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- Thread starter Foul Mike
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Yeah I really want to live in that apocalyptic scene unarmed, unable to defend myself.
Good argument why we 2A right there.
I thought PG&E was the enemy of the left........I mean Erin Brokovich for JC sake....
In skimming the comments, and to some degree here to - it is hard for people to understand the unpredictability of such fires. Nor do people seem to understand the speed at which they travel (esp in steep terrain), crowning fire (where its in the tops of trees), and that big fires make their own wind. Ground flame + tree top flame + burning ash + ambient wind + fire driven wind. Add to that the inability to access much of it except on foot or by water tanker. Its nothing like a fire in a flat field of grass land.
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On the bright side, my kraft marshmallows stocks are doing very well.
Notice how Brown aint calling Trump a racist or blaming him for this fire now, he wants money, fuking Trump best not give them a dime.
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/vid...r-secretary-zinke-tour-camp-fire-destruction/
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/vid...r-secretary-zinke-tour-camp-fire-destruction/
It'll be like when pooty-poot-poot met with Trump. Somebody will be giving a blowjob for cash (or other considerations), and we may never know who...
Here what it still looks like at my house 200 miles away 11-15
The road in the image is fairly straight- but now you can only see a few hundred yards. Normally I would see the redwoods above these oaks, clear as a bell. Now it looks like sky
The road in the image is fairly straight- but now you can only see a few hundred yards. Normally I would see the redwoods above these oaks, clear as a bell. Now it looks like sky
Glad that's been cleared up (or has it?).
https://www.weeklystandard.com/holm...rted-by-the-u-s-government-using-space-lasers
https://www.weeklystandard.com/holm...rted-by-the-u-s-government-using-space-lasers
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Can't believe how many people haven't tossed thousands of beer/soda cans into a camp fire over their lifetimes.
Notice the sheet metal is fine. It's the aluminum, plastic, rubber, etc that melted. Aluminum melts at a temperature roughly double that of lead, which melts if you look at it long enough. The temps coming off the shit burning around would easily reach more than a quarter higher of the temps needed to melt aluminum. That's in a modest case. I'd expect temps from a roaring inferno to reach into the low 2000s, which will fuck aluminum almost instantly.
The government need not play lasertag with abandoned vehicles when the pure ruthless force of lots of burning shit would melt down damn near anything with a melting point below 1500 or so.
Notice the sheet metal is fine. It's the aluminum, plastic, rubber, etc that melted. Aluminum melts at a temperature roughly double that of lead, which melts if you look at it long enough. The temps coming off the shit burning around would easily reach more than a quarter higher of the temps needed to melt aluminum. That's in a modest case. I'd expect temps from a roaring inferno to reach into the low 2000s, which will fuck aluminum almost instantly.
The government need not play lasertag with abandoned vehicles when the pure ruthless force of lots of burning shit would melt down damn near anything with a melting point below 1500 or so.
And Trump prepares to bail these mutherfuckers out with my money, fuck that place and I am beginning not to like the new post election Trump.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...y2qwQsiHvEywqApDJ-ZbIkwi7S_osMIMS5dgm50oDTK6Y
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...y2qwQsiHvEywqApDJ-ZbIkwi7S_osMIMS5dgm50oDTK6Y
remember this scene in Cali????? Not one fucking dime. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...esters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...orter_chased_beaten_by_mob_in_california.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...orter_chased_beaten_by_mob_in_california.html
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The State so worried about labeling every possible carcinogenic for their sheepole is now frantically trying to come up with a warning label that will adhere to smoke.
California has become a f'n political and bureaucratic idiots paradise..... their lack of land management, fire risk prevention and control have dumped more carcinogens into the air than China in the last few years.
Yet they keep spending millions on harboring illegal immigrants and developing harboring sanctuaries...…. while their tax revenue assets are burned to the ground.
Their blatant negligence is beyond comprehension.
California has become a f'n political and bureaucratic idiots paradise..... their lack of land management, fire risk prevention and control have dumped more carcinogens into the air than China in the last few years.
Yet they keep spending millions on harboring illegal immigrants and developing harboring sanctuaries...…. while their tax revenue assets are burned to the ground.
Their blatant negligence is beyond comprehension.
Dude you are an idiot. That is just one of many of you cruel hearted posts you made. A lot of people lost their lives and everything they have and it’s embarrassing to see that garbage posted on this site and see all the thumbs up people gave you.
Not one dime fucktard
The anger you assholes have built up over the decades acting like your shit dont stink, coining the term flyover country, hoisting your brand of communism on us over and over through your culture and media, attacking freedom loving people on every level all the time. over decades, governing your state in a way that is suicidal and damaging to the rest of the country with the sanctuary cities, passing laws that make it impossible to manage forests, which is teh cause of these fires and all the fores in the last two decades at least. Now you are coming to the same people that you attack for decades over and over and expect sympathy.
You hoist people like this upon us at a national level, he is threatening to nuke us,
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/16/eric-swalwell-democratic-lawmaker-warns-gun-owners/
FUCK YOU and your State.
I hope the whole thing burns to the goddamn ground.
The anger you assholes have built up over the decades acting like your shit dont stink, coining the term flyover country, hoisting your brand of communism on us over and over through your culture and media, attacking freedom loving people on every level all the time. over decades, governing your state in a way that is suicidal and damaging to the rest of the country with the sanctuary cities, passing laws that make it impossible to manage forests, which is teh cause of these fires and all the fores in the last two decades at least. Now you are coming to the same people that you attack for decades over and over and expect sympathy.
You hoist people like this upon us at a national level, he is threatening to nuke us,
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/16/eric-swalwell-democratic-lawmaker-warns-gun-owners/
FUCK YOU and your State.
I hope the whole thing burns to the goddamn ground.
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@ArmyJerry Your political opinion is one thing to talk about on here, no big deal. Cali is a very liberal state but your down right malicious remarks about taking pride in those that are suffering is wrong.
I dont have a political opinion I am just showing facts. I care as much about your state as they care about us here in the heartland. If I was a cancer liek your state is my state would be burning every goddamn year now wouldn't it, but not to worry, since we manage this stuff pretty well we are sending our departments up there to help. I dont even know if I am on board with spending that money to help you all because you would not do the same. This is self inflicted and you all let it happen every year, you are the cancer bud. Your state should use this to reflect on what your fellow citizens thing=k of you all.
@ArmyJerry that’s interesting because the county I’m with as well as others in the state sent task forces over for hurricane relief last year. I respect you right to hate the people here in California but please DONT take pleasure in seeing suffering that’s going on here. I would never wish that for anybody.
dude your congress critter just threatened gun owners with a nuke response,
this is a state caused disaster and it happens every year, I am not taking pleasure, I am just letting you know that the rest of the country cares about you all as much as your state cares about us, well we actually care a lot less as you all have been abusing us a long time now, your state is a danger to the Constitution. I dont want you all moving here or visiting here, I wish my governor would stop taking all the business from your state because a lot of you come with it and that is not good for us as you all are a burden, a sniveling entitled pile of burden on the rest of us.
sorry the FU was a bit over board
this is a state caused disaster and it happens every year, I am not taking pleasure, I am just letting you know that the rest of the country cares about you all as much as your state cares about us, well we actually care a lot less as you all have been abusing us a long time now, your state is a danger to the Constitution. I dont want you all moving here or visiting here, I wish my governor would stop taking all the business from your state because a lot of you come with it and that is not good for us as you all are a burden, a sniveling entitled pile of burden on the rest of us.
sorry the FU was a bit over board
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I’ll just leave this here...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Texas_wildfires
47% of all acreage burned in the United States in 2011 was located in Texas.
https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-wildfires#Wildfires by year
Texas ranked first in number of fires in 2017 (9827 fires) and 4th total acres burned (734,682).
Texas is a big, mostly dry, state. It burns a lot- every year.
@ArmyJerry I get it, California is a complete mess, but we are not all granola eating hippies. Didn’t you say you moved out of California in an earlier post? What is the difference if others here in California are looking to get out for a better life?
I was passing through with . mil, you all have screwed up every place you move to, we want you to stay n place and fix what you let get fucked up. If Cali today was like it was in the early 80s I would move there in a heartbeat but man you all are off the rails, beautiful state fallen to the depravity of communism.
Victim states of Cali
Oregon
Washington
Az
Nevada
New Mexico
Austin
You have a Cali congress critter literally threatening gun owners with getting nuked.
I must tell you when I visit I dont feel the affinity that I do with the other 49 states, hell I feel more affinity to residents of Juarez than I do to Cali in recent years.
If Trump gives that state one dime of my fed tax money I will do everything to get rid of him at the next election.
Not one dime.
Its sad but your state put yourselves in this position and are still doubling down, this is what strident Marxists do.
Victim states of Cali
Oregon
Washington
Az
Nevada
New Mexico
Austin
You have a Cali congress critter literally threatening gun owners with getting nuked.
I must tell you when I visit I dont feel the affinity that I do with the other 49 states, hell I feel more affinity to residents of Juarez than I do to Cali in recent years.
If Trump gives that state one dime of my fed tax money I will do everything to get rid of him at the next election.
Not one dime.
Its sad but your state put yourselves in this position and are still doubling down, this is what strident Marxists do.
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yeah funny how that works right, we dont lose hundreds of lives, or thousands of houses every year and can still send FF departments to Cali. This is called management.
2011 Texas had a bad year, Cali has a bad year every year.
Top 10 Costliest Wildland Fires In The United States (1)
($ millions)
Estimated insured lossRankDateName, LocationDollars when occurredIn 2017 dollars (2)
1Oct. 8-20, 2017Atlas Fire, CA(3)(3)
2Oct. 8-20, 2017Tubbs Fire, CA(3)(3)
3Oct. 8-20, 2017Mendocino Lake Fire, CA(3)(3)
4Dec 4 - 23, 2017Thomas Fire, CA(3)(3)
5Oct. 20-21, 1991Oakland Hills Fire, CA$1,700$2,788
6Oct. 21-24, 2007Witch Fire, CA1,3001,517
7Oct. 25-Nov. 4, 2003Cedar Fire, CA1,0601,386
8Oct. 25-Nov. 3, 2003Old Fire, CA9751,275
9Nov. 28-30, 2016Great Smoky Mountains Fire, TN938956
10Sep. 12-14, 2015Valley Fire, CA921949
2011 Texas had a bad year, Cali has a bad year every year.
Top 10 Costliest Wildland Fires In The United States (1)
($ millions)
Estimated insured lossRankDateName, LocationDollars when occurredIn 2017 dollars (2)
1Oct. 8-20, 2017Atlas Fire, CA(3)(3)
2Oct. 8-20, 2017Tubbs Fire, CA(3)(3)
3Oct. 8-20, 2017Mendocino Lake Fire, CA(3)(3)
4Dec 4 - 23, 2017Thomas Fire, CA(3)(3)
5Oct. 20-21, 1991Oakland Hills Fire, CA$1,700$2,788
6Oct. 21-24, 2007Witch Fire, CA1,3001,517
7Oct. 25-Nov. 4, 2003Cedar Fire, CA1,0601,386
8Oct. 25-Nov. 3, 2003Old Fire, CA9751,275
9Nov. 28-30, 2016Great Smoky Mountains Fire, TN938956
10Sep. 12-14, 2015Valley Fire, CA921949
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California, as an entity, is contrary to my way of life to such a degree it could be considered hostile. The leadership of California, and ALL who support it, could be considered my enemy. While many of these folks may share a great deal in common with me, and on any other day, we very well could have a good time shooting the shit together, they, nevertheless, actively contribute to the destruction of the things I value in life. California is GREAT at influencing the systems and processes that enable me to live my life the way I see fit.
I don't want my children getting distracted by sex period, and certainly not the myriad ways you can deviate from natural, wholesome intercourse which occurs in the endeavor to procreate and preserve the existence of humanity.
Californians want to teach my children about sexual harassment, sexual assault, adolescent relationship abuse, intimate partner violence, and sex trafficking.
(https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB329)
I will teach my children how to survive and what is right and wrong. This same sort of legislature is going up everywhere. Where it hasn't, it will.
Californians don't want me to own firearms, to hunt, to have fun, or to fulfill a duty. This is spreading.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article58345048.html
Californians don't want certain books sold in the state.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/california-bible-ban/
Even if you believe snopes 100% in this instance, it's clear that the objective is to control information, and the fruits of their labor will be quite abhorrent. What happens when an entire generation of kids grows up consuming information whose contents are composed of degenerate behavior, squalor, everything that's bad in the world is the white man's fault, and one world communist government is the only solution?
There are countless other examples of things California does that end up influencing my life, and rarely for the better in terms of what I believe in.
This phrase, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.", is basic for a reason.
It's unfortunate California has made the choices it has.
Rather than donate to help out the people that feed this beast, I will instead buy more ammo.
Don't take what I said the wrong way. I understand there are freedom loving Americans all over California, but their voice isn't heard, they're not represented, and they appear to have no influence over the direction of the state. All they do is help pay for it. The same is true for a lot of other places, too. It's a problem we all have to address.
California, however, needs to take some time to learn how to be free and independent again.
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Think at any point Trump said to Newsome "hey dude, we're almost family, my son's banging your ex-wife?"
Jerry curl wants to focus on politics. He's a sick dude.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-camp-fire-tictoc-20181118-story.html
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-camp-fire-tictoc-20181118-story.html
Get this - the Oregonian is reporting that in SoOR the Feds are going to do forest clean up and limited logging (which will be challenged in court and scaled back or just never done) on 22,000 acres. The total cost is $14MM. They believe they can recoup $2MM from logging and the remaining $12MM is to come from ‘future’ grants (i.e. it is wholly unfunded with nothing on the horizon). 22k acres doesn’t mean squat.
FYI for those that don’t know - when a fire happens if the wood is not harvested within 6 months it begins to rot. If not harvested in 12 - its worthless. Now it is a magnet for bugs and disease to the rest of the healthy forests and all of that burnout bio mass is fuel for the next fire. We have areas - each 10’s of thousands of acres, that have burned several times in the last decade b/c after the initial burn, the communist and the gov prohibited logging. As an example, if you are familiar with Crater Lake National Park - the entire North side burned in the early 2000s - every tree is fire damaged, black, diseased, most are just about dead. This area catches on fire @ every 2 yrs now. That is your government.
FYI for those that don’t know - when a fire happens if the wood is not harvested within 6 months it begins to rot. If not harvested in 12 - its worthless. Now it is a magnet for bugs and disease to the rest of the healthy forests and all of that burnout bio mass is fuel for the next fire. We have areas - each 10’s of thousands of acres, that have burned several times in the last decade b/c after the initial burn, the communist and the gov prohibited logging. As an example, if you are familiar with Crater Lake National Park - the entire North side burned in the early 2000s - every tree is fire damaged, black, diseased, most are just about dead. This area catches on fire @ every 2 yrs now. That is your government.
Idiots not allowing residents and next in line commercial harvest of dead timber
Should not be in charge of it.
And just as bad comecial harvest by a corrupt system cutting the residents out
And not utilizing the smaller cuts, no credible oversight.
Should not be in charge of it.
And just as bad comecial harvest by a corrupt system cutting the residents out
And not utilizing the smaller cuts, no credible oversight.
