such a formula.
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In absence of tunnelling, scaling it off of the highest magnification gets you very close. For example, if the scope is 5-20x50 with reasonably constant eye relief, FOV on 10x is twice that of 20x.

Ilya
 
#840
Really want to order the 5.5-30x SCR2, can get it for $1700 otd and I’m not hear to get into another price pissing match.
I’m trying to justify the jump from a XTR2 3-15x on a 24” 6.5CM shooting 140gr ELDM at 2815fps, just shooting steel to 1k.
I’m telling myself of course it’s worth it you fool but at the same time I want to build a shorty lightweight .243 or 6CM for coyote hunting. Decisions decisions.
 
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Wormydog1724 said:
Really want to order the 5.5-30x SCR2, can get it for $1700 otd and I’m not hear to get into another price pissing match.
I’m trying to justify the jump from a XTR2 3-15x on a 24” 6.5CM shooting 140gr ELDM at 2815fps, just shooting steel to 1k.
I’m telling myself of course it’s worth it you fool but at the same time I want to build a shorty lightweight .243 or 6CM for coyote hunting. Decisions decisions.
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I upgraded from. A XTRII to a XTRIII and as much as I loved the XTRII, the III is improved by miles in every single way. You won't regret it.
 
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