GPS for Hiking, Exploring and Hunting.

[Defender32]

Guys the wife and I have really gotten int hiking and exploring more off the grid. No cell service areas or minimal. We have Apple smart phones and one OnX & Avenza Maps for some stuff and it works well but a battery drain and not real precise at times. We have NOT been in a situation where were were lost and worrying. Maybe trekked another 30-45 min to get out to the road but in a good situation.

Looking at stand alone Hand Held units like the Garmin Oregon 750T and a couple of similar versions. We go to the Smokey Mountains and hike a couple of times a year. I plan to go out west the next 2 fall seasons for a couple of weeks. Im just looking for something and trustworthy knowledge, experience you guys might have or can point me in the proper direction.

 

[308pirate]

Guys the wife and I have really gotten int hiking and exploring more off the grid. No cell service areas or minimal. We have Apple smart phones and one OnX & Avenza Maps for some stuff and it works well but a battery drain and not real precise at times. We have NOT been in a situation where were were lost and worrying. Maybe trekked another 30-45 min to get out to the road but in a good situation.

Looking at stand alone Hand Held units like the Garmin Oregon 750T and a couple of similar versions. We go to the Smokey Mountains and hike a couple of times a year. I plan to go out west the next 2 fall seasons for a couple of weeks. Im just looking for something and trustworthy knowledge, experience you guys might have or can point me in the proper direction.

Do you have real topographic maps, a quality compass, and the knowledge to use them effectively?

 

[Defender32]

Do you have real topographic maps, a quality compass, and the knowledge to use them effectively?

I have maps to the places we have been and a quality compass. It is slow but does come back to me. Boy Scout days were years ago, but some of it did stick in the grey matter and comes to the top when called for. I will no where near say it is quick but I can get by in a pinch.

 

[rustyinbend]

Love my Garmin Montana ... sounds like it would be perfect. Not cheap, but worth it. We take it horseback riding in the BLM wilderness, and it's saved our asses multiple times. It's got one of those displays that's easy to read without backlighting, even in bright sun, so the battery life is really impressive.

 

[davsco]

gaia phone app. way more intuitive than any gps i've used, and you get the phone's larger screen.

 

[rustyinbend]

gaia phone app. way more intuitive than any gps i've used, and you get the phone's larger screen.

Only issue there is cell coverage in some of the places we go ... where GPS is the only solution.

 

[308pirate]

LOL @ people relying on phones and GPS as their primary means of navigation.

 

[Defender32]

Love my Garmin Montana ... sounds like it would be perfect. Not cheap, but worth it. We take it horseback riding in the BLM wilderness, and it's saved our asses multiple times. It's got one of those displays that's easy to read without backlighting, even in bright sun, so the battery life is really impressive.

I see a couple of different Montana Models. Which one specifically do you have. I am a Buy Once Cry Once type of person.

 

[_Windrider_]

I see a couple of different Montana Models. Which one specifically do you have. I am a Buy Once Cry Once type of person.

There is a really good option in the PX for sale. It’s a garmin in reach which has the satellite communication capability for messages and distress signals as well as offline maps.

id also recommend a dual electronics Bluetooth GPS antenna which you can connect to your phone/iPad for go’s data where phone service isn’t available. apps like Gaia and Earthmate let you download maps for offline use and paired with this gps antenna allows for navigation.

and yeah, compass and map should always be in your kit and should be practiced for proficiency there are plenty of technology solutions thAt work reliable. 1 is none 2 is one. I usually have at least 3 methods.

 

[Defender32]

There is a really good option in the PX for sale. It’s a garmin in reach which has the satellite communication capability for messages and distress signals as well as offline maps.

id also recommend a dual electronics Bluetooth GPS antenna which you can connect to your phone/iPad for go’s data where phone service isn’t available. apps like Gaia and Earthmate let you download maps for offline use and paired with this gps antenna allows for navigation.

and yeah, compass and map should always be in your kit and should be practiced for proficiency there are plenty of technology solutions thAt work reliable. 1 is none 2 is one. I usually have at least 3 methods.

Referring to the Rhino???

 

[_Windrider_]

Referring to the Rhino???

No not the rhino but it’s similar.
It’s this one, I’ll try and find PX listing if it’s still active

Garmin inReach Explorer®+ | Satellite Communicator with TOPO Maps

inReach Explorer®+ is a satellite communicator featuring TOPO maps. This device is your go-to connection for off-the-grid contact.

buy.garmin.com

The Bluetooth one is this (I used to use it for aviation as well but now I have a better version but this is perfect for hiking).

XGPS150A<br/>Universal GPS Receiver — Dual GPS Solutions

The Universal Bluetooth GPS Receiver wirelessly adds highly-accurate GPS to devices, allowing them to be used with apps that require GPS, including apps for aviation, car and marine navigation, golfing, geocaching, hiking, biking and other activities.

www.dualgpssolutions.com

 

[stefan73]

A compass, map and protractor along with knowledge of how to terrain associate. GPS is only a confirmation tool and batteries along with digital systems fail. Knowing how to land navigate is important. Just my .02

I like what Dillhole wrote above.

 

[_Windrider_]

Found the PX listing

Accessories - Garmin inreach explorer+ $350/offer

Selling my garmin inreach. I bought it for an Elk hunt and it works great. I don’t have any use for it anymore. Asking $350 but will consider reasonable offers. Thanks

www.snipershide.com

 

[Skg_Mre_Lght]

My wife and I both have Garmin GPSMAP 66i InReach units. We spend alot of time in wilderness areas here in Wyoming, and the SOS feature couple with texting capability made it stand out to us. We also use OnX during hunting season when we aren't in large swaths of National Forest and need to see landowner boundaries.

Map and compass are a necessity and you should become proficient with them, but you'd be dumb not to have a GPS with you, preferably one with an SOS feature depending on the remoteness of the area.

 

[Foul Mike]

I do a lot of archaeolgy shit and am always amazed how well the OLD guys did it with a Quad. map and a compass and shooting azmiths and that is how I did it for many years and still do it to this day, as well as the GPS data that was not around back then but is here now. Now, I realize I am one of those OLD guys but I am on top of GPS too and use it a lot. Never too old to learn, and this GPS is a much better system and much more accurate for me. but I do know how to go back to the old basics, need be.
Too many of you younger people don't know how to read a map and use a compass. That is OLD Fossil shit and worthless.! "I have it on an APE here." so I am good to go.??? What happens when you are not in an area that doesn't have cellphone reception?? like out in the Boonies? under the trees.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for new tech. and use it extensivly, but I will never rely on it. alway be backed up by that compass. Which way is North?
Who do you want to to show you the way out of the Boonies? The asshole with an APP or the one that knows how to read a map and compass?
Too much reliance is placed on the cell phone and not enough placed on knowing which direction is North.
What happens when your electronic device has no reception?
Are you now lost?

 

[strikeeagle1]

In 2021 maps and land navigation is all good well, but sometimes you need 911 assistance a few minutes ago, topo maps and compass are not going to get the mission done. Sometimes you just have to tell the old lady ( who usually knows just how much coin you are spending on the hobby) , "I'm going to get off my wallet and provide you as much ASAP technology that is available, just in case"...better than sending roses. I use an Iridium Extreme sat phone (small, waterproof, talk / text, SOS capable with pre-loaded contacts, and 911 direct capable in north america, GPS coordinates can be texted to anyone with Google map location with a couple of meters), Garmin GPS backup (use different satellite constellation), Cammenga compass, pacing beads for the die hards, etc. blend of old school / new school depending on pace of need to extract oneself from misery. Also carry an ACR SARlink Epirb that too has GPS coordinate (a third different satellite constellation used). Old Glory in OD is a nice touch to protect the GPS screen.

 

[Hairball]

I also carry a Garmin inReach Explorer+ on occasion. I only need the satellite comms for emergencies so my data plan is 12 dollars or so each month in order to keep it active at all times.

 

[davsco]

Only issue there is cell coverage in some of the places we go ... where GPS is the only solution.

don't need cell coverage, matter of fact i put it on airline mode to save battery, have been using mine out in nowhere nw colo elk hunting the last 3 years. had an actual gps with me the first year and figured out, at least for my needs, the phone/gaia did everything better and easier.

 

[Foul Mike]

I am glad it is working out well for you.
I haven't figured it all out yet but am working on it and know I have a lot to learn.
What I do know is how a mag compass works and mag declination and which way is North without an electronic device and never rely on that as it may fail, but North is still North on my compass.
You do you, and I will do me, and I don't have to rely on sat. signals nor tree cover etc. to know where I am.
I am back to basics and will go from there but will use the better shit when I have it.
When in doubt I wait until after dark and look for the North star. It is always there if I can see the stars and use it to figure out mag declination.

 

[Chief_Rick]

don't need cell coverage, matter of fact i put it on airline mode to save battery, have been using mine out in nowhere nw colo elk hunting the last 3 years. had an actual gps with me the first year and figured out, at least for my needs, the phone/gaia did everything better and easier.

Is it like Google maps in that you only need to download maps of the area you're going to be in in order to use it without cell service?

 

[hunter1959]

I have maps to the places we have been and a quality compass. It is slow but does come back to me. Boy Scout days were years ago, but some of it did stick in the grey matter and comes to the top when called for. I will no where near say it is quick but I can get by in a pinch.

308pirate is precisely correct... relying on electronics may be convenient, but not absolute... satellites can and do take hits and go down.... reliable, old school means of compass and pacing with topographics is sound... at sea, celestial with the proper tables and tools will not go wrong.... it is still taught... he is giving you good advice

 

[Skg_Mre_Lght]

Is it like Google maps in that you only need to download maps of the area you're going to be in in order to use it without cell service?

Yeah. Onx on your phone actually has more features than the GPS chip, but you have access to both when you buy the chip.

 

[lht645]

Honestly get away from all the tech, map and compass is the only way to go. I was SAR in california back in the early 90's. I had a gps but I almost never used it. I worked as a navigator at sea for decades as well conducting search ops. Technology is great but it can let you down. If you can't travel without it you don't belong out there. Get an ACR if you want additional safety but learn the craft of land nav and you'll have a much better experience in the backcountry.
Get "Mountaineering the freedom of the hills "and read it. Then put it into practice. Knowing your woodcraft will give you confidence in yourself and much more enjoyment afield.

 

[skatz11]

No not the rhino but it’s similar.
It’s this one, I’ll try and find PX listing if it’s still active

Garmin inReach Explorer®+ | Satellite Communicator with TOPO Maps

inReach Explorer®+ is a satellite communicator featuring TOPO maps. This device is your go-to connection for off-the-grid contact.

buy.garmin.com

The Bluetooth one is this (I used to use it for aviation as well but now I have a better version but this is perfect for hiking).

XGPS150A<br/>Universal GPS Receiver — Dual GPS Solutions

The Universal Bluetooth GPS Receiver wirelessly adds highly-accurate GPS to devices, allowing them to be used with apps that require GPS, including apps for aviation, car and marine navigation, golfing, geocaching, hiking, biking and other activities.

www.dualgpssolutions.com

I just ordered the Dual GPS that looks like slick solution for GPS coverage when out of cell service. If I spent a significant time going backcountry stuff a dedicated GSP/Emergency message would make sense.

 

[_Windrider_]

I just ordered the Dual GPS that looks like slick solution for GPS coverage when out of cell service. If I spent a significant time going backcountry stuff a dedicated GSP/Emergency message would make sense.

I recommend carrying a small battery pack for charging. It is Bluetooth so it can drain batteries. I carry an Anker 10k mAh battery pack and it’ll charge all devices for a 3 day trip.

i mount the dual unit on top of my pack or shoulder strap so it can see the sky while walking.

 

[Defender32]

I understand the Map & Compass use. I am looking for GPS as an option. All the opinions are great and work well. A SAT phone is one thing I have also thought about adding as a backup for the CB/ HAM in the Jeep. I am in West Ky for almost all my adventuring and I know this area like the back of my hand. It is when we go to new areas that a GPS will make a QUICK backup and the SOS features make the wife feel good that she could use it if needed. She won’t adventure out without me at this time.

 

[GrumpyOleFart]

 

[GrumpyOleFart]

Learn the Sun,Stick,Shadow,Stone, method for locating your NSEW bearings during the day.
Navigation stars for night time.
It's interesting stuff.
A personal rescue beacon isn't a bad idea, if shit gets gnarly.
And of course a decent IFAK.
My Camelbak goes everywhere with me, and I keep my essentials in it.
One of the best pieces of kit I have.

 

[pmclaine]

Ive used these guys....

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and ordered a custom map of the property my son and I camp.

Very detailed, would be great for navigation, I got waterproofed paper and it is durable.

Very useful for planning a trip into an area.

......unfortunately I cant remember where I put the dam map in my camping shit

 

[AFGWS]

I'll throw another recommendation for the Garmin inReach Explorer+. I do some hunting out west, and having this puts my wife at ease when I'm out solo. During the season, I pay the unlimited text, and she gets a link that will give her a position update every 10 minutes. It also has the sos feature in case there is an emergency. I've haven't had any issues and battery life is very good. I do carry an Anker battery pack in case I need it, but that is just incase.

 

[Heavyopp]

Only issue there is cell coverage in some of the places we go ... where GPS is the only solution.

Nope — can download maps to whatever detail desired — no need for service

 

[bantaman2]

Everyone wants to tell you how cool they are with their in depth knowledge of natural navigation.

but to answer the question you actually asked:

garmin MAP 66i. It is a full GPS with the addition of a satellite communicator for SOS or brief text messages. At $600 it is expensive, but it will give you piece of mind knowing you have the best equipment.

 

[Defender32]

Everyone wants to tell you how cool they are with their in depth knowledge of natural navigation.

but to answer the question you actually asked:

garmin MAP 66i. It is a full GPS with the addition of a satellite communicator for SOS or brief text messages. At $600 it is expensive, but it will give you piece of mind knowing you have the best equipment.

Appreciate it.
I know how to use the OLD ways that never fail enough to get by if I have to go that rout. I understand that technology can & will fail. It is nice to have a quick to aid in saving your life or someone else’s. There is a reason most rescue personnel carry them into the back country to rescue hikers. They work for their intended use.

 

[Jigstick]

I prefer a good map, compass, and protractor paired with a Garmin Fortrex 401-601-701. A Casio watch with an altimeter finishes it off.

learn to read UTM grid coordinates and know your pace count.

 

[Hairball]

Also have a Francis Barker M73. Great compass but I need to send mine in and get the tritium replaced as mine is no longer visible.

 

[GrumpyOleFart]

I print out a map of where I am going.
Been teaching my Babe how to navigate, and read contour lines.
She is really enjoying it, and starting to really look at terrain now.
I know it's easy to just wave a gadget and get your answer that way.
I find using a compass and map fun.

 

[GrumpyOleFart]

A decent compass is a good thing to have.

 

[4ester]

I sold my gps years ago and don’t miss it at all.

I use an iPhone with Basemap, download the general areas I’m heading into, resolution depending on what I’m doing. Add layers of Topo, aerial view, hunt areas, trails, etc. Run in airplane mode. Tracking kills your battery, so avoid that.

I always take my 10k Anker charger in case the battery dies. Easily 4 charges to get me a week backpacking. Your gonna take your phone anyway, so one less thing to carry.

Add a satellite link and it can be your emergency beacon and contact to others at all times.

 

[Defender32]

Found the PX listing

Accessories - Garmin inreach explorer+ $350/offer

Selling my garmin inreach. I bought it for an Elk hunt and it works great. I don’t have any use for it anymore. Asking $350 but will consider reasonable offers. Thanks

www.snipershide.com

I have worked a deal on this one here. Appreciate the heads up. It will be a great addition to the pack.

 

[flyfisher117]

I have worked a deal on this one here. Appreciate the heads up. It will be a great addition to the pack.

Awesome. Been wanting to snag an Inreach mini myself.

 

[bohica17]

I have maps to the places we have been and a quality compass. It is slow but does come back to me. Boy Scout days were years ago, but some of it did stick in the grey matter and comes to the top when called for. I will no where near say it is quick but I can get by in a pinch.

That’s all you need, I would get a wrist garmin foretrex. Input where you want to go and just terrain associate. If you happen to get lost pull a ten digit from the garmin plot that on map bingo not lost anymore