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I have a 23" Lilja. I have been shooting SK Rifle Match and it shoots well, but after my last range trip it looks like SK Standard+ shoots better. SK rifle match is around 1055fps at the muzzle and SK Standard+ is around 1035fps at the muzzle.Well just ordered a Lilja 22in .900 straight contour for the 457 MTR. JFive what ammo worked best for you??
Thanks
BT-17 using sling stud locations to drill and insert the T-nuts.
I first used a 3/4” forstner bit to relieve the stock at each location, then drilled through with the right drill for the body of the t-nut. I didn’t want to take any chances of barrel contact either.Thank you for the info, Lash. Did you have to relieve the stock to inset the t-nuts? I'm wondering if the barrel is close enough to contact the t-nuts?
I first used a 3/4” forstner bit to relieve the stock at each location, then drilled through with the right drill for the body of the t-nut. I didn’t want to take any chances of barrel contact either.
Forstner bits:
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Never thought of that.And after i get the screw cut to length, i back fill the hole with 5 minute epoxy so that nothing comes loose and humidity cannot get into the wood.
David
Here is a picture. I don’t use T nuts but a washer and Aircraft nut. Same function. Then i sand the barrel channel to round out the eoxy if needed and resealNever thought of that.
I’ve used the CCI-SV before too and currently use mostly SK+ for PRS22 matches. But it really depends on the lot# for each of them. Neither is really match grade for groups, though you can occasionally get nice small ones when the planets align and you don’t get a flyer.I've had my 457 V-MTR since Spring and have found SK+ and SK-RM to shoot very well for 'medium-priced ammo', and the Lapua Center-X was much better. The diff between 0.4-6xx" groups to 0.2-3xx" groups. And I've found that CCI-SV does almost as well as the SK flavors. I got some SK Magazine to use as 'foulers', it's a bit cheaper to throw 10 or so of these first after a cleaning. I'm using an Athlon Argos 8-34x56 FFP, on an Area 419 30* rail and I find the bubble helps tighten groups more than without using it. I've got my Timney trigger down to about 5-6-oz and that helps too.
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Front of the grip to center of curve of the trigger is 1.375". ( 7/8" from front of the grip to the back of the trigger guard and 1/2" from there to trigger.) LOP is 13.5". Very comfortable rifle to shoot off the bench.I’m looking at a 457 MTR to replace my VQ summit that I just can’t get to shoot consistently. The MTR stock looks relatively similar to my Centurion I run on my match rifle. Could someone measure the distance from the front of the grip to the face of the trigger for me please? As well as face of trigger to end of butt stock? Thanks!!!
I've taken several off for refinish. I'm not sure if it's adhesive or just the stock finish that glues them on but they can be stuck pretty good. I always just give them a few good raps with a rubber mallet. I bet your amazed with your results. I still don't understand why CZ uses that ultramud finish.I am working on refinishing my MTR stock. It has beautiful grain that CZ did a good job of hiding. The issue is that i want to remove the recoil pad. I can take out the 2 screws that hold it on. They are T15 screws but the recoil pad doesn’t separate from the stock. I hit it with my rubber mallet. But it didn’t budge. Are they glued on or???
Thanks
David
You are right that it looks so much better. I will try harder tomorrow.I've taken several off for refinish. I'm not sure if it's adhesive or just the stock finish that glues them on but they can be stuck pretty good. I always just give them a few good raps with a rubber mallet. I bet your amazed with your results. I still don't understand why CZ uses that ultramud finish.
Looks like you got a nice one. It's got a nice mix of color variation, some tiger stripe and interesting grain. That should turn out nice if you take your time. What are you using for finish? I usually use tru oil but have recently had good luck with minwax wipe on poly too.Here is the my MTR stock after being stripped with laquer thinner and the sanded and steel wooled, then 1 coat of stain. It looked nothing like this when I started.
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I have used Minwax Special Walnut for the stain. I now have 2 coats on it of stain on it. Now I will start sealing it with Minwax Polycrylic. It is a water based urethane. I used to use Minwax Polyurethane but since it was mineral spirits based it would disolve some of the stain. The Polycrylic is water based so I don't think I will have that issue. I normally use about 5 to 6 coats that were 400 grit sanded between each coat. the final coat gets 0000 steel wool and then renaissance waxed. The reason I don't use tru oil is that even after it dries our bore solvents will attack it and make it splotchy. It is cold here in NC right now so I can't shoot rimfire so this has been a good time for doing the pillar bedding and refinishing the rifle. Keeps me off the streetsLooks like you got a nice one. It's got a nice mix of color variation, some tiger stripe and interesting grain. That should turn out nice if you take your time. What are you using for finish? I usually use tru oil but have recently had good luck with minwax wipe on poly too.
Wow! That’s a long barrel! Let us know how it shoots.I just bought a CZ457 Jaguar from Palmetto State $523.71 shipped to my FFL It's my Happy New Year gift to me.
28 5/8 barrel and it's threaded! Wow.I just bought a CZ457 Jaguar from Palmetto State $523.71 shipped to my FFL It's my Happy New Year gift to me.
No experience with this particular barrel ( I didn't even know they made a barrel for the CZ to be truthful.) I did have an EABCO branded bull barrel for a Ruger 10/22 some years back. It shot well but not wowing by any means. I'd be real interested to know how this one shoots as I especialy like the 24" length. FWIW, others to look at in that "mid" price range would be a factory MTR barrel, IBI , Lothar Walther, Pete's P{pillars, or even a used Lilja.Anyone have experience with the EABCO barrel? Looking for an upgrade from my scout barrel but not looking to spend $600.
https://eabco.com/eabco-cz-457-accuracy-barrel-24-stainless/
That Lijia is a shooter!!Here is with my CZ 457 MTR with Lilja 22in .900 barrel with RWS R100. Wind was 4 mph coming straight in at 0 degrees with some very minor left to right shifts.
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What chassis are you going to run?Thanks!! I was a little tricky with the heads up wind today right in the face. Very happy with the barrels performance. The last 2 items to complete the build is chassis and a Herrell's tuner.
I just got my Vudoo 360 week of the 18th...Its in a matrix pro which I was unsure if I'd like it or not after getting and shooting it I really like the chassis...one thing I did not like with the ACC was the twist in the fore end without the internal weights but a great chassis.Looking at MDT ACC, Woox Furiosa or MPA BA Hybrid. Either way it;s not cheap.
I have a 457 Varmint Precision Chassis model in that same factory chassis. The rifle is VERY adjustable and stable. I've made a few improvements to the Luth-AR buttstock but have to say I like it allot for the general /mostly off the bench shooting I do. Mine also wears a Lilja barrel. This rig will rival my Vudoo when I do my part.Seems the CZ MTR chassis are actually made here in the USA.
Just mounted our VMTR Barreled action in the Manners stock (from the VPT MTR) and I absolutely love it.
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Parts list:
- CZ 457 Varmint MTR Barreled Action
- McMaster Carr 612 Trigger Spring and Polished Sear (~1.5 lb pull)
- Area 419 30 MOA Rail
- Bushnell Match Pro 6-24x50
- Vortex Pro Series 30mm Medium Rings
- Area 419 Weighted ARCA Rail
- Caldwell Swivel Bipod with Area 419 Harris ARCA Lock Adapter
- Gray Ops CNC Shorty Bag Stop
- Area 419 Bolt Knob
How does the SCOUT barrel shoot now?Anyone have experience with the EABCO barrel? Looking for an upgrade from my scout barrel but not looking to spend $600.
https://eabco.com/eabco-cz-457-accuracy-barrel-24-stainless/