Oh, btw. My CZ is Stock except for a picatinny bipod rail and an extended mag release catch. Shoots just fine, thank you for your concern.
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I have to treat it differently than a "hobby". I have to sell to make $. It's very hard for me to sell products that are months on backorder and a lot of specialty stuff requires $10k in stocking dealer items to even get your foot in the door. I look at it as having said amount of $ tied up for no reason. In 3 months I can have $10k of factory rifles sold and get my 25% return. The other thing is that I pay for everything I sell as I do not believe in debt.I agree with you. I have wasted so much time and money buying stuff after reading forums that were totally useless because the comments were fanboys justifying how good the poorly made production hardware is if you just upgrade the barrel, trigger and chassis to get the bargain bin special to perform just like a custom. It's all good, it's the journey of all hobbies from RV's to fishing, the game to buy cheap and to spend as much as you came trying to get it to work. Everyone has said, I should have bought the brand X if I only had the money. High expectations and poor results is life. That is why I always take a bucket of thunderbolt to the range when I take the Anschutz 1710 out and wonder why it doesn't meet my expectations. I was told that a better scope should get the Annie shooting straight. Upgrade will cost way money but you will never get back the years of frustration living with poor results as you lower your expectations. Have fun, aim high and don't be average.
That's what I was thinking. NW FL here.Ok we need a shooting comp…lash vs bwall vs lilskeet haha
Nice write-up and review of the 457. Like you said, results vary and "ya never know 'til ya try" always factors in. Enjoy your CZ's and the others as well.I have three CZ457s - an American, Varmint MTR, and Varmint Precision Trainer in the Manners PRS1T stock. I fell in lust with the American's appearance after seeing the initial advertisements for it in 2017, and the MTR's stock plus the match chambered barrel had a strong appeal as well. I have a one-man gunsmithing shop & ffl, and finding an American was easy, but it took a few months before I was able to find the MTR. The American didn't shoot worth a hoot, even after pulling the OEM bbl to recut a precision 11* crown (factory crown was fugly & ragged), but I kept shooting it due to the CZ fans over on RFC saying it sometimes takes 1000rds before a factory barrel comes around. The MTR OTOH, shot really well right out of the box, and adjusting the trigger for a break just over 1lb made it easier to shoot decent groups at 50yds with it.
Eventually, I decided to re-barrel the American instead of selling it off. Reasoned that I really liked the appearance of the factory sporter stock and the very smooth & reliable function of the action. I bought a Shilen ratchet in #5 contour, parted off the 1.20" shank, and turned the transition radius down to a tenon that was a nice snug fit in the action. Cut a match chamber with my EPS reamer, then milled the extractor slots, set the headspace at .043", and glued it into the action with Loctite #609. That got me away from having to cut the deep grub screw seats, and eliminated the stress on the action & bbl that grub screws create. That rifle now shoots as good as it looks (maybe better), and I'm very pleased with it. No, I don't shoot it in competition, but it's just what I was after in the 1st place - a classy looking sporter that's very accurate.
I decided to buy the VPT because of the appeal of the Manners stock - I have three V22 repeaters in PRS1T stocks, so obviously like that stock. However, the factory 24" bbl had issues, though it did shoot considerably better than the American's factory bbl had done. I put 500+rds through it at 50yds, and felt that groups had improved a fair amount since new, but when I took it out to 100 & 200yds, it fell on its face - couldn't even keep 10rds of a known good lot of SK Rifle Match on an 8" gong at 200. So another Shilen was ordered - this one a straight, no taper of .860" dia. Repeated the same process that I'd used on the American's Shilen, and wound up with another very accurate rifle.
So, in my experience, two out of three factory CZ barrels were really unsatisfactory, and had to be replaced. I don't know if CZ has improved the quality of their barrels since I bought my rifles, but have to wonder about that, with the current positive posts in this thread claiming good accuracy out of the box. I've been happy with the fact that CZ designed the 457 with a fully adjustable trigger - not many companies seem to have the courage to sell a design that allows owners to easily tune their triggers, especially in today's sue-happy society. I wouldn't have spent the time or money to re-barrel the two 457s that needed better barrels if I didn't really like the action. Granted, my experience with custom barrels that I've fitted & chambered on 22RF rifles I've built for myself (Stiller 2500XR, two CMP 40Xs converted into repeaters by Jelrod, three V22 repeaters and two V22S single shots) raised my accuracy expectations & standards to a level that very few factory repeaters in the 457's price range will ever achieve. But like I said before, I like the 457 action, and applaud CZ's efforts to bring a quality 22RF rifle to market at the price point.
Not surprised. Despite being something of a CZ fan, most non-PRS22 shooting people don't know what they are. Heck! *I* didn't before I bought one. Saw a USPSA competition guy bring his Shadow 2 into the LGS I frequent and went 'oooh purty!'lil'skeet - Should've mentioned that I bought two 457 Americans & a Varmint in that 1st order, thinking that one of the Americans would have a nice looking stock, and I'd sell the other one. Well, the nice stocked rifle that I kept was the one that didn't shoot, and I've never shot either the 2nd American nor the Varmint, as I bought them to sell. Evidently, western Kansas isn't overrun with shooters who're interested in the CZ rimfire rifle line-up, as I've still got both of these rifles, still NIB. I took them to a couple of the gunshows that I routinely display at - didn't get any interest in either rifle. I even took them down to a friend's shop who has a good deal of traffic through his store, with a wide range of RF & CF rifles and handguns, and who is also a Class III/SOT, and who somehow manages to keep a decent supply of handloading components in stock. I figured he'd sell both of them within a couple of weeks...wrong. Evidently, there aren't a whole lot of RFC members out here in this end of the state...
I suppose I could've done that, but then what would I have done with the bbl'd action that didn't shoot well? I wouldn't have wanted to have sold it to anyone else, especially not a friend. No, like I said, now I've got what I wanted in the 1st place - a good-looking sporter that's very accurate.Flatland1 Just switch stocks. They are interchangable and no serialized number. Put the American you didn't shoot into the wone that not shooting well and see how it does.
There is nothing precision about the lug fit. I have to wonder if you could just use epoxy putty squashed in place ( with release agent / barrier of course).Thanks guys! MDT Chassis, and it does have a lug recess. Probably more important on a wooden stock.
How bout a bipod?stupid n00b questions contd
I think my pressure on the mags was causing my rifle to mis-feed the other day. Is there something other than an ARCA rail that'll bolt to the bottom of my At-One stock that'll keep pressure off the mag?
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have a bipod for when I need it.How bout a bipod?
What's your mag hitting on?
that lean helps stabilize the rifle. The BMR that I'm coming from didn't have the same issue...Maybe I missed something in an earlier post, but sounds to me like you just need to not lean in to the barricade so much that you put pressure on the mag.
Yes, ANY barrel, in any length and in any caliber that is designated to fit a CZ 455/457 will fit on your gun. ( The 20" Varmint MTR barrel being just one of them). They all mount the same. I'm running a 22" IBI Match barrel on one of my 457's myself. This one started as a 17 HMR American.I want a longer barrel on my 457 Varmint Precision chassis will the MTR barrel fit on it
YesI want a longer barrel on my 457 Varmint Precision chassis will the MTR barrel fit on it
yes it will fit. easy to do. I did it to my 457 Varmint Precision. Took the Barrel from my MTR when i installed a Lilja barrel on to the MRT Varmint.I want a longer barrel on my 457 Varmint Precision chassis will the MTR barrel fit on it
I have a lefty varmint waiting for me at my local ffl. I had a lefty 452 that I souped up over time that I sold off when I did a rim x. I regret that to this day, really dumb move, that rifle was a hammer and what the hell was I thinking that I could get by with just 1 22lr rifle.Any lefties here? CZ just released the 457 American & Varmint models in LH configuration. Debating picking up a Varmint or waiting to see if a Precision Trainer is in the works too. Either way, I'm pretty pleased to see new LH models with threaded barrels being released. I've been waiting a long time for T1x LH's to come on the market and I think I'll be just as pleased with this.
I'm shooting TAC22 out of my 24" barrel. Getting hits to 204ydsSK Pistol Match 22lr in a 24" barrel has anyone used it and what kind of results did you have
I was shooting a ?6"? steel target at 204yds with that ammo on SundayJust got 6 bricks of Tac22 for the 20" LRP. For the price its great shooting @ 50 yards. hits 200 yard 18 inch steel fairly easily but haven't worked on getting a group that far out. Will be trying to locate some SK standard plus to try out on my new LRP. A friend measured case dimensions and the Tac22 was more consistent than some SK and lapua casings (using calipers). Will need to find out which ones though.
There is free shipping on orders over 49$ and additional 5% off if you sign up for their newsletter for tac22I'm shooting TAC22 out of my 24" barrel. Getting hits to 204yds
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Very interested to see how the Bravo mod works out. I reached out to Manners to ask if they had any plans to make a LH 457 stock and they said no.I have a lefty varmint waiting for me at my local ffl. I had a lefty 452 that I souped up over time that I sold off when I did a rim x. I regret that to this day, really dumb move, that rifle was a hammer and what the hell was I thinking that I could get by with just 1 22lr rifle.
Had some correspondence with KRG and I think for now Im just gonna go ahead and mod a bravo. It's going to be a day and night field rifle so the ability to attach this and that and adjust accordingly makes the bravo chassis a favorable choice for me.
Always been a fan of cz rimfire rifles and really looking forward to this guy.
IDK specifically about that, but Anarchy Outdoors makes a couple and mebbe CZ USA has one on their siteDoes anyone make a magazine release extender for the American factory chassis?
Will do.. yes aftermarket left stuff is few and far at the moment but hopefully that will change some down the road. I'm just running with the factory bbl for now, looking to finally get out tomorrow and shoot it.Very interested to see how the Bravo mod works out. I reached out to Manners to ask if they had any plans to make a LH 457 stock and they said no.
Are you going to thread the barrel of the Varmint? Or get a drop-in barrel?
The bolts are standard as well. The firing pin design is a compromise for the 22lr, 17HMR and 22 WMR, but the rest are the same. They are in stock at https://shop.cz-usa.com/5080057001.html.So today I was an idiot and dropped my 17HMR. The threaded part on the handle that the knob threads on sheared right off. Anyone know if bolts are interchangeable between actions? Doubt I'll need the 17 any time soon, but figured I've got a 457 in 22lr as well. I know the barrels are interchangeable but I can't seem to find anything with regards to the bolts themselves. I should add I don't have any headspace gauges for 22lr or 17hmr.
Anarchy outdoors just remade their larger release and are using aircraft grade aluminum instead of plastic. https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/cz-rimfire-rifle-extended-magazine-release-gen-ii/ I just ordered one of their new ones and will report back later. It only specifies that it won't work with metal 5 round mags, but the 10/25 round mags are all polymer. The American - is a polymer stock, and all parts would fit the same if I'm not mistaken. CZ doesn't specify a different mag release for them.IDK specifically about that, but Anarchy Outdoors makes a couple and mebbe CZ USA has one on their site
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The bolts are standard as well. The firing pin design is a compromise for the 22lr, 17HMR and 22 WMR, but the rest are the same. They are in stock at https://shop.cz-usa.com/5080057001.html.
This being said I have a friend who is making his own shims for the bolt to adjust headspace, and he noticed that the bolts measurements in earlier 457 Lux, and our MTR/LRP are slightly different, by a couple of thousandth of an inch. But the part you are referring to with the handle is the same.
Hope this helps.
I have that same release, early production run. It runs like a champ and is the only one I’d consider now for match use.Anarchy outdoors just remade their larger release and are using aircraft grade aluminum instead of plastic. https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/cz-rimfire-rifle-extended-magazine-release-gen-ii/ I just ordered one of their new ones and will report back later. It only specifies that it won't work with metal 5 round mags, but the 10/25 round mags are all polymer. The American - is a polymer stock, and all parts would fit the same if I'm not mistaken. CZ doesn't specify a different mag release for them.