Ad you can add to that not at 60k feet. And no, they ain’t going to just snag it as it falls after being shot down.
Crap is in fairly shallow water. The Navy will get most of it, I wager.
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Crap is in fairly shallow water. The Navy will get most of it, I wager.
We had a BBQ at my hunt club today about 40 miles west of Myrtle Beach. We could see it for a pretty long time and saw the jets circling it for a pretty long time. I had a felling once it got off the coast, they were going to shoot it down. With the naked eye it just looked like a big white dot with 10x power binos you could just make out it was a balloon with something hanging off the bottom. All I had in my truck was my 10x42 LRF Furys and they wouldn't pick up a range I am going to contact Vortex to see what was wrong with them.......
Come on… you never went to order something on Amazon and saw it had a month and a half delivery time? This is why.
Too true. Fact...used to be every AFB had a skeet range. Goes back to WW II and teaching bomber gunners how to lead attacking aircraft.Pshaw, what are a few water hazards to the USAF?
The skeet fields are almost all gone (pussification of our military) but the golf courses are still there.
Not today ATF , I lost my guns in a ballon accident!
Best pics so far of the impact
Hard to say what was hit, but the arms with the sensors, solar panels and possibly antennae and steering/propulsion quickly dropped away from the balloon.
"How fast would it be going when it hits the ocean?", one might ask.
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Hard to say, is my official answer.
Will be interesting to see what gets recovered (knowing full well it will never be disclosed)
We had our best Sigint assets stalking it, although being nearby and being perfectly positioned to intercept data may be two different things. I saw some highly directional antennas in one similar picture, which I can't find at the moment.
Something similar to this:
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Perhaps the "propulsion" was simply some small DJI drone style motors/props for aiming the antennas at a PRC satellite?
This is a 2020 spy balloon over Japan
Put drone motors/props at the ends of the long axis, the antennas are on the perpendicular short axis. Think bow thrusters on a ship to keep the overall orientation precise to within a few MOA (mrad???)
The narrow beam antennas are more efficient than an omnidirectional antenna and harder to intercept.
There is very much which can be obtained from an autopsy of the payload, although one might consider China expected this one to be intercepted, and not put their best gear on it.
I genuinely hope the AF got a lot of very, very,very high resolution images and signatures from the contraption while it was aloft.
WWIII is going to be technically very challenging.
Hard to say what was hit, but the arms with the sensors, solar panels and possibly antennae and steering/propulsion quickly dropped away from the balloon.
"How fast would it be going when it hits the ocean?", one might ask.
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Hard to say, is my official answer.
Will be interesting to see what gets recovered (knowing full well it will never be disclosed)
We had our best Sigint assets stalking it, although being nearby and being perfectly positioned to intercept data may be two different things. I saw some highly directional antennas in one similar picture, which I can't find at the moment.
Something similar to this:
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Perhaps the "propulsion" was simply some small DJI drone style motors/props for aiming the antennas at a PRC satellite?
This is a 2020 spy balloon over Japan
Put drone motors/props at the ends of the long axis, the antennas are on the perpendicular short axis. Think bow thrusters on a ship to keep the overall orientation precise to within a few MOA (mrad???)
The narrow beam antennas are more efficient than an omnidirectional antenna and harder to intercept.
There is very much which can be obtained from an autopsy of the payload, although one might consider China expected this one to be intercepted, and not put their best gear on it.
I genuinely hope the AF got a lot of very, very,very high resolution images and signatures from the contraption while it was aloft.
WWIII is going to be technically very challenging.
About the same speed as Christa McAuliffe."How fast would it be going when it hits the ocean?", one might ask.
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Too soon?
Sirhr
China mad
nypost.com
China claims right to ‘respond further’ after US shoots down spy balloon: report
“China will resolutely defend the legitimate rights and interests of the enterprise involved, and retains the right to respond further.”
nypost.com
China mad
China claims right to ‘respond further’ after US shoots down spy balloon: report
“China will resolutely defend the legitimate rights and interests of the enterprise involved, and retains the right to respond further.”
So the first one was a "trial balloon."
It occurs to me that gathering high resolution thermal imaging of the missile fields in the dead of winter might yield a pretty good idea if the structures beneath the surface. Something that was never thought of when the silos were built.
Same with every installation along the balloon's path.
I'm not sure how good thermal images are from space, the additional distance can't help plus some additional absorption/degradation of the image from water vapor in the atmosphere.
Capabilities like seeing what buildings are occupied, security patrols, the list is endless.
That's one of the kinds of things that an autopsy of the wreckage should tell us.
Also if they have other imaging equipment, like gas imagers:
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Other stuff like magnetic anomaly, ground penetrating radar...
I'd bet they had their target list carefully plotted out, with Malmstrom probably being #1. Other stuff can be surreptitiously captured by them renting private aircraft and overflying, unless there are permanent TFR's in place or known sensitive areas under generally active air routes.
Malmstrom is so remote that few would fly there by chance.
Wonder if we have a shot at smoking one of the other (2? 3?) rumored balloons over central America or possibly Canada? Wait until it gets in international waters then quietly waste it and grab the wreckage. Like the old Glomar Explorer days.
One of the useful byproducts of this debacle is the number of OSINT resources I've found just by searching China balloon on Twitter. Lotsa good folks keeping an eye on things, maybe former spooks & intel guys...
Where else does one find delights like this:
Ouch.
Told y'all the Combat Sent was a pretty BF deal
Where else does one find delights like this:
Ouch.
Told y'all the Combat Sent was a pretty BF deal
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Meanwhile, in Austin...
www.dailymail.co.uk
Listen as Austin traffic control diverts FedEx and Southwest planes to avoid collision
Air traffic controller in Austin gave go-ahead for Southwest jet to take off on same runway that Fedex cargo plane was cleared to land on.
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Landing FedEx plane almost crashes into Southwest plane on the runway
The FAA is investigating aborted landing in Austin, Texas, after a FedEx cargo plane almost landed on a runway on which a Southwest plane was about to takeoff.
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Cockpit audio
www.dailymail.co.uk
US secures perimeter around spy balloon to stop China from reaching it
US Navy and Coast Guard ships are securing the perimeter off the coast of South Carolina where a fighter jet shot down a Chinese spy balloon, but a salvage vessel won't be on the scene for days.
Best pics so far of the impact
Hard to say what was hit, but the arms with the sensors, solar panels and possibly antennae and steering/propulsion quickly dropped away from the balloon.
"How fast would it be going when it hits the ocean?", one might ask.
Terminal Velocity Calculator - Calculate the maximum velocity of a falling object (in air)
Free online Terminal Velocity calculator with which you can calculate the maximum velocity of an object falling through air. ➤ The calculator takes into account air resistance (air drag), but does not account for the air buoyancy, which can be considered negligible in most free fall scenarios...
Hard to say, is my official answer.
Will be interesting to see what gets recovered (knowing full well it will never be disclosed)
We had our best Sigint assets stalking it, although being nearby and being perfectly positioned to intercept data may be two different things. I saw some highly directional antennas in one similar picture, which I can't find at the moment.
Something similar to this:
M2 Antennas 436CP42UG M2 Antennas 436CP42UG 70cm Circularly Polarized Beams | DX Engineering
Free Shipping - M2 Antennas 436CP42UG 70cm Circularly Polarized Beams with qualifying orders of $99. Shop VHF/UHF Beam Antennas at DX Engineering.
Perhaps the "propulsion" was simply some small DJI drone style motors/props for aiming the antennas at a PRC satellite?
This is a 2020 spy balloon over Japan
Put drone motors/props at the ends of the long axis, the antennas are on the perpendicular short axis. Think bow thrusters on a ship to keep the overall orientation precise to within a few MOA (mrad???)
The narrow beam antennas are more efficient than an omnidirectional antenna and harder to intercept.
There is very much which can be obtained from an autopsy of the payload, although one might consider China expected this one to be intercepted, and not put their best gear on it.
I genuinely hope the AF got a lot of very, very,very high resolution images and signatures from the contraption while it was aloft.
WWIII is going to be technically very challenging.
The chance that the US military either did not think to photograph it, or could not photograph it, is not zero. Today's military leadership is not what it used to be.
If it were to have bioweapons in it. What do you reckon it would be doing as it flies across the U.S?
Fail #1: Letting the balloon enter US airspace. NORAD either missed it or DOD did not have the balls to follow policy.
Fail #2: Letting the balloon fly across strategic assets in MT. At this point a clear violation of policy.
Fail #3: Letting the balloon leave MT, one of the least populated states.
Fail #4: Letting some moron play Nintendo games in an F-22 and blow any evidence to bits and pieces. (The ring of shrapnel emanating form the AIM-9x warhead was impressive though.)
They should have called Maverick to put a couple of small vent holes in the balloon with the gun. Seriously, the issue of the balloon flying above the service ceiling of most fighters and the closing rate mentioned before could have been dealt with by doing some old-school pilot shit. Trading speed for altitude.
Approach the balloon fast on a straight course at service ceiling or even lower. Pull up, nose pointing slightly above the balloon, and bleed off speed. Once slow and close enough, fire a burst, roll over, and pull into inverted dive.
Can someone please try this on a decent flight sim? Chinese balloon was supposedly flying between 60,000 and 65,000ft. F-16 published service ceiling is 58,000ft.
Fail #2: Letting the balloon fly across strategic assets in MT. At this point a clear violation of policy.
Fail #3: Letting the balloon leave MT, one of the least populated states.
Fail #4: Letting some moron play Nintendo games in an F-22 and blow any evidence to bits and pieces. (The ring of shrapnel emanating form the AIM-9x warhead was impressive though.)
They should have called Maverick to put a couple of small vent holes in the balloon with the gun. Seriously, the issue of the balloon flying above the service ceiling of most fighters and the closing rate mentioned before could have been dealt with by doing some old-school pilot shit. Trading speed for altitude.
Approach the balloon fast on a straight course at service ceiling or even lower. Pull up, nose pointing slightly above the balloon, and bleed off speed. Once slow and close enough, fire a burst, roll over, and pull into inverted dive.
Can someone please try this on a decent flight sim? Chinese balloon was supposedly flying between 60,000 and 65,000ft. F-16 published service ceiling is 58,000ft.
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Military sent up the SR71 Blackbird to spy on the Chinese Spy Balloon.
Did anyone else notice their holosun red dot start making strange noises as the balloon passed over their area ... ? Asking for a friend
Cheap ancient technology that would gather information over a weeks time that would be done in seconds with the many satellites they have not to mention half of our government that would just email them the requested information they wanted. So what was the real purpose of the exercise .......
And the frikin' libtard media and their lemmings are fanning the flames with the "we don't care" mantra and saying that the right is paranoid in thinking this situation is of any importance whatsoever.
Fuckers.
Fuckers.
This is freaking hilarious!! Two guys filmed it in SC. The audio is the funny part. The video's gone viral!
First bad is you have a Holosun red dot.
My RMR played the Star Spangled banner and forced my 1911 to point 90 degrees vertical.
Well. Say 5 John Moses Brownings and contemplate what you have done…
It’s not the Sig, so don’t worry…
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