I called today to check on my trust form 4. They received my form and check on 31 May. It went pending 2 June. I was told a nine month wait. I know this is just the standard line these days. It's a great sign it went pending so quickly!
Finally!
Paperwork sent 1/6/14
Pending 3/4/14
Approved 7/25/14
Picked up 8/5/14
Went a lot faster than the last one.
Paperwork sent 1/6/14
Pending 3/4/14
Approved 7/25/14
Picked up 8/5/14
Went a lot faster than the last one.
Mailed mid November last year and went pending 1/31/14. Still nothing. Makes reading others approvals tough!
PA here.
AAC SBR submitted in Nov
AAC suppressor submitted Dec
Got the call this morning that both are back and ready for custody.
hell yeah.
AAC SBR submitted in Nov
AAC suppressor submitted Dec
Got the call this morning that both are back and ready for custody.
hell yeah.
Mind if I ask what state your in? I'm in PA and I have 2 cans that went pending March 28th.
Flirtin', I'm in PA also. I'd guess you should be real close. My TBAC went pending 2/10 and was approved 7/8.
Yup... Checked cashed 11/24/13, pending 12/31/13, still no love. My efiled suppressor that went pending 4/1/14 did get DISapproved two weeks ago for "revocable" being spelled revocabel".... Talk about salt in the wounds.
Awesome. When I called they told me December so anything before that would be amazing.
Anyone else feel like they're waiting for a baby? I think I need to paint the gun room in perpetration. Maybe I should host a suppressor shower.
Oddly enough, I knocked my wife up a week before I submitted my paper form 4. My can came through on her due date and she's going into labor today. So yes, yes it feels like waiting for a baby haha. Good timing though considering I shoot in the backyard 99% of the time.
I found a little solace in changing my muzzle devices while I was waiting. I bought a couple at a time and it distracted me enough to keep me sane.
my wife and my cans should be due in the same week. Too bad that's fucking February. Gonna have a hard time telling her I gotta go to the range for a bit with a newborn at home
Meh....Not really.... Buy more and spread it out and you always have a new toy. Its really not that big of a deal.
Suppressor: Form 4 Individual
Forms Mailed: 1/16/2014
Check Cashed: 1/24/2014
Pending: N/A
Stamp Received: 8/10/2014
Forms Mailed: 1/16/2014
Check Cashed: 1/24/2014
Pending: N/A
Stamp Received: 8/10/2014
Hell no. Waiting for the baby was a constant stream of stress and crap to do. Waiting for a suppressor is like being told that on some indeterminate day in the future two of the hottest porn stars on the planet are going to show up at your house and run through the Kama sutra with you cover to cover.
Paint the gun room? No sir. Find every available piece of brass and stuff powder and a bullet into it because once it arrives you will be spending so much time on the range your wife will think you are really going to see your mistress. You are.
Just got the call this afternoon. Picking them up tomorrow.
Mailed mid November last year and went pending 1/31/14. Still nothing. Makes reading others approvals tough!
Mailed mid November last year and went pending 1/31/14. Still nothing. Makes reading others approvals tough!
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Hell ya they take walk in's now !
I flew out 2 days ago to the ATF office, handed them my trust forms and 30 minutes later I walked out with all 3 of my stamps ! 10 minutes a stamp ! How crazy is this they even validated my parking, and gave me a free lunch pass.
Well worth the $500 flight, I'm flying back out next week to do a few more stamps.
I flew out 2 days ago to the ATF office, handed them my trust forms and 30 minutes later I walked out with all 3 of my stamps ! 10 minutes a stamp ! How crazy is this they even validated my parking, and gave me a free lunch pass.
Well worth the $500 flight, I'm flying back out next week to do a few more stamps.
One word: STAMPEDE! They're gonna have to call in the St. Louis County Sheriff's dept. ;-)
If they are actually doing walk-ins that quickly there should be no reason whatsoever that the wait time should be 7-10 months for mailed forms.
Im all for efficiency, but starting a new process that circumvents the current wait time is kind of a doucher move.
Then again, that may be a bit of jealousy talking.
Im all for efficiency, but starting a new process that circumvents the current wait time is kind of a doucher move.
Then again, that may be a bit of jealousy talking.
Suppressor: Form 4 Individual
TBAC 30P-1
Forms Mailed: 1/10/2014
Check Cashed: 1/17/14
Pending: N/A
Resent certification of citizenship 07/28/14
Stamp Received: 8/15/2014
TBAC 30P-1
Forms Mailed: 1/10/2014
Check Cashed: 1/17/14
Pending: N/A
Resent certification of citizenship 07/28/14
Stamp Received: 8/15/2014
I suppose the ATF thinks we'll all be happy that its "only" 8 months instead of a year. Some of us remember when it was 2 months, and that was before widespread adoption of computers! I won't be happy until it's REASONABLE again. Everyone with a brain knows it SHOULD be a point of sale item.
They want fingerprints? Then give me a goddamn website to upload fingerprints to at the time I'm doing a NICS... as I can scan them from my customers at the time of sale.
They want pictures of person? SAME!
They want serials of the items sold? SAME!
Everything they want to accomplish with these bullshit background checks could be done via AUTOMATED methods available.
They want fingerprints? Then give me a goddamn website to upload fingerprints to at the time I'm doing a NICS... as I can scan them from my customers at the time of sale.
They want pictures of person? SAME!
They want serials of the items sold? SAME!
Everything they want to accomplish with these bullshit background checks could be done via AUTOMATED methods available.
Clearly you don't understand the purpose of any of the systems that are in place. This rather famous quote should explain:
“The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy.”
I imagine the conversation went something like this:
"Sir - why do we need to charge people $200 for a suppressor?"
"Because we need to pay the examiners."
"Why do we need examiners?"
"Because someone has to approve the forms."
"Then what are the forms for?"
"To get $200 to pay the examiner."
They can have their $200. No one complains about that. The wait time, that is what the complaints are. 8 months is not even close to acceptable.
I believe the original intended purpose of the $200 and form was to have an extra charge against mobsters that were caught when using these items. Also, to deter the general public from having them. Back when the NFA act went into place $200 was a much larger sum.
I do remember the 2 month waits, as recents as 08 and 09... In my stamp collection. I would have to say, in my opinion that is actually not even reasonable given today's technology
I do remember the 2 month waits, as recents as 08 and 09... In my stamp collection. I would have to say, in my opinion that is actually not even reasonable given today's technology
Anyone hear anything or anyone in the know when the ATF will get the form 4 efile up and running? Heck even a ballpark figure?
ATF is rebuilding the eform 3 and 4 modules and were targeting completion within 3-6 months from this past July. I'll believe it when I see it.
Form 4 submitted Nov 22 2013
pending mid Jan
approved Aug. 13 2014
just gotta wait for the phone call from my dealer now...patience is seeming less and less like a virtue...
pending mid Jan
approved Aug. 13 2014
just gotta wait for the phone call from my dealer now...patience is seeming less and less like a virtue...
Form 4 mailed: 12/03/14
Pending: 01/31/14
Approved: 08/19/14
In my grubby little hands: 08/23/14
Examiner: can't decipher the signature
Pending: 01/31/14
Approved: 08/19/14
In my grubby little hands: 08/23/14
Examiner: can't decipher the signature
I'm kicking myself now - wasted 3 weeks by not filing by mail while my SOT was looking into the e-file system, and apparently not getting anywhere. Finally gave up on the 'fantasy' of getting my stamp back in a couple of months via e-file, and mailed Form 4 & check in mid-Feb. Check was cashed 2/19/14, so I'm probably at least another month out before I can go pick up the SF SOCOM 762RC.
I'm liking 3DHUSKER's approach - just keep buyin' them, and you'll always have one coming. Think I need one of the new TBAC CB series cans to go with the BA.
I'm liking 3DHUSKER's approach - just keep buyin' them, and you'll always have one coming. Think I need one of the new TBAC CB series cans to go with the BA.
Form 4 mailed: 22 Nov 2013
Pending: ????
Approved: 8 Aug 2014
In my hands: 26 Aug 2014
AAC Mini-4 for my AR-15 and a TBAC 338BA for my DTA SRS in .338LM and .308. Very excited, time to reload some ammo.
Pending: ????
Approved: 8 Aug 2014
In my hands: 26 Aug 2014
AAC Mini-4 for my AR-15 and a TBAC 338BA for my DTA SRS in .338LM and .308. Very excited, time to reload some ammo.
Form 4 Mailed 8/18
Delivered 8/25
Check cashed 8/27
Form 1 mailed 8/18
delivered 8/26
check cashed ?
What number do you call to find out when it goes pending?
Do they call or notify you if there is something wrong with your process? or do they just mail it back?
Delivered 8/25
Check cashed 8/27
Form 1 mailed 8/18
delivered 8/26
check cashed ?
What number do you call to find out when it goes pending?
Do they call or notify you if there is something wrong with your process? or do they just mail it back?
It generally takes a month or so to go pending after the check has been cashed. There is no way to know if something is wrong after it goes pending until it hits the reviewers desk (the time at which they would approve it). So give a call a month or two from now, make sure it has gone pending (and find out who your assigned reviewer is) then you got to sit tight, and wait for whatever the current lead times are. Calling every other week will not help, I know its hard to do, but don't. Also calling your dealer won't help, because it is completely out of their hands. Use NFAtracker, input your info, and use the wait time predict as a good guideline for what your wait time is going to be. At the point in which 75% of people with your reviewer in the past 6 months have received their suppressor, that would be a good/reasonable time to call and check in. Trust me, it's a pain to wait, but you will gain nothing, except anxiety by constantly calling and checking in. Sit tight, try to forget about it, and pray that everything goes well. That's my experience at least.
NFA # 304 616-4500
You will need your serial #, name of trust (if applicable), and the dealer who you bought it from/is transferring it to you.
Best of luck, trust me it's well worth the wait. You won't shoot any other way. Might as well go ahead and purchase a few more if you have a gun without one.
Quick question about the part in bold. If I'm doing an in-state, individual to individual transfer, would I use the sellers name when calling?
And I have a surplus of patience at this point, I want to see if the NFA beats my gunsmith.
Some encouraging news up above for this PA resident.
Submitted 3/4, cashed 4/4.
Time to stop procrastinating on getting may barrels contoured for my AE22
Submitted 3/4, cashed 4/4.
Time to stop procrastinating on getting may barrels contoured for my AE22
I haven't done a individual/individual, but my assumption would be that they would want the person who is transferring it to you. Maybe someone else can comment on that, but either way that is info I'm sure you know and can provide.
I thought the same thing when I filed mine in nov. last year... Custom rifle build was still being dreamt up, and vortex hadn't even announced the Gen II razor HD 4.5-27.... Got both of those and suppressor "should be by the end of the month". Waiting still sucks... But it's definitely worth it!
Youre telling me... i just finished my 2nd 5 year top secret/ SCI background investigation for the Air Force. They look at everything I have ever done in the last 10 years and expect me to provide witnesses. They've interviewed 20+ people that I know of. But no, I'm sure the ATF will find something in their 3 minutes worth of computer key smashing.
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