California is a beautiful State what can we do to bring it back into the bosom of liberty?

[ArmyJerry]

Well, based upon the last Epic thread about Cali, hoping this one this one can be a positive one. I live in Texas now, my birth state of NJ is almost as bad as Cali now a days. We would like to blame democrats and liberals, but really the repubs are just as bad. I lived here in 81 and agal\n in the late 80s, it was a democrats blue state, it turned a pink red but now turning back blue, so large states can and do change from one degree or another.

The serious question here, what can be done to recover California,

Voter outtreach

Gun Clubs and Organizations Support through the courts

Out of state help

Strategy and planning to go after the oppressors harder than they come after our rights and liberties using all the power of the statitsts since so many members here are part of their apparatus (Cops).

Culture shifting through non violent COIN tactics

Confrontation at every turn

Using Alinsky tactics against the statitists as they were used against the once unsuspecting citizens

Operation chaos on a local, district and state level, from dog catcher to school board to mayors to judges

I know you Cali boys are a bit butthurt from the other thread, a lot of people do blame your state for a lot of the insanity in our country, I actually think we all share a portion of the blame, much like the GOP shares blame as they let the leftists kowtow them into silence.

My contribution is trying to start a movement to get Trump to campaign hard in Cali to get that shit turned and make the commies fight a rear guard.

I am not trolling in this thread, we have some very smart people here on this forum. Would like to hear some ideas and hope some of the locals can get some ideas and ask for help when needed.


I am not ready to write off that state, it does have some pretty geography, the food is good, the cities need a good dousing in bleach and a steam power washing but they are fixable.

Lets see if we can get as many comments and ideas here as we did in the other thread.

 

[Snipe260]

Theirs only one way the leadership of that state will ever change . The policies from the leaders are at fault along with their morals!. Their also must be many sheep there as well to let it get that way!

 

[HogsLife]

Well, based upon the last Epic thread about Cali, hoping this one this one can be a positive one. I live in Texas now, my birth state of NJ is almost as bad as Cali now a days. We would like to blame democrats and liberals, but really the repubs are just as bad. I lived here in 81 and agal\n in the late 80s, it was a democrats blue state, it turned a pink red but now turning back blue, so large states can and do change from one degree or another.

The serious question here, what can be done to recover California,

Voter outtreach

Gun Clubs and Organizations Support through the courts

Out of state help

Strategy and planning to go after the oppressors harder than they come after our rights and liberties using all the power of the statitsts since so many members here are part of their apparatus (Cops).

Culture shifting through non violent COIN tactics

Confrontation at every turn

Using Alinsky tactics against the statitists as they were used against the once unsuspecting citizens

Operation chaos on a local, district and state level, from dog catcher to school board to mayors to judges

I know you Cali boys are a bit butthurt from the other thread, a lot of people do blame your state for a lot of the insanity in our country, I actually think we all share a portion of the blame, much like the GOP shares blame as they let the leftists kowtow them into silence.

My contribution is trying to start a movement to get Trump to campaign hard in Cali to get that shit turned and make the commies fight a rear guard.

I am not trolling in this thread, we have some very smart people here on this forum. Would like to hear some ideas and hope some of the locals can get some ideas and ask for help when needed.


I am not ready to write off that state, it does have some pretty geography, the food is good, teh cities need a good dousing in bleach and a steam power washing but they are fixable.

Lets see if we can get as many comments and ideas here as we did in the other thread.

Who the fuck is this and what have you done with Army Jerry?!?!?!

?

 

[ArmyJerry]

I know, its not gonna be easy or quick but if you look the leftist turned that state from a solid republican state into a mecca of communism in about 10 years, it can be taken back.

I lived there when It was a freedom loving as Florida is today and it was unbelievably nice.

 

[ArmyJerry]

This is the real one. I was just getting bored and trolled a bit, but I have been thinking about taking Cali and NY state back for a long time. Why you ask, well I aint a pussy and I dont fear a goddam thing and I like Upstate and I like certain parts of Cali, Ceding ground means you will lose the big war.

Who the fuck is this and what have you done with the REAL Army Jerry?!?!?!?

 

[Srikaleak]

Continue making California more expensive to live.

 

[Nik H]

Since I go there a lot and my in laws live there, I have to say that it would be impossible to revert it to a CA that you remember...

The present day value system of the legislative, academic and welfare machine runs so deep that it would take a reset to have a possibility of working. The physical size of the state actually creates a highly diverse demographic in the large population centers. In LA, the physical size of the city and the staggering population that lives there results in a ridiculous degree of diversity both culturally and financially. Trying to impose a new thought process and cultural perspective across that diverse a population is impossible IMHO.

When I go there, I turn off focusing on the bad stuff and I enjoy all of the good stuff that still exists there. I have quite a few friends throughout the state. I always enjoy being there and enjoy leaving as well.

It is a unique place....the degree of wealth concentrated in small areas and the degree of poverty that also exists throughout the state boggles my mind.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Yep but now we need to figure out how take that land back.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

They can start by admitting they allowed it to happen, by being complacent. Then admitting they were waiting for others to do the work for them. If they never own up to those simple facts everything else takied about is a waste as they will not follow thru.

 

[Rutter]

Maybe when President Trump is done with his second term as President. You can get him in as the California Governor.

 

[blackops_1]

I wish I could offer some words of wisdom but with the political mechanism's in place for decades I feel CA is lost.

As a boy my dream was to go there for vaca and chase girls, live on the beach etc.. Now middle aged, balding and armed to the teeth.
CA is a "NOGO.

If things change politically I'm game but will never buy land there due to that whole drop off in the ocean thing.

(and yeah who can afford that anyway? Not me, I'm retired!)

 

[ArmyJerry]

Goddam quitters......

 

[SilentStalkr]

Well, someone could start by explaining to the lower class there just how their elected officials make sure that they stay there. Once they are educated on how vile these people are and understand how they work instead of falling for what the media tells them, then they might just vote for someone else. Frankly, I don’t understand how these people there could be so ignorant. Part of the reason real estate is so expensive in San Fran is because the leadership has made it so. They tout how they want to help all of these people but are doing everything in their power to keep them down. Then again, if they don’t understand this then maybe they truly are too stupid to be saved?

 

[Dirty D]

California, from what I hear on the news no matter where I walk I’m going to step in human feces right?

Isn’t there an app I can download that helps me geotag human turds in that state?

Funny that you should mention turds, Dr. Drew Pinsky recently wrote an article outlining how all of the conditions are perfect for an outbreak of the Bubonic plague in Los Angeles. I would hope that a big dose of medieval plague would be a wake up call to the citizens of that once fine state.

 

[Ric O'shay]

Cali is a write off, my concern is how to keep otherwise normal and proper states from sliding down the same path.
I see things changing for the worse here in Wisco and I worry we will become the next IL or MN.
It seems the head of the beast is in the large cities. People who live in smaller cities and rural areas need to get out and vote, and perhaps become more involved to curtail the down slide into liberal ways.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I can tell you all this , its not one action, its not one tactic, not one strategy, its gotta be a whole suite of actions and a concerted effort over a long period. Use all tools available, for those in government go Lois Lerner and go after these basterds. Cover your tracks, be careful of electronics, dont break any laws etc etc.

Use your enemies tactics and keep your mouth shut.

 

[Dirty D]

California is most definitely not a write off, unfortunately the big population centers are going to need a ride wake up call.

 

[ArmyJerry]

thats a start

 

[kortik]

.... keep your mouth shut.

Is this really you, AJ? Nuke DC, kill Russians and buy ammo is your normal mental state. It feels like something hit you in the head and penetrated the bone... Please come back soon, my friend.

 

[SilentStalkr]

I can tell you all this , its not one action, its not one tactic, not one strategy, its gotta be a whole suite of actions and a concerted effort over a long period. Use all tools available, for those in government go Lois Lerner and go after these basterds. Cover your tracks, be careful of electronics, dont break any laws etc etc.

Use your enemies tactics and keep your mouth shut.

Pretty sure the dems don’t care about breaking laws, they just bend it to suit them. Why should you be any different? Remember, if you came to fight fair then you didn’t come to win.

 

[ArmyJerry]

kortik, you know the game.

Is this really you, AJ? Something happened?

 

[SilentStalkr]

Is this really you, AJ? Something happened?

Soros got to him!

 

[ArmyJerry]

you gotta sort the disclaimer from the message.

Pretty sure the dems don’t care about breaking laws, they just bend it to suit them. Why should you be any different? Remember, if you came to fight fair then you didn’t come to win.

 

[ArmyJerry]

 

[Srikaleak]

Every winter get an AirBNB on the California coast, sip Champagne, and look at the sunset. Then instagram it with #California. We need more people to move back.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Everyone needs to read the ranger hand book, also read the FMs on counter insurgency and subversion actions.

U.S. Army Counterinsurgency Handbook (US Army Survival): Department of Defense, Petraeus, David H., Amos, James F.: 9781602391727: Amazon.com: Books

U.S. Army Counterinsurgency Handbook (US Army Survival) [Department of Defense, Petraeus, David H., Amos, James F.] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. U.S. Army Counterinsurgency Handbook (US Army Survival)

www.amazon.com

 

[W54/XM-388]

Is there any way to provoke a full on war with China where they might use nukes before getting obliterated?

 

[Inifinty]

They already shown you the way.

Take control of the media and education and then drill common sense back into people.

It ain’t happening tho.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

What can we do about California?

Press and hold F11

Cheers, Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Everyone needs to read the ranger hand book, also read the FMs on counter insurgency and subversion actions.

U.S. Army Counterinsurgency Handbook (US Army Survival): Department of Defense, Petraeus, David H., Amos, James F.: 9781602391727: Amazon.com: Books

U.S. Army Counterinsurgency Handbook (US Army Survival) [Department of Defense, Petraeus, David H., Amos, James F.] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. U.S. Army Counterinsurgency Handbook (US Army Survival)

www.amazon.com

The improvised munitions, booby traps and sf manuals are better...

Sirhr

 

[Nik H]

The improvised munitions, booby traps and sf manuals are better...

Sirhr

I like US Army FM 5-250...like an undergrad degree in demolitions

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Do you have a spare wall that we can put up pictures and names in a hirarchal order? Your basically taking on a giant mafia.

I dont think people grasp the magnitude.




Our best bet might be opening up some vacancies on the federal courts and get some more conservative judges in there.

 

[Diver160651]

2 main voting centers control the state. As an example of one of them, if you remove children’s under 18 (now considered in the native number) only about 25% of the population of San Francisco is a native California..

If we could just send the liberals and homeless back to their home States and Control our borders it be a great start...then the rest of the Red state might have a voice.

Seriously, other States need to vote hard on Imagration control & reform, needs to push hard to vote against what California and NY push... Figure out a way that one state doesn’t lure more homeless than another by offering easier living than the next. Keeping their college graduates, rather than letting them escape into the Coastal regions for careers and continuing to turn bluer with ever cup of Pete’s coffee would be key in braking the cycle.

 

[Matches Malone]

The improvised munitions, booby traps and sf manuals are better...

Sirhr

I like US Army FM 5-250...like an undergrad degree in demolitions

You kids are going to poke your eye out playing with those...
Stick with real HME.

 

[clcustom1911]

This is how I operate. I blend like a mofo. I befriend everyone and establish favorable rapport. Then, over time, I drop Knowledge Nuggets which eventually fertilize logic and rational thought. Even my ultra-liberal mother of my brother-in-law said I should run for office after a conversation we had. LoL. She's nice gal but damn, just one of the Orange Man Bad types.

I'm driving across the country in September and would love to meet up with some people's to discuss things and stuff over a beer. Gonna be on the 10 freeway from Cali to San Antonio, then up to Tennessee, then to NC.

 

[ArmyJerry]

let us know when you come to S Antonio

This is how I operate. I blend like a mofo. I befriend everyone and establish favorable rapport. Then, over time, I drop Knowledge Nuggets which eventually fertilize logic and rational thought. Even my ultra-liberal mother of my brother-in-law said I should run for office after a conversation we had. LoL. She's nice gal but damn, just one of the Orange Man Bad types.

I'm driving across the country in September and would love to meet up with some people's to discuss things and stuff over a beer. Gonna be on the 10 freeway from Cali to San Antonio, then up to Tennessee, then to NC.

 

[clcustom1911]

let us know when you come to S Antonio

You got it, Buddy. Savor the suds and talk about life.

 

[clcustom1911]

Place several hundred thousand pounds of dynamite in the fault lines like in James Bond and watch California sink into the ocean.

MORE COWBELL!!!

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

1. $$$$$$$$$$$$$
2. People, get involved in their local governments. Get elected the same way the scumbags did.
3. Use the courts the same way the scumbags do.
4. Hold them to their own standards.

5. This is the biggest... Stop being distracted by the bullshit.

Pool your money and get behind a good candidate and go door to door for them. Look at how many votes were cast in your last representative election. It doesn't take many to flip a seat. Especially since most of the incumbents don't really campaign once seated. Promise the gold mine and deliver conservative principles.
OR continue going to the Coliseum and being entertained. Maybe you won't be the entertainment someday.

 

[ArmyJerry]

we understand, ya eat a whale one bite at a time.. go after them like rudy went after the ny italian mafia.

Do you have a spare wall that we can put up pictures and names in a hirarchal order? Your basically taking on a giant mafia.

I dont think people grasp the magnitude.




Our best bet might be opening up some vacancies on the federal courts and get some more conservative judges in there.

 

[brianf]

Pray for the “big” one and hope it slips into the ocean.

In 5000 years it might come back with Atlantis all nice and washed off.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

I'd guess there is less than 0.00001% of the people out there trying to change that state. The rest are waiting on others to do it for them, while "Enjoying the good life" an that's all well an good. However don't come here an bitch about not being able to do/have XXX when your the problem in the first place, by setting back an doing nothing but bitching.

I truly hate it for those that work hard to change things while they watch their efforts slip away do to their so called comrades in arms, laziness. Interesting you can get Hillbilly's to rally but the educated do nothing but bitch, or ask where is the Calvary, while doing nothing for their self. They deserve everything they get, just sucks when you work so hard to try an do something for everyone an you get an have no support. Yet if the worm every turns those lazy fucks stand up an say look what we did,.... fucking pathetic.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

I'd guess there is less than 0.00001% of the people out there trying to change that state. The rest are waiting on others to do it for them, while "Enjoying the good life" an that's all well an good. However don't come here an bitch about not being able to do/have XXX when your the problem in the first place, by setting back an doing nothing but bitching.

I truly hate it for those that work hard to change things while they watch their efforts slip away do to their so called comrades in arms, laziness. Interesting you can get Hillbilly's to rally but the educated do nothing but bitch, or ask where is the Calvary, while doing nothing for their self. They deserve everything they get, just sucks when you work so hard to try an do something for everyone an you get an have no support. Yet if the worm every turns those lazy fucks stand up an say look what we did,.... fucking pathetic.

Uneducated guess at that and you're starting to sound like a broken record. Granted not every gun owner is dedicating every waking second to fighting the powers that be. That can be said for anywhere.

What you are failing to comprehend is that things dont work like your neck of the woods. A million gun owners could call and write letter but its going to people like Diane Feinstein, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi. Who have an agenda and won't be swayed.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Uneducated guess at that and you're starting to sound like a broken record. Granted not every gun owner is dedicating every waking second to fighting the powers that be. That can be said for anywhere.

What you are failing to comprehend is that things dont work like your neck of the woods. A million gun owners could call and write letter but its going to people like Diane Feinstein, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi. Who have an agenda and won't be swayed.

Bullshit, you gave up long ago thinking that way, you deserve everything you get.
Your no better than the FSA, talking like that. You want it done, bitch on the net, but don't/won't do shit to try an save or turn around anything. Nice to know there are woman in your state that have more balls than you.

Broken record,... that must be cutting deep, cause you know the truth hurts those who try to hide from it,... the most. You gave up long ago.

 

[Bantam1]

Having been in CA for most of my life (42 years) the state has changed drastically from my childhood days. The general public is ignorant to what is going on and how it happened. The laws that are passed have made it almost impossible to get it back. They are trying to buy votes by opening the flood gates for illegals and wanting them to be allowed to vote. The welfare state is out of control.

The people here are dumb and vote for tax increases on themselves. They didn't vote to reverse the additional gas tax/vehicle registration increase. They voted more taxes to pay for education when we already had over 50% of the state budget going towards education. Clearly it isn't working or they need more money for the liberal indoctrination programs. Nobody cried foul and asked why there is mismanagement in the school systems. This started in the 90's and has gotten much worse.

The worst part is a lot of these idiots vote for these things, then price themselves out of the state, move to good states like Texas and vote the same. I feel bad for those of you in free states being flooded by the ignorance headed your way.

I feel like my votes are wasted each election cycle. The only hope is that with the legalization of weed and the gay marriage stuff that maybe they will be too lazy and not be able to reproduce, and then die off like the dinosaurs. It will take too long for that program to take place for me to enjoy the end results.

I hope that eventually people will see the light. I just do not see it happening any time soon. The liberal/socialist goal is to take control of everything and they have pretty much succeeded. They have attempted to disarm the populace, or simply make them leave so that they can have a liberal utopia. There are still pockets of good people in this state. We are just outnumbered by the inept and ignorant.

It's tough living here but man the weather and fishing is great.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

2aBaCa
Long ago there was a training class that had a huge Flag pole. To get out of that training class all you had to do was walk to the flag pole, an hang up you hat on one of the many hooks. At that point you were free to go back to where ever you came from an resume your life. Only those that completed the class were privy to the names an photos of the quitters.

 

[Killswitch Engage]

its like an overgrown fence row. just burn it and start over.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Bullshit, you gave up long ago thinking that way, you deserve everything you get.
Your no better than the FSA, talking like that. You want it done, bitch on the net, but don't/won't do shit to try an save or turn around anything. Nice to know there are woman in your state that have more balls than you.

Broken record,... that must be cutting deep, cause you know the truth hurts those who try to hide from it,... the most. You gave up long ago.

Blah bla blah you don't do anything... Blah blah blah FSA... Blah blah blah you deserve everything you get... Blah blah blah youre lazy... Blah blah scenery...

Fact is you dont know shit about what anyone out here has done or is doing. All you can do is speculate from behind a computer screen.

So unless you have some bright fucking ideas. You're just vomiting in the thread.

 

[BG94591]

Voter ID laws would be a good start.

Unfortunately, unions have their hands in every aspect of life in Ca, from .gov to teachers unions. SF Bay Area and the LA metro area run Ca. Kids are being brain washed during their early years of life to think a certain way, Social Justice causes = good, constitution = bad.

I was born and raised in Ca, I work in a county jail, with all these laws that have been passed by the legislature like props 47, 57 and AB 109 have hamstrung Law Enforcement and the Courts.

I told my my wife that we are not raising kids here, so if and when she gets pregnant, I’m selling everything and we’re out. Honestly, short of a large meteor, I’m not sure what will work. In my opinion, it will get significantly worse before it gets better.

 

[mardad]

Who the fuck is this and what have you done with the REAL Army Jerry?!?!?!?

I was thinking same thing............