Help being sent to Texas

Foul Mike

Foul Mike

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#1
We have a fire/rescue truck on it's way to Texas. I am all for help your neighbor but wonder how a thing like that is funded.
Is it a Federal thing such as FEMA?
Colorado to Houston Texas is a long way and who pays for the trucks and firefighters and all of their expenses?
I am not bitching that they are going, in fact I am glad they are going as we in my small town were helped big time after a flood here a few years ago by various agencies from out of town.
I am just wondering how the funding for missions such as this are handled. FM
PS God bless the Salvation Army. They were the biggest help during our disaster and asked for nothing. I donate to them often as much as I can.
 
#2
Our FD is sending some folks from VT down to Houston. Meeting up with a bunch of other VTers. They are paying their own way (several trucks/4 x 4's... not fire trucks.) When they get there, they will have food kitchens and stuff to eat at set up by more volunteers. We had a bunch of folks who went down to NO during Katrina (me included). Paid our own way. Ate well from places like Salvation Army and Red Cross. The very definition of neighbors helping neighbors.

I am really pissed that the Gov. of Texas said EVACUATE... which was the right call. And the Mayor of Houston (leftist Harvard Obama Dem) said to "Stay home, do not leave"... In other words... Drown for the cameras so you need to be rescued on live TV and we can blame Trump. That city should have been EMPTIED.

Yeah, I know... impossible. 8M people. The 5th Ward makes New Orleans look like Monaco. But telling people to stay in their homes was stupid... more likely, contrived political decision designed to let people suffer to score political points against the Admin.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
#3
never let a crisis go to waste, appreciate the help but I suspect this will be used by the politicians from Texas/Louisiana that reside in DC to justify a drunken spending spree. The federal government should not be invoolved in natural disaster recovery or financing, its un Constitutional and a fuking scam.
 
#5
#7
During Katrina I volunteered with the R/C to drive my own van down loaded with stuff. They wouldnt allow that and told me here's a ticket to fly. I told them " I dont fly." but Ill drive. Not acceptable tto them so I didnt go. A bit stiff for my tastes but they do good work. The Salvation Army is where I give a lot, they really put the rubber where it meets the road.
 
#8
I work for Southeastern Freight Lines and will hopefully be heading to the gulf coast next week? I'm stationed out of lubbock Tx. I plan to load my truck down with water, food, and clothes. Anything I can fit to try and help out. If anyone would like to pitch in I'd happy to handle the leg work. Thanks

Joe
 
#9
Maggot said:
During Katrina I volunteered with the R/C to drive my own van down loaded with stuff. They wouldnt allow that and told me here's a ticket to fly. I told them " I dont fly." but Ill drive. Not acceptable tto them so I didnt go. A bit stiff for my tastes but they do good work. The Salvation Army is where I give a lot, they really put the rubber where it meets the road.
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The Salvation Army is where to send your money if you want the most possible amount to be put towards the cause you specified.

The Red cross is... well let's just say after 9/11 one of the heads of the American branch was hauled up before congress where they admitted that the money sent for their "9/11 heroes" fund or such actually didn't go to any victims but went to their own coffers to replace "other money they had spent on aid and such".

In my opinion, the smaller and more local the relief organization is, the more likely they are to be doing good.
 
#11
ArmyJerry said:
The federal government should not be invoolved in natural disaster recovery or financing, its un Constitutional and a fuking scam.
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Here I have to respectfully disagree, Army... this is exactly what government should do. Not necessarily federal... but this is what we should expect. Help for the unexpected, the unfathomable and the un-predictable.

Years ago Newt Gingrich had one of the best lines that I ever heard from a politician. It was that government aid needed to be a safety net, not a hammock.

Lots of good people who paid taxes all their lives need help. From fellow citizens... and from our elected bodies.

Should it turn into a political vote-buy? No. Should it turn into permanent aid? No. Should it be used for grandstanding, etc. Well, it shouldn't be but it will.

In the end... it is things like this that I will argue government should be doing. Along with building roads, putting out fires, protecting our borders and keeping our neighborhoods safe. The days of total laissez-faire capitalism proved that there is a need, at some level, for government assistance. A balance that I believe can be struck appropriately. Though the pendulum, clearly, has swung too far towards socialism... and the moonbats want to go further. Which is wrong.

But this is a perfect opportunity to show a constructive side of a government organization... not all the B.S. of wanton regulations, un-constitutional over-reaches and political hack-ism.

In greatest respect,

Sirhr
 
#12
Well guys I am kind of sorry I put my original post up. I didn't mean to rough up anyone's feathers.
I totally agree that the Red Cross sucks and they will never see a dime from me, whereas, I make regular contributions to the Salvation Army and have been known to go work with them on occasion with my wife. We both have our own Red aprons.
I commend anyone that takes their own time and money to go to events like this and I do understand that a lot of it is all out of their own pockets, however, I would still like to know how these various agencies are funded as to fuel, truck repairs, the occasional blown tire etc. Someone has to pay for all of those sorts of things.
We have wild fires up here every once in a while and it is always all hands on deck until the incident is taken care of. Fire Depts. from near and far come and do it, often at the expense of going home only to find that their house has burned to the ground while they were out protecting others.
So, back to my original question??? Are there intergovernment agreements as to fuel and wear and tear or does that fall back on what ever agency owns the truck or airplane? as in the case of wild fires.
Does some Federal or State agency fall into place after the event is over and dole out funding to cover these costs to out of area agencies? How does this work?
Perhaps re-read my original post and see what you can come up with. FM Thanks Sirh.
 
#13
It came on the late night news tonight that our truck and crew with high water rescue equipment was on the way but turned back as Texas had not requested them so some of the answers to questions I asked are being answered in a roundabout way.
I guess they have plenty of help and need to request services from out of state agencies and we are too far away.
Glad they have plenty of help. FM
 
#14
Foul Mike said:
It came on the late night news tonight that our truck and crew with high water rescue equipment was on the way but turned back as Texas had not requested them so some of the answers to questions I asked are being answered in a roundabout way.
I guess they have plenty of help and need to request services from out of state agencies and we are too far away.
Glad they have plenty of help. FM
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Wow that's totally the opposite of what the news is reporting here, they're saying that the first responders are overwhelmed don't have nearly the resources they need and they need all the help they can get.
 
#15
like I said above Mike, its a local crisis getting turned into a national fleecing by the two mafia families in DC.
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