SK Pistol Match 22lr in a 24" barrel has anyone used it and what kind of results did you have
CZ 457
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Just got 6 bricks of Tac22 for the 20" LRP. For the price its great shooting @ 50 yards. hits 200 yard 18 inch steel fairly easily but haven't worked on getting a group that far out. Will be trying to locate some SK standard plus to try out on my new LRP. A friend measured case dimensions and the Tac22 was more consistent than some SK and lapua casings (using calipers). Will need to find out which ones though.
I was shooting a ?6"? steel target at 204yds with that ammo on Sunday
It was shaped like a firecracker exploding, so hard to tell.
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Very interested to see how the Bravo mod works out. I reached out to Manners to ask if they had any plans to make a LH 457 stock and they said no.
Are you going to thread the barrel of the Varmint? Or get a drop-in barrel?
IDK specifically about that, but Anarchy Outdoors makes a couple and mebbe CZ USA has one on their site
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Will do.. yes aftermarket left stuff is few and far at the moment but hopefully that will change some down the road. I'm just running with the factory bbl for now, looking to finally get out tomorrow and shoot it.
I did grab a trigger spring and swapped that out, threw on a spare optic. Hoping it likes old Wolf match as I have quite a few bricks in the rear.
So today I was an idiot and dropped my 17HMR. The threaded part on the handle that the knob threads on sheared right off. Anyone know if bolts are interchangeable between actions? Doubt I'll need the 17 any time soon, but figured I've got a 457 in 22lr as well. I know the barrels are interchangeable but I can't seem to find anything with regards to the bolts themselves. I should add I don't have any headspace gauges for 22lr or 17hmr.
Had a chance to get out today, Wolf M/T looks like a winner, was not the best of conditions but am very pleased with the groups. Oddly this was the same lot my buddies 24" 457 liked after testing in his rifle. It did not prefer eley club really but that doesn't matter. Put hits out with consistency out to 318 so no complaints. It's a little scary how well it's all falling together.
Zeroed a slot into the thermal as well.
Ended up scaring the shit out of that critter down there messing around.
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Zeroed a slot into the thermal as well.
Ended up scaring the shit out of that critter down there messing around.
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Got my at-one 457 out yesterday. I'm still looking at permanent scope options and decent ammo, but wanted to play with the new toy.
Got zero'd and shot a few groups at just under an inch at 50 yards using a cheap loaner bipod, 2-7 vx3, and 40gr super-x. I'd say there's plenty of potential there.
The stock on the AT-ONE isn't free floating the barrel everywhere so I need to take down a couple high spots. No biggie.
Anyone put pillars in one of these? There isn't much meat around the action screw holes to get pillars and epoxy into.
Is every gun different as far as torque specs for action screws?
Got zero'd and shot a few groups at just under an inch at 50 yards using a cheap loaner bipod, 2-7 vx3, and 40gr super-x. I'd say there's plenty of potential there.
The stock on the AT-ONE isn't free floating the barrel everywhere so I need to take down a couple high spots. No biggie.
Anyone put pillars in one of these? There isn't much meat around the action screw holes to get pillars and epoxy into.
Is every gun different as far as torque specs for action screws?
They sure are nice little rifles. I bought a Varmint in 22mag a few months ago and have really fallen in love with it. My sample is way more accurate than I was lead the 22mag to be. Its no 22lr but still, its pretty darn accurate. It likes Speer gold dot and cci fmj. Actually those are the only two Ive tried in it but it shot both quite well.
That was sight in day with the GoldDot load at 50yds. 6 rounds a d then that so at round #16 it was shooting fine. The bore is beautiful and I hit the wood lottery with my stock. But, and this is a big but, CZ put their famous CZ mud finish over top of some really figured wood, breaks my heart. And its so dark. Ive got to figure out a way to remedy this.
Just a few weeks ago I bought a 22lr American barrel for it so I now have a 22mg/22lr combo. Im enjoying my FIRST 22wmr rifle too much right now to do a swap though.
I smoothed the bolt and the ways inside the receiver, adjusted the trigger to my liking, added a new bolt knob my big mitts can get ahold of, got a few 10rnd mags and an aluminum magwell. The best thing I think I did though was buy rings from D3Precision because there was absolutely no way I was going to ruin the look of it by putting one of those monstrosity of a rails on top of it. Petes rings are as good as there is for that 11mm dovetail, bar none. A d they put the obj of my 44mm scope about .2" above the barrel and with a Vortex Defender cap about .1" is left, perfect.
The mag release is a disappointment isnt it? Im after one but theyve all been out of stock lately. Im thinking the one from DIP.
Im pretty happy with the factory trigger so see no need to mess with the Timney, yet.
This group was at 100yds with the cci fmj load.
A out the torque setting, yes, theyre all different except from the factory. Theyre a great way to fine tune YOUR rifle and preferred load. Head over to Rimfirecentral, those folks are fanatical and Ive always learned something every time I visit.
I see that many here have totally made-over their 457's and that is fine, thats what its all about right? But for me I wanted to keep this one as traditional looking as possible, wood and walnut type of thing. Even if it is Turkish walnut. I know Im going to end up just getting the American, that is one sharp looking little rimfire, that I can actually afford.
That was sight in day with the GoldDot load at 50yds. 6 rounds a d then that so at round #16 it was shooting fine. The bore is beautiful and I hit the wood lottery with my stock. But, and this is a big but, CZ put their famous CZ mud finish over top of some really figured wood, breaks my heart. And its so dark. Ive got to figure out a way to remedy this.
Just a few weeks ago I bought a 22lr American barrel for it so I now have a 22mg/22lr combo. Im enjoying my FIRST 22wmr rifle too much right now to do a swap though.
I smoothed the bolt and the ways inside the receiver, adjusted the trigger to my liking, added a new bolt knob my big mitts can get ahold of, got a few 10rnd mags and an aluminum magwell. The best thing I think I did though was buy rings from D3Precision because there was absolutely no way I was going to ruin the look of it by putting one of those monstrosity of a rails on top of it. Petes rings are as good as there is for that 11mm dovetail, bar none. A d they put the obj of my 44mm scope about .2" above the barrel and with a Vortex Defender cap about .1" is left, perfect.
The mag release is a disappointment isnt it? Im after one but theyve all been out of stock lately. Im thinking the one from DIP.
Im pretty happy with the factory trigger so see no need to mess with the Timney, yet.
This group was at 100yds with the cci fmj load.
A out the torque setting, yes, theyre all different except from the factory. Theyre a great way to fine tune YOUR rifle and preferred load. Head over to Rimfirecentral, those folks are fanatical and Ive always learned something every time I visit.
I see that many here have totally made-over their 457's and that is fine, thats what its all about right? But for me I wanted to keep this one as traditional looking as possible, wood and walnut type of thing. Even if it is Turkish walnut. I know Im going to end up just getting the American, that is one sharp looking little rimfire, that I can actually afford.
Nice write up @Arko. Glad you hit the wood lottery with yours and I’ll admit that I’m a little jealous. Mine is nice enough and surprisingly not too muddy, but another guy I shot with a couple weekends ago has a nicely figured piece of wood. His also has that dark finish yours has.
There are a couple different ways that you can address that finish to make the figure stand out, but the best ways involve stripping off that crappy finish and replacing it with something better. I’m a fan of polyurethane, but not everyone is. Some prefer the more traditional and more time consuming finishes.
In any case, enjoy that rifle.
There are a couple different ways that you can address that finish to make the figure stand out, but the best ways involve stripping off that crappy finish and replacing it with something better. I’m a fan of polyurethane, but not everyone is. Some prefer the more traditional and more time consuming finishes.
In any case, enjoy that rifle.
The bolts are standard as well. The firing pin design is a compromise for the 22lr, 17HMR and 22 WMR, but the rest are the same. They are in stock at https://shop.cz-usa.com/5080057001.html.
This being said I have a friend who is making his own shims for the bolt to adjust headspace, and he noticed that the bolts measurements in earlier 457 Lux, and our MTR/LRP are slightly different, by a couple of thousandth of an inch. But the part you are referring to with the handle is the same.
Hope this helps.
Anarchy outdoors just remade their larger release and are using aircraft grade aluminum instead of plastic. https://www.anarchyoutdoors.com/cz-rimfire-rifle-extended-magazine-release-gen-ii/ I just ordered one of their new ones and will report back later. It only specifies that it won't work with metal 5 round mags, but the 10/25 round mags are all polymer. The American - is a polymer stock, and all parts would fit the same if I'm not mistaken. CZ doesn't specify a different mag release for them.
Thanks for the reply, and glad to hear they're interchangeable! Unfortunately I'm up in Canada so I've got to source the part through the main distributor here. I'll just have to swap bolts with my 22 if I end up needing the 17 before I can get a replacement part.
I thought most of the headspace adjustments could be done on the barrel side, a la Lilja style?
I have that same release, early production run. It runs like a champ and is the only one I’d consider now for match use.
Is the MTR the only model that comes with a match chamber? Does it affect accuracy that much? I'm thinking of picking up a Pro Varmint, does it have the potential to shoot well?
The Pro Varmint i have in 16.5 is really accurate I ordered a 24 MTR barrel for it to help get more consistent muzzle velocities other than that i am happy with the pro
There are a few that have the match chamber now, but they're all on the more expensive side of the spectrum. The cz site is pretty good about laying out which is which.
There are more now. The MTR was the first, then the LRP (Long Range Precision) and now the newer version of the precision trainer with the adjustable comb. Only the LRP has the fluted match barrel though, you can buy it from CZ as a barrel only. They list is as Long Range MTR https://shop.cz-usa.com/cz-457-long-range-mtr-sr-barrel-set-22lr-20in-nitride.html
In the US the LRP is listed as discontinued, but in Europe they just came out with the "black" version, which they may bring to the US - exactly the same as the grey version.
CZ457 18.5” Lilja 22LR ELITE Barrel in a Rigid Alloy PRF Chassis, XLR butt stock and Timney Trigger.
Suppressor is an Obsidian 9. Waiting on my KGM RF22 that is still in jail.
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I'm very happy with the Rigid Chassis. Love how they did the magazine release. It's integrated into the Trigger Guard (push to release).
How does the 419 Lilja barrel shoot? Its not shim adjustable right? debating on getting fixed headspace or the shimmable version if I can find any in stock
I have two Lilja barrels. The first one I got was from Lilja which I ordered and came with the Shim Kit. I presently use it in my PDC Chassis. The way i shimmed it will shot both Eley and SK ammo. However, it really likes the Eley out of it. The latest one i got was 419 and it is does not need the shim kit. I tried shooting Eley ammo out of it. However, i got to many FTE with theHow does the 419 Lilja barrel shoot? Its not shim adjustable right? debating on getting fixed headspace or the shimmable version if I can find any in stock
Eley ammo. So i could not depend on the Eley ammo to shoot in a match. It really shoots good with SK, Lapua, Wolf and RWS. I'm going to use this setup (with the PRF Chassis) for a NRL22 Match this weekend. I probably take both rifles just incase. Will see how it goes.
I would recommend call Lilja and order what you want and then play with the shim kit. That's what i did. The 419 barrel will let you adjust it. You will have to find the ammo that will work out of it.
Damn, that crushes my soul. I was just making plans for a 457 build and haven’t found any chassis to my liking so I thought Manners would be The Way.
I launched the extractor spring on one of my 22 cal CZ 457's a while back and ended up swapping in a bolt from another 457 that I owned. All I can say is that it worked. I really wasn't testing accuracy as it was a new to me gun anyway.
Finally was able to get out and do some shooting after about 2 months off with a broken left arm/shoulder. I was pleasantly surprised with this group at 50 yards with SK Long Range Match at 98° F. This is a 5 shot group (and yes just showing my best grouping for the day, but the other groups where acceptable). For the heck of it, I decided to try out the 24"x24" steel at 550 yards off the bench due to arm. I was able to get 8 out of 10 hits on steel. My dope was 30.5 mils and 1 mil to the right. All in all, a great day for shooting, but arm still needs more healing unfortunately.
It looks like a really great chassis for an incredible price, what length is the handguard on yours? It seems like your 18.5" barrel barely clears it, I'm wondering if the 16.5" barrel on my pro varmint will.
When i ordered the chassis, i had a choice on the length of the hand guard. I went with the longest (13.6") one. My barrel is 18.5 inches, and yes the barrel stick out enough where i can attach my suppressor (barely). BTW the suppressor is a 9mm Rugged 9. Waiting on my KGM RF22 to get out of jail. Here is a picture w/out the suppressor.
Last time I tried that distance-ish, it was the last stage of a MARS match. We were shooting off a beanbag chair like thing and I missed. Lots.
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Since R22 is hard to find for feeding the 300WM these days, I decided to get back into 22’s so a 457 American Suppressor Ready maaaaay have followed me home last night.
Stock is a bit flimsy up front so I’m sure I’ll be swapping that out for the KRG soon. Hardest decision so far is deciding on what glass to mount. I filed the edge of serial numbers down on the bolt like others mentioned earlier and its butter smooth now, good tip, so thanks for that.
Haven’t been this excited to shoot a 22 since I was a kid. Looking forward to seeing what it’ll do once I get the glass mounted and zeroed.
Stock is a bit flimsy up front so I’m sure I’ll be swapping that out for the KRG soon. Hardest decision so far is deciding on what glass to mount. I filed the edge of serial numbers down on the bolt like others mentioned earlier and its butter smooth now, good tip, so thanks for that.
Haven’t been this excited to shoot a 22 since I was a kid. Looking forward to seeing what it’ll do once I get the glass mounted and zeroed.
Joined recently after purchasing a CZ 457 Youth model from Sportsmans Warehouse. Did my first NRL22 match and it was such a good time. Definitely was getting laughed at for how small the rifle was but I have a KRG Bravo on the way! Just wanted to share.
Still needs some add ons installed and some minor fitting for the bolt relief but the backbone is cleared. Like to fill in the original cutout some and keep that pin for the bolt release from slipping out..but good with the way its turning out giving me the same ergonomics and feel of my other rifles which are all built off the MCS t4a.
Does anyone know when CZ will be producing new barrels or rifles seems they have stopped supplying them to dealers
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Looks like a few have popped back in stock..I have been checking in intermittently
They are currently in stock in a few places. Use your Google fu. 
ETA: I suppose it depends a bit on which model you are looking for, but still a few options.
ETA: I suppose it depends a bit on which model you are looking for, but still a few options.
Yeah looking for the 24" mtr in 22lrThey are currently in stock in a few places. Use your Google fu.
ETA: I suppose it depends a bit on which model you are looking for, but still a few options.
You’ll have much better luck in finding the 20.5” MTR. Trust me that is totally worth it. They have it dialed in.
I hope you realize that's a phony store.
