Holy smokes, DPMS G2 rifles

DPMS makes a fantastic product. I had an Oracle 5.56 I threw a Timney trigger and quad-rail on it with a bipod, and one day threw my leupold mark 4 on there to see what she would do. It held an inch or better with good factory ammo. I was blown away. Function was flawless as well. Glad to see a company make a good product with a fair price tag.
 
I am curious to find out if anyone knows where one might acquire one of the new GII uppers?
I am thinking of doing the new recon for general work (especially pigs), but building my own 7-08 upper to place on for more surgical work.
 
I am curious to find out if anyone knows where one might acquire one of the new GII uppers?
I am thinking of doing the new recon for general work (especially pigs), but building my own 7-08 upper to place on for more surgical work.

You should be able to strike a great deal with a dealer - I bought my G2 Recon for $1400 and got it in one week. Point being, I did all the math and there was no downside to buying the Recon financially in terms of parts. None.

You will not be able to build or custom order a more accurate or lethal semi-auto AR with a 16" barrel for that kind of money guaranteed. Not close.
 
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One.thing I have noticed with my Gen 2 is that it does not need to run "wet". Quite the opposite. In terms of the BCG I pull it out, wash it all down with solvent and dry with compressed air. Reassemble. Put one or two drops of lube on the cam pin. Put a very light film of white lithium grease on the four external rail lugs of the BCG and on top of the charging handle.

DPMS Gen 2's work better drier than wetter from my own personal experience. The BCG is a monolithic billet piece ( integral gas key ) that is Teflon coated along with the upper and lower receiver.

It seems to run clean in that a solvent wash is all that is required - no scrubbing.

And yes, it ejects brass with serious conviction. Twin ejector springs.
 
DPMS is showing that their G2 barrel nut is now available for purchase. Has anyone actually swapped out the HG on one of the AP4 models with the Samson Evo rail or similar? I just want to verify that an AR15 rail will in fact mate up with the G2 barrel nut before I buy the nut and rail for my G2 Recon.
 
I heard from DPMS and Samson today. There is some confusion out there about what AR15 HG's will actually work on the G2. DPMS says that only "drop in" HG's will fit the AP4 barrel nut. The lady on the phone gave me the example of the MOE HG. There are raised ridges behind the teeth and an extension in front of the teeth that prevent the Troy and VTac Alpha and Bravo rails from working. Samson makes a special thermal bushing that works with the G2 barrel nut and they currently have 12.37" & 15" EVO hand guards ready to ship. The other issue is the thickness of the upper receiver where standard AR15 HG's sit with their anti rotation tabs that fit next to the upper and below the top rail. Samson has made this modification to their EVO for the G2 this their standard AR15 EVO will not work on the G2.

I was happy to hear that Samson is making an EVO HG for the G2. I am sure several companies will be producing your favorite HG here soon for the G2.
 
Just picked up my GII recon .308, put my 3.5-21 HDMR on it zeroed it and shot a few groups, I was rushed as it was at the end of my range day but a guesstimate is right at 1-1.25 3rd group was my best, only 20 rds down the tube at this point. Biggest issue is being a lefty and the brass hits my right cheek every round. Not painful but annoying as hell. Any ideas for a fix?

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I used this target to verify my velocity. I fired 2 - 5 shot groups and used "On Target" to measure the group and find it's center.

DPMS G-2 Hunter
150 Remington CoreLok ( I bought these bulk about 20 years ago for .03 / ea
43 gr. IMR 4064
Fed 210M
LC-85 cases
bullet seated to cannelure with medium lee factory crimp

I fired the first (larger group marked #2) in a windy condition and waited for the conditions to settle out for the smaller group.
Using Applied Ballistics App for Android I entered the total drop and came up with 2585 fps

 
Just picked up my GII recon .308, put my 3.5-21 HDMR on it zeroed it and shot a few groups, I was rushed as it was at the end of my range day but a guesstimate is right at 1-1.25 3rd group was my best, only 20 rds down the tube at this point. Biggest issue is being a lefty and the brass hits my right cheek every round. Not painful but annoying as hell. Any ideas for a fix?
Yes,
Get a brass catcher. It's not an ideal solution, but it works. The ideal solution is to buy or make a custom lefty build.

To get you started:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=brass catcher for ar15
 
Yes,
Get a brass catcher. It's not an ideal solution, but it works. The ideal solution is to buy or make a custom lefty build.

To get you started:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=brass catcher for ar15

While I appreciate the reply, is rather get hit in the face than install one of those. Unfortunately the GII doesn't come in a left hand version and the whole point is to have an extremely light .308 rifle for out to 750 or so which this should do well. I might try a brass deflector or maybe attempt an adjustable gas block.
 
I was at Cabelas earlier and noticed the hunter model on the shelf and remembered this thread. All I can say is DAMN that thing was light. I was there to pick up a gun I had shipped in or I might have picked one up to try. I noticed a few things different over the standard 308 DPMS thing beside it but it was a decent looking/feeling package.
 
While I appreciate the reply, is rather get hit in the face than install one of those. Unfortunately the GII doesn't come in a left hand version and the whole point is to have an extremely light .308 rifle for out to 750 or so which this should do well. I might try a brass deflector or maybe attempt an adjustable gas block.

I was having the same problem with mine (G-2 Hunter) and even wrote to DPMS about it. The tech wrote back saying that he was a lefty and while the brass from his G-2 came close it hadn't hit him yet.... WOW... and that from a DPMS tech.

Anyway, I did find a cure for my rifle and it was dick simple..... and don't laugh until you try it. I lubed the 2 ejectors with some Rem-Oil and the rifle started ejecting at 3:30 to 4:00.
 
I was having the same problem with mine (G-2 Hunter) and even wrote to DPMS about it. The tech wrote back saying that he was a lefty and while the brass from his G-2 came close it hadn't hit him yet.... WOW... and that from a DPMS tech.

Anyway, I did find a cure for my rifle and it was dick simple..... and don't laugh until you try it. I lubed the 2 ejectors with some Rem-Oil and the rifle started ejecting at 3:30 to 4:00.

Man I appreciate it I'll give that a try on my days off.
 
From what I've heard due to the unique barrel nut options for free floating are limited. But samson did modify there rail to work on the gen two. DPMS LR-G2 : Samson Manufacturing
I contacted dpms about a potential list of free float rails that would work and I got stoned walled. It would appear that advertisement is for the standard two piece handgaurd on their carbine model. Let me know if you know something I don't.
 
From what I've heard due to the unique barrel nut options for free floating are limited. But samson did modify there rail to work on the gen two. DPMS LR-G2 : Samson Manufacturing
I contacted dpms about a potential list of free float rails that would work and I got stoned walled. It would appear that advertisement is for the standard two piece handgaurd on their carbine model. Let me know if you know something I don't.

DPMS has worked with several manufacturers to provide them with dims for the barrel nut in order to kick-start the after-market supply of handguards for this system.

Midwest Industries and Sampson are at least 2 that I know of, and they both have been shipping product.
 
Hey guys this may be the right place to post this. I just bought a lr g2 and have a pretty serious short stroke problem. I took her out today for the first time with some Winchester 147 gr 7.62 and hornady 168 gr. I started with the 147's and immediately found that a round would eject but the next round didn't get stripped from the mag. This was every round. I initially thought magazine so luckily I brought the pmags I bought...same issue. Next I went to the 168gr and had better luck but nowhere near 100%, maybe 60%. Put 60 rounds through it like this and very frustrated. FYI gas block is in proper position (it looks like it anyway) and tight, buffer and spring are the proper size. She was a little drier than I usually have an ar but I can't imagine that would cause all that. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Ps accuracy was outstanding. Only took 10 rounds to zero and get me on target at 300 yds getting just under Moa just off a bipod in the dirt!
 
Ok so here's the deal. I went to the store and got a ton of factory rounds. Everything from 125 gr (didn't think it'd cycle with those and I was right haha) to 180gr. Lubed the hell out of it and hit the range. All was good with 150 gr and up for about 20 rds, then the problem was back. So I stripped it down, wiped off the oil and relubed and bingo, she's eating everything no problem other than the 125s. Even cycling reloads I made up for my 5r! Anyway I'm guessing it was just a break in thing as well as lube like birddog said. So anyone else having this problem out of the box just hang in there and simply lube, shoot, clean off lube and repeat till it's working right.
 
All finished in its final form, another range trip this weekend to rezero, and get the BUIS sighted in.

I'll have to try some basic trigger enhancements, but It's hard to not go with a Geiselle after using them in the past.

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How well does that finish hold up to moderate usage? And what sort of prep work needs to be done before application? Sure looks nice!

Cheers,

George
 
All finished in its final form, another range trip this weekend to rezero, and get the BUIS sighted in.

I'll have to try some basic trigger enhancements, but It's hard to not go with a Geiselle after using them in the past.

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I have a GII Bull on the way as well. I really like the butt stock you have, what make and model is it? I also like the way you finished it all off!

Cheers,

George
 
I have a GII Bull on the way as well. I really like the butt stock you have, what make and model is it? I also like the way you finished it all off!

Cheers,

George

It holds up well to moderate usage, its biggest weakness is harsh chemicals, but holds up okay to standard cleaning chemicals. Good prep is the key to any good finish. you could just spray it on, but I wouldn't expect it to stick well to oily metal. I disassembled, degreased, and scuffed the smooth surfaces. I didn't go as far as sandblasting the parts as you would with cerekote, but you could go that far if you like. The finish will scuff and scratch on hard use areas, but that's expected for any finish if you hit the deck hard, especially on plastics where the surface gives a little.

The stock is a LUTH-AR MBA
 
Which buttstock is that?


Added a few more mods. A 15" MI keymod rail, Sierra Precision grip, Badger Latch, and BUIS. I'm awaiting a keymod bipod stud to finish it off, its just resting on the harris now. Then I'm blasting the whole thing in FDE.

I got the rifle for $1050 and then subtract the $50 DPMS rebate. Things added up though, and where its at now is $1700 not counting the glass. Making it about $100 cheaper than the low market price on a G2 SASS, but then again the barrel isn't threaded and doesn't have a muzzle device.

The factory free float was a PITA to remove, since I don't have an action block to secure this upper in a vice. I had to come up with a homebrew solution and needed to buy a strap wrench to remove it.

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I was having the same problem with mine (G-2 Hunter) and even wrote to DPMS about it. The tech wrote back saying that he was a lefty and while the brass from his G-2 came close it hadn't hit him yet.... WOW... and that from a DPMS tech.

Anyway, I did find a cure for my rifle and it was dick simple..... and don't laugh until you try it. I lubed the 2 ejectors with some Rem-Oil and the rifle started ejecting at 3:30 to 4:00.

Just ran 10 rounds through it after lubing the ejectors and bingo problem solved! Thanks again!
 
I've got a G2 SASS on the way thanks to this thread. I had also been considering a LMT MWS and the previous generation DPMS models but all the excellent feedback on the G2 rifles swayed me. I can't wait to get it, toss a scope on it and throw some 7.62 down range.

I went with the SASS because I want to shoot it short range and out to 600 yards, maybe even longer so the 18" heavy fluted barrel, Harris bipod and PRS stock were key deciding factors over the G2 Bull, Hunter and Recon.

I'm a left handed shot due to being left eye dominant so now I'm on the lookout for an ambi charging handle. I have a BCM gunfighter ambi on my 5.56 Rock River AR but I don't think they have one for the G2. Any other lefties out there find a lefty or ambi charging handle for your G2 or come up with a solution?

Thanks

JP
 
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Added a few more mods. A 15" MI keymod rail, Sierra Precision grip, Badger Latch, and BUIS. I'm awaiting a keymod bipod stud to finish it off, its just resting on the harris now. Then I'm blasting the whole thing in FDE.

I got the rifle for $1050 and then subtract the $50 DPMS rebate. Things added up though, and where its at now is $1700 not counting the glass. Making it about $100 cheaper than the low market price on a G2 SASS, but then again the barrel isn't threaded and doesn't have a muzzle device.

The factory free float was a PITA to remove, since I don't have an action block to secure this upper in a vice. I had to come up with a homebrew solution and needed to buy a strap wrench to remove it.

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Okay ApacheDriver,
I need to pick your brain a bit more. I looked on the Midwest site, but can't find which hand guard you used. I really like your build and want to build my Bull pretty much the same. Tell me which hand guard and parts I need to order. Sorry to be such a pain, but this is my first one, so I'm learning a lot for the next one!

Thanks,

George
 
Its this one here, I am using the 15" which will cover the gasblock. You need a low profile gas block to do this though, or you could just get the 12"

Okay ApacheDriver,
I need to pick your brain a bit more. I looked on the Midwest site, but can't find which hand guard you used. I really like your build and want to build my Bull pretty much the same. Tell me which hand guard and parts I need to order. Sorry to be such a pain, but this is my first one, so I'm learning a lot for the next one!

Thanks,
George
 
Added a few more mods. A 15" MI keymod rail, Sierra Precision grip, Badger Latch, and BUIS. I'm awaiting a keymod bipod stud to finish it off, its just resting on the harris now. Then I'm blasting the whole thing in FDE.

I got the rifle for $1050 and then subtract the $50 DPMS rebate. Things added up though, and where its at now is $1700 not counting the glass. Making it about $100 cheaper than the low market price on a G2 SASS, but then again the barrel isn't threaded and doesn't have a muzzle device.

The factory free float was a PITA to remove, since I don't have an action block to secure this upper in a vice. I had to come up with a homebrew solution and needed to buy a strap wrench to remove it.

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Hey thanks, one last question, what iron sights did you use?

Thanks again,

George
 
600 yards is a walk in the park for the SASS.

175gr SMK's and 900 to a 1000 is where it gets fun.

175 SMKs are exactly what I'll be using in my reloads. I've signed up for a course through the Sig Sauer Academy near me called Reach for a 1000 where they instruct on how to shoot long range. We get to shoot at distances of 100, 300, 500, 800 and 1000 yards. I was planning on running the custom 300 WM bolt action I'm currently having built and my 308 bolt action but maybe I'll bring the SASS instead of the 308. I can't wait!

I'm curious, what powder do you use and how much? I'm new to reloading so I'd love to know what works well for others in this rifle to give me a starting point. I've got some Varget powder that I was planning to use.
 
All finished in its final form, another range trip this weekend to rezero, and get the BUIS sighted in.

I'll have to try some basic trigger enhancements, but It's hard to not go with a Geiselle after using them in the past.

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Awesome piece of gear right there!!, i just change my mind between the SASS of the Hunter/BULL
 
So I have recently started upgrading my G2 Recon. I swapped out the buffer tube for a milspec as I had a STR stock sitting around, added a Tubbs recoil spring, and a badger tac latch and discovered a major issue. When I rack the bolt carrier all the way back, the carrier gets stuck in the buffer tube. I looked at the rifle and found that the upward torque applied from the hammer produces a slight angle and caused the top of the carrier to pin against the top of the buffer tube. Has anyone else had this issue? Can anyone suggest a solution? I thought about sanding the inside of the buffer tube to gain a little clearance. I don't have that many rounds through it, less than 50. Maybe it will break in?

I measured it and the bolt face is 0.2665" behind the bolt catch when it is fully locked back/stuck.

Thanks
 
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I'm using 43.5grs. of Ramshot Tac for the 175's. But there are some good recipes for Varget.

In this market, you use what you can find. Tac and H335 are identical. You can pretty much use the same recipe for them. You can stuff n a little more Reloder15 and squeek out a tad more velocity. Same for Ramshot Big Game, but it's hard to find. Lots of good powders out there.

That school should be good fun. There is a huge trend towards smaller and faster in the PRS circles. It's all about the 6.5 and .260. But the .308 is still great fun.

A buddy and I were shooting a 6" steel plate at 500 yards last night with my SASS. Elevation on the dope was money, but the FV crosswind gusting from 8 to 13mph kept us on our toes at making the wind calls. The wind was blowing the bullet anywhere from 10 to 24". Making that 6" plate seem awfully small. We gave it hell though.

Yep, that's the go now days, run what you can get. I've been able to get some IMR4064 that should work pretty well. I'm still in the gun build so I haven't tried it yet.


Cheers,

George