Rifle Scopes Burris XTR3!!!

[D_TROS]

I love thin retc and my wife doesnt like them. That being said her last deer and antyelope were both taken with a 3-18. one on high power LR shot (410 yards) and one at point blank (50yds)

she nvr complained about not being able to see the retc.


everyones eyes are diff. but this is a killer package more for FOV for my wife than anything. it will be used for my son when he hunts fo the first time next yr.

Wifes public land Muley this yr. taken with 3-18 scr2

GL
DT

 

[Chickentoast]

I picked one up - FOV and thin reticle are the distinguishing features at the price point. I like the center cross over a dot - use the top of the cross as my aiming point, just as precise as a dot, but more usable for judging misses, and essentially becomes a dot at lower mag.

 

[schockley]

Does anyone care to offer a comparison of the XTR3 to the current generation Cronus? I have a Cronus and it’s fine, but for the sake of discussion.

 

[Chasing3]

I liked my Burris XTR3 3-18, bought used for good deal. I sold and sad I did.

 

[D_TROS]

Does anyone care to offer a comparison of the XTR3 to the current generation Cronus? I have a Cronus and it’s fine, but for the sake of discussion.

MADE IN AMERICA > made in cheena



God Bless
DT

 

[schockley]

Made in USA is a factor, but the Cronus is made in Japan.

 

[Protondecay123]

What about lowering the MSRP on the Manufacturers website so they could be used in PRS Production Class? You can buy them off the Burris website for less than 2k but the MSRP is listed as $2149.

 

[McMillan]

Does anyone care to offer a comparison of the XTR3 to the current generation Cronus? I have a Cronus and it’s fine, but for the sake of discussion.

the xtr 3 from what I've seen has it beat in every single way. Way better field of view. More elevation. Better eye box. better glass(this is only from people comparing the cronus glass to a gen 2 razor and then me comparing xtr3 glass to a gen 2 razor). Made in USA. Basicly better everything. Only part that's equal is the warranty

What about lowering the MSRP on the Manufacturers website so they could be used in PRS Production Class? You can buy them off the Burris website for less than 2k but the MSRP is listed as $2149.

I think this is burrises stupidest mistake as it remove a a whole market even if it's not a huge market.
Edit. Seems it does fit into production class now

 

[jzerfoss]

 

[Glassaholic]

^^^ About time!!! All of us know the Mfr's list prices no one would ever pay. Not sure how many actually compete in the "Production" division but this is good news nonetheless.

 

[Glassaholic]

I was offering to help,, that was all.. No one needed me to make a call for them. For the handful of issues that presented themselves out of the first batch of 200 to 400 XTR3s that left Colorado, Burris resolved them all with the customers without any help from me.

And for any one paying attention, those posts were 6 months ago, there hasn't been a single issue with the XTR3 since. I've seen nothing but positive feedback for months now. It's a hell of a nice scope, the people that are buying them like it.

For what it's worth, I was one of the ones who got a sub-par XTR III in that first batch; however, Burris took care of me in less than a week and got me a brand new scope that was outstanding optically. Not too long ago I saw a great deal in the classifieds on a 5.5-30 and decided it was time to replace my PST II 5-25 on my trainer hoping the XTR III would exceed my expectations, so I purchased a used XTR III that has been phenomenal so far, the scope is punching above its class with regard to optical quality. So having had both a 3.3-18x50 and now the 5.5-30x56 I can say these scopes represent the best glass I've seen at this price and magnification (I haven't tried everything but I've tried quite a few). My only gripe is for Burris to get illumination to market asap.

 

[Long Range 338]

I love thin retc and my wife doesnt like them. That being said her last deer and antyelope were both taken with a 3-18. one on high power LR shot (410 yards) and one at point blank (50yds)

she nvr complained about not being able to see the retc.


everyones eyes are diff. but this is a killer package more for FOV for my wife than anything. it will be used for my son when he hunts fo the first time next yr.

Wifes public land Muley this yr. taken with 3-18 scr2

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GL
DT

You must be mistaken, you can't hunt with the XTR3 and that reticle! Its been repeated about a hundred times in this thread. Glad to see you were able to use the XTR3 for hunting and prove the naysayers wrong. Awesome buck to boot! Congrats.

 

[Long Range 338]

For what it's worth, I was one of the ones who got a sub-par XTR III in that first batch; however, Burris took care of me in less than a week and got me a brand new scope that was outstanding optically. Not too long ago I saw a great deal in the classifieds on a 5.5-30 and decided it was time to replace my PST II 5-25 on my trainer hoping the XTR III would exceed my expectations, so I purchased a used XTR III that has been phenomenal so far, the scope is punching above its class with regard to optical quality. So having had both a 3.3-18x50 and now the 5.5-30x56 I can say these scopes represent the best glass I've seen at this price and magnification (I haven't tried everything but I've tried quite a few). My only gripe is for Burris to get illumination to market asap.

Maybe its just because its exterior reminds me of the Nightforce but IMO the XTR3 is a Nightforce killer if anybody is really looking. The Burris has clean lines, great features and glass, and feels very high quality even compared to Tier 1 optics - however I wouldn't put it in the same class as the Alpha stuff. The only complaints I'm seeing are the lack of illumination but honestly that's a feature I have yet to need in a scope. For those concerned about the thin reticle I guess it could make the difference.

 

[Glassaholic]

I killed 3 big game animals last year with a broken xtr3 scr2 3.3-18x50 lol still did the job. Wish the replacement scope had the glass and turrets of the faulty original delivery

If the glass is not as good you should send back to Burris, I would have difficulty settling for something I know could be better.

 

[Bangin]

Designed, machined, and assembled does not mean made in America. Leupold says the same thing.

 

[McMillan]

Designed, machined, and assembled does not mean made in America. Leupold says the same thing.

I guess nothing is made in America then. And I gues all those people going to work making things are just imagining that they have a job

 

[Bangin]

Vortex amg minus the reticle.

 

[McMillan]

Vortex amg minus the reticle.

Designed, machined, and assembled does not mean made in America. Vortex says the same thing.

 

[Bangin]

Designed, machined, and assembled does not mean made in America. Vortex says the same thing.

huh... mine says made in the USA right on the scope

 

[BytorJr]

For what it's worth, I was one of the ones who got a sub-par XTR III in that first batch; however, Burris took care of me in less than a week and got me a brand new scope that was outstanding optically. Not too long ago I saw a great deal in the classifieds on a 5.5-30 and decided it was time to replace my PST II 5-25 on my trainer hoping the XTR III would exceed my expectations, so I purchased a used XTR III that has been phenomenal so far, the scope is punching above its class with regard to optical quality. So having had both a 3.3-18x50 and now the 5.5-30x56 I can say these scopes represent the best glass I've seen at this price and magnification (I haven't tried everything but I've tried quite a few). My only gripe is for Burris to get illumination to market asap.

These would get serious attention by me if the illumination was present. But I've got 2 scopes without it and really wish the had illumination. Granted, they are LHRS's but the point being for 1800+ illumination should be "standard."

 

[opeagle]

Someone who knows more will likely chime in, but Burris / Steiner was reportedly doing some manufacturing in Greely, Colorado.

 

[D_TROS]

Designed, machined, and assembled does not mean made in America. Leupold says the same thing.

Someone who knows more will likely chime in, but Burris / Steiner was reportedly doing some manufacturing in Greely, Colorado.

The XTR 3 is designed, machined, assembled in Greely, CO. I live 30 min away and have been there. Ive seen em put together from solid bar stock to testing in the clean room. The only part not American is the lens. They qualify legally to advertise all over the box MADE IN USA but chose not to as Karens such as yourself get off on nit picking BS.

Some people like supporting US companies and US workers. Some like buying China/Jap crap cause they save $3. Take your soapbox elsewhere.
Even IF they were assembled in USA with all foreign parts that would be enough to support an American company over import scopes. Luckily this scope is Made in good ol America.

I also wholly support the AMG scope. Awesome little hunting package but this is a XTR 3 thread. BUT if you want to compare 2 USA MADE SCOPES that would be a good discussion.


GL
DT

 

[Bangin]

The XTR 3 is designed, machined, assembled in Greely, CO. I live 30 min away and have been there. Ive seen em put together from solid bar stock to testing in the clean room. The only part not American is the lens. They qualify legally to advertise all over the box MADE IN USA but chose not to as Karens such as yourself get off on nit picking BS.

Some people like supporting US companies and US workers. Some like buying China/Jap crap cause they save $3. Take your soapbox elsewhere.
Even IF they were assembled in USA with all foreign parts that would be enough to support an American company over import scopes. Luckily this scope is Made in good ol America.

I also wholly support the AMG scope. Awesome little hunting package but this is a XTR 3 thread. BUT if you want to compare 2 USA MADE SCOPES that would be a good discussion.


GL
DT

Ha no soap box. Im not saying they don’t support American jobs. That’s great. I’m not saying it’s a bad scope nor did I say don’t buy the scope. Designed, manufactured and assembled is lawyer talk. I feel like I read that @lowlight toured Burris and leupold and he didn’t see what you saw. Sorry I hurt your feelings.

 

[Long Range 338]

Designed, machined, and assembled does not mean made in America. Leupold says the same thing.

Sounds like you trying to shit up a thread to me.... Don't worry about my feelings, I couldn't care less about yours. Or your thoughts on Made in America/not Made in America.

 

[Bangin]

Sounds like you trying to shit up a thread to me.... Don't worry about my feelings, I couldn't care less about yours. Or your thoughts on Made in America/not Made in America.

Like wise

 

[opeagle]

This is one of the problems we have, people posting about things they don’t know anything about. Other people jump in to show some semblance of facts. An argument ensues.

Get back to posting things you know about, and the level of intelligent content will rise. Otherwise take this shit to the Bearpit.

 

[schockley]

Yeah, but does it have a zero stop?

 

[xpshooter]

They are redesigning it. We hope to hear announcements soon about the zero stop models. Hopefully they come to market in 2021.

Good thing they're redesigning the zero stop, way to simple now. Maybe if we could get serious about design changes, a illuminated reticle would make this scope about perfect for me.

 

[Chickentoast]

Illuminating the ret is going to thicken it up according to Birddoggy. That's why I jumped on the non-illuminated version. I even find it a bit thick at 30X, but I can still see a pussyhair at 25yds... and smell one from 100

 

[never_summer]

THIS POST IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS.

Been using my 5.5-30 on a 223 trainer. Don't understand the want for a zero stop as I've got mine setup for turning past zero as an indicator/ zero stop. The turrets are actually really nice, prefer them over my gen 2 razor I had, and like the capped windage side turret. Zoom ring seemed tight without the throw lever but with the mkmaching throw lever its about perfect. The eyebox is very forgiving and the field of view is nice. There seems like some barrel distortion when moving my head around but is only noticed if not aligned behind the scope. I tend to shoot mostly on 15x-18x but find myself trying to take advantage of 30x more than I thought I would. At 30x it is still very easy to get behind, but prefer the image with the magnification run a little lower. The parallax I find myself tuning a bit but that is compared to my Minox zp5 and will probably get better the more familiar I get with it. The reticle thickness and design (SCR2) is about perfect, would prefer it in my Minox, and never have used or had the need for illumination. I will try to get some comparison pictures next time I get to the range between it, my Minox and a 3-18x razor gen 2 to compare. Overall pretty happy with the scope

 

[McMillan]

I'm confused about how people are saying there is no zero stop. Are you in aware that the turret works as a zero stop?

 

[sleeplz]

I'm confused about how people are saying there is no zero stop. Are you in aware that the turret works as a zero stop?

Can you explain, does the turret stop you from spinning under zero?

 

[xpshooter]

after zeroing the scope you loosen the turret and line up the zero on the line and push the turret down till it touches the scope base and retighten the screws. You could reset the zero and leave the turret up a little so you could dial down if you wanted.

 

[McMillan]

Can you explain, does the turret stop you from spinning under zero?

It sure does. Zero your rifle then undo the the turret, push it all the way down while lining the zero up and do the turret up. It works as a perfect zero stop and doesn't take any dicking around like many others do.

 

[beetroot]

after zeroing the scope you loosen the turret and line up the zero on the line and push the turret down till it touches the scope base and retighten the screws. You could reset the zero and leave the turret up a little so you could dial down if you wanted.

Does the zero stop allow for a small amount of travel past zero or is the ZS a hard stop at zero?

When zeroing the scope and you need to dial down further than the ZS, I assume you just do the opposite and pull the turret up a little bit?

 

[Trigger Monkey]

It's a hard stop at zero. If you need to go below the zero stop during sight in you can raise the knob up a little after loosening the set screws up and bypass the zero stop.

 

[Sogan]

Any closer to illumination yet?

 

[beetroot]

@Birddog6424 or anyone else.
Can you tell me the height the erector bump protrudes below the tube, if you know what I mean.

In other words, how much clearance would be needed from the bottom of the erector bump to the top of a picatinny rail?

 

[beetroot]

Thats going to clear with any ring on the market. Its such a small difference.

I'd like to know if it'd work with the lowest height Eratac mount. I bought one recently to find out that is wouldn't fit my Delta Stryker.
Seems unlikely that the XTR3 would fit, but don't know for certain without knowing the measurement.

 

[Jigstick]

Bump

anyone running one of these on a gas gun? Curious if you’re liking it still.

 

[D_TROS]

Bump

anyone running one of these on a gas gun? Curious if you’re liking it still.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCOPES ive ever used on a gasser. the FOV makes it a cinch going from target to target.


gl
dt

 

[RFutch]

Can anyone compare these to an SWFA SS 5-20? Does the glass blow away the SS or is it just a little better?

 

[Jigstick]

ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCOPES ive ever used on a gasser. the FOV makes it a cinch going from target to target.


gl
dt

what height mount are you using on your AR10 with the XTR3? I’d like to keep it hugged to the rail as low as possible.

 

[supercorndogs]

The glass in these is pretty darn good. The glass in the SWFA 5-20 is more like the LRHS/LRTS, DMRII, ERS IMO. Everyones eyes are different, but I doubt you will disappointed in the XTRIII. Way better to a little better is pretty subjective. I spent most of the winter hunting, so my XTRIII only got a little play time. It is easy to see bullet marks from my 308 or 223 on white painted plates at 600y with the XTRIII. The glass is only the half of it. My only complaint, I wish they wouldn't have made such an aggressive tread pattern for their power ring and turrets. Seems kind of cheesey and like it wont wear well. I.E finish damage. Small potatoes. I don't mind it. Just nit picking at stuff. "I would change this, I would change that." Yea, go start your own scope company supercorndorkski

 

[Jack's Dad]

I've spent a fair bit of time behind the big xtr iii. It doesn't give up much to my minox zp5. Minox better for sure but not a ton.

 

[RFutch]

The glass in these is pretty darn good. The glass in the SWFA 5-20 is more like the LRHS/LRTS, DMRII, ERS IMO. Everyones eyes are different, but I doubt you will disappointed in the XTRIII. Way better to a little better is pretty subjective. I spent most of the winter hunting, so my XTRIII only got a little play time. It is easy to see bullet marks from my 308 or 223 on white painted plates at 600y with the XTRIII. The glass is only the half of it. My only complaint, I wish they wouldn't have made such an aggressive tread pattern for their power ring and turrets. Seems kind of cheesey and like it wont wear well. I.E finish damage. Small potatoes. I don't mind it. Just nit picking at stuff. "I would change this, I would change that." Yea, go start your own scope company supercorndorkski

The glass in these is pretty darn good. The glass in the SWFA 5-20 is more like the LRHS/LRTS, DMRII, ERS IMO. Everyones eyes are different, but I doubt you will disappointed in the XTRIII. Way better to a little better is pretty subjective. I spent most of the winter hunting, so my XTRIII only got a little play time. It is easy to see bullet marks from my 308 or 223 on white painted plates at 600y with the XTRIII. The glass is only the half of it. My only complaint, I wish they wouldn't have made such an aggressive tread pattern for their power ring and turrets. Seems kind of cheesey and like it wont wear well. I.E finish damage. Small potatoes. I don't mind it. Just nit picking at stuff. "I would change this, I would change that." Yea, go start your own scope company supercorndorkski

I’ve got the SS on my Valkyrie bolt gun right now and I’m wanting something better. Hard to spot misses at 1k with the 22 cal so I want to upgrade. I wish I could swing another atacr but I can’t get there. Thanks for the reply.

 

[D_TROS]

what height mount are you using on your AR10 with the XTR3? I’d like to keep it hugged to the rail as low as possible.

i have the PEPR mount Burris sells. The website says 1.35" which sounds right. I know it is as close to the rail as I have seen. Decent gap with a 50mm obj (id say 1/4" maybe iirc) but with a 56mm obj it is very huggy to the rail lol.

GL
DT

 

[Chickentoast]

I’ve got the SS on my Valkyrie bolt gun right now and I’m wanting something better. Hard to spot misses at 1k with the 22 cal so I want to upgrade. I wish I could swing another atacr but I can’t get there. Thanks for the reply.

I was doing almost exactly that last weekend - spotting misses for a buddy's 223 at ~940. XTR3 is value.

 

[YF12A]

To all here, you have really helped me make my mind up. My old eyes really need upgrades to better glass on my rigs and it looks like this Burris will do what I need. TT and ZCO are just out of reach with my other addictions, was thinking about a Minox but I can swing 2 of the XTRIII's for just a little more coin. Also would like to standardize my scopes more. Thanks again to the Hide members.

Fred

 

[Totoro]

If/when Burris releases the XTR3 lumed, I will consider one.