I could give a fuck about Khashoggi

[boomer81]

Liberals dont ever want to call out the atrocities of radical islam unless its good for them. Why should i give a fuck about a so called journalist of some leftist rag.

He ran his mouth talked shit knew what he was doing and then walked into their house just to thumb his fuckin nose.

Thats what used to happen here You stole a horse you got the noose It kept stupid people in check. Why should we jeopardize the the thousands of jobs income and relationships with the saudis. Over one dead raghead. That knew the consequences of his actions. Just cause there are alot of pc pussies over here dont mean the rest of the world is this way. Ya talk shit ya get hit muthafucka.

 

[boomer81]

P.s i dont love the saudis i think we should crush the whole mideast and pillage all of their worth. And kill every last muslim. But i at least give respect to Mbs fir taking out the trash.

 

[ArmyJerry]

you mean you could "NOT" give a fuck his chopped up ass, neither could I

 

[Redmanss]

Saudi citizen, Saudi problem, didn't happen at the consulate in DC so it's not our business, I could give a fuck less. It wouldn't have made a blip on the media radar if the guy didn't work for Bezos.

Them "interrogating" a citizen and killing him in the course is just Saudis being Saudis. Nobody who knows those people should be the least bit surprised. The tech industry SJWs backing out of the conference with SA is laughable. Where the fuck have they been the last fifty plus years? That's right, they've been selling them tech at every chance they had...

Tech's credibility is diving as low as the MSM and lawyers.

 

[boomer81]

Fucking media. I Wish they cared about seth rich as much as they did this fat fuck. Or stephen paddock. Thats been almost a year no motive.

 

[QuickNDirty]

Fucking media. I Wish they cared about seth rich as much as they did this fat fuck. Or stephen paddock. Thats been almost a year no motive.

At least there was an update on that recently...




Not sure what's going on with this dude getting chopped up, but I care a lot less about him than I do about this chick:

https://www.bestgore.com/beheading/woman-stab-stomach-beheaded-machete-comando-vermelho-brazil/

 

[PolarisBreach]

This guy's family supposedly had connections to the Saudi royal family. I'm guessing he was someone's intel asset, but the question is who. There's too big a stink to just be another scumbag journalist...

 

[Alphatreedog]

My two cents . Bogus outcry from Republicans and Dems . Bogus outcry from world leaders . Goad Trump into talking shit then sanctions . Oil per barrel goes thru the effing roof . US oil producing companies make a killing . Petro based economy takes a big hit . Average Joe gets economically kicked in the nuts . And the payy off . It's Alll Trump's Fault . Who'd like to make a wager . Don't forget that big oil nearly tanked world economy dumping all they oil they could on the market just to cripple small producers in the US . Idea was bankrupt little guys and buy claims and property for pennies on the dollar . Well here we go again .

 

[FS1]

He was WAPO and that is CeyeA

 

[ArmyJerry]

bingo

My two cents . Bogus outcry from Republicans and Dems . Bogus outcry from world leaders . Goad Trump into talking shit then sanctions . Oil per barrel goes thru the effing roof . US oil producing companies make a killing . Petro based economy takes a big hit . Average Joe gets economically kicked in the nuts . And the payy off . It's Alll Trump's Fault . Who'd like to make a wager . Don't forget that big oil nearly tanked world economy dumping all they oil they could on the market just to cripple small producers in the US . Idea was bankrupt little guys and buy claims and property for pennies on the dollar . Well here we go again .

 

[srtsam]

I agree this whole thing thing is being thrust into the media as if its a major thing in an effort to try to make the President slip up right before the midterms.

 

[pmclaine]

I could give a fuck how another country treats its citizens in so much as its not our job to police the world.

The only American sentiment created by this should be "Thank God we dont live in such a shithole" and a rededication to ensuring our Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land.

What happened to this guy, though brutal by accounts, should not be surprising coming from that part of the world.

I think its time we have a realistic look at our "allies" around the world and realize "enemy of my enemy" isnt always that good a deal.

This "reality" of how an autocratic monarchy works is not a secret.

The Dems are fine with the Saudi blood lust, misogyny and gay hatred as long as it fills there election funds.

They are using this as a wedge issue now to create an issue where we should give two fucks.

Saudi should be told to eat a dick and their role in 9/11 exposed. Lets also investigate any possible ties in Las Vegas because like all tin foil hat conspiracies there are some troubling coincidences.

 

[Wheedle]

Them "interrogating" a citizen and killing him in the course is just Saudis being Saudis. Nobody who knows those people should be the least bit surprised. The tech industry SJWs backing out of the conference with SA is laughable. Where the fuck have they been the last fifty plus years? That's right, they've been selling them tech at every chance they had...

And playing footsies with China...

 

[pmclaine]

And playing footsies with China...

Exactly Google acting as the filter to out Chinese dissidents and getting them sent off for re-education.

Where is the outrage?

 

[Crewdog135]

As I understand it, jackass was tight with the Muslim Brotherhood. And the new crown prince isn’t a fan, at least publicly. He’s making moves against the Wahibis and their supporters. If true, good on him, and good riddance to bad trash! I do hope Trump doesn’t take the bait.

 

[boomer81]

What would be so bad if trump just said. Not my fuckin problem im doing whats best for thousands of Americans not one man. End if it. Its that type of rhetoric that has endeared him to his base. Were not in this for the rest of the world

 

[W54/XM-388]

I'm quite interested in making it as public as possible.
I want to shove this in the faces of all those stupid European governments and all the other SJW Democrats & Communist type that love Islam so much & are all about how they hate Israel and love the Arabs.

The MSM has been doing all this propaganda for that new Saudi dictator, lauding him as so "progressive" and wonderful... well let them have fun defending him now when they have to finally admit that he personally ordered the brutal torture, mutilation, murder & dismemberment of someone for daring to say what he was really like.

 

[_Windrider_]

At least there was an update on that recently...




Not sure what's going on with this dude getting chopped up, but I care a lot less about him than I do about this chick:

https://www.bestgore.com/beheading/woman-stab-stomach-beheaded-machete-comando-vermelho-brazil/

ive said from day 1 he was dead before the first shot. he was a patsy.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Wasn't there some story about some Saudi types and their "bodyguards" happening to be around that hotel in Las Vegas about the same time the stuff went down?

 

[_Windrider_]

the geopolitical issues with this story are massive. we cant tell saudi to fuck off. China and Russia will swoop and our strategic abilities in the Middle East will be gone. not to mention, russia and china will get an up close personal look at a lot of our military hardware. nothing good will come of this. Israel is probably already loading bombs.

 

[FS1]

Who benefits from Khashoggi's Death

The Saudis get rid of a thorn in their butt. Though at the same time Stick themselves with 10 bigger thorns. Possible but it seems like failed logic.

The prince has changed the Kingdom radically even though it is only baby steps. Women can drive. That was a biggie. In doing so He has made many internal enemies, who would love to oust him from power. They would benefit from Khashoggi's death.

The Russians, Chinese and Iran all would love to see US/Saudi relations sour. All would be more than willing to assist any internal subterfuge to embarrass the Prince. Even Turkey is not to be trusted.

Too much fog not enough fact as of yet. I will wait for the evidence and facts to be clear. There are a million reasons why the Saudi's and many others may want to kill this guy. So give me some facts not some conspiracy fog.

BTW I could give a shit less if the Saudi's did whack him. Our relationship with the Saudi's is more important and better for us. Much more so than a WAPO fakenews man.

 

[pmclaine]

Im not all in on Kashoggi being pure as the driven snow either.

I havent read his shit in Bezos paper but the fact he writes for Bezos paper is a clue.

I dont know what MBS is all about but beyond letting women drive to go get sammiches faster for the men what has he done.

Use his money to rebuild a Coptic Christian church in Cairo maybe we are getting somewhere.

 

[_Windrider_]

I dont know what MBS is all about but beyond letting women drive to go get sammiches faster for the men what has he done.

im dying

 

[FS1]

I think Bin Salman is shaking the tree pretty hard. Is it real or is it Memorex? Time will tell. It was not long after Trumps visit that he got the job. Why are the establishment in DC in a tizzy? There is more than meets the eye going on here.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/joe...re-are-21-impressive-reforms-already-underway

 

[pmclaine]

He certainly told the "establishment" of Riyadh there was a new sheriff (Sharif being a muslim word it seems appropriate) when he asserted power.

Was it for show, having his ring kissed, or is he changing over from the old guard that remembered tales of Lawrence and how the British and French fucked them?

Saudi has to think about the future sans oil.

Id suggest a mix of Dubbai and making Mecca a sort of Disneyland where people in shorts and tank tops come and say shit like "Thats it? A black box! Lets go back to the bar and get a snortful".

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

If you think there is a Deep State here in USA undermining Trump...well that is nothing to the Deep State in Saudi that are willing to die (And Kill) in order to keep MBS from assuming full power of the throne!!

In regards to Saudi advancing past oil and being more Disneyland .....well pretty much his first week of becoming Crown Prince he signed a Royal Decree that basically stated if xyz product is manufactured in Saudi then the Saudi Government could NOT import that product from any competitor. So he essentially opened Saudi into the Defense Industry Disneyland. Everyone is rushing to setup companies there to get the guaranteed Government contracts. That is why if you pay attention to the Weapons and Defense equipment "contracts" that we see on the news now......about 90% of those are for MLA and Technical Service and not actual physical products.

He is attempting to take what the UAE did with the Emirates Defense Industry Companies and require Government to purchase from within the country but then requiring those companies to provide so much offset dollars to essentially bring in another company for another product. ALL while paying no import, export, personal gain, inventory taxes, etc etc.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[Fig]

Late to the party, but no fucks given. I’ll take the good fella Crown Prince over the Wahabi fucks and Muslim Brotherhood fucks all day long. As far as I’m concerned just leave the chipper running for fucks like Kahshoggi.

 

[Va_Gentleman]

I happened to have on Sean Hannity on the car radio today, and he put it a very distinct way. He said, why didn't the media cover the "What
Happened?" angles and projections with Benghazi? We had an Ambassador, State Employee and 2 SO's killed and the MSM didn't even bother to ask what happened....

I thought that was an interesting take.

 

[P-Squared]

I'm a sarcastic/cynical SOB. I think back to Reservoir Dogs. Remember the straight razor scene and 'can you hear me'? These mofo's took it one step further. Put on headphones and listen to music. Does anyone wonder to what they were listening to? Floyd... Hendrix... Mel (Tillis or Torme - equally sick)

 

[Fig]

I prefer K-Billy’s Super Sounds of The ‘70s...

 

[ArmyJerry]

We need to nuke them now , all of them, stop assisting them, we dont need them or their money or oil.

Hi,

If you think there is a Deep State here in USA undermining Trump...well that is nothing to the Deep State in Saudi that are willing to die (And Kill) in order to keep MBS from assuming full power of the throne!!

In regards to Saudi advancing past oil and being more Disneyland .....well pretty much his first week of becoming Crown Prince he signed a Royal Decree that basically stated if xyz product is manufactured in Saudi then the Saudi Government could NOT import that product from any competitor. So he essentially opened Saudi into the Defense Industry Disneyland. Everyone is rushing to setup companies there to get the guaranteed Government contracts. That is why if you pay attention to the Weapons and Defense equipment "contracts" that we see on the news now......about 90% of those are for MLA and Technical Service and not actual physical products.

He is attempting to take what the UAE did with the Emirates Defense Industry Companies and require Government to purchase from within the country but then requiring those companies to provide so much offset dollars to essentially bring in another company for another product. ALL while paying no import, export, personal gain, inventory taxes, etc etc.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[Nik H]

My two cents . Bogus outcry from Republicans and Dems . Bogus outcry from world leaders . Goad Trump into talking shit then sanctions . Oil per barrel goes thru the effing roof . US oil producing companies make a killing . Petro based economy takes a big hit . Average Joe gets economically kicked in the nuts . And the payy off . It's Alll Trump's Fault . Who'd like to make a wager . Don't forget that big oil nearly tanked world economy dumping all they oil they could on the market just to cripple small producers in the US . Idea was bankrupt little guys and buy claims and property for pennies on the dollar . Well here we go again .

I hope all of you have bought some futures

 

[Nik H]

I prefer K-Billy’s Super Sounds of The ‘70s...

My favorite scene in one of my favorite movies

 

[Nik H]

We need to nuke them now , all of them, stop assisting them, we dont need them or their money or oil.

There is money to be made here. Good money. Why should the politicos be the only ones. Let it play out. Take your profits. Nuke them after.

 

[Wheedle]

How long does nuclear glass have to sit before we can drill through it for oil?

 

[ArmyJerry]

we dont need their oil

 

[pmclaine]

Almost seems to me the US plan regards oil is to use everyone elses first and keep ours in strategic reserve.

Once everyone else is out of crude they can figure out how to add sails to the Abrams we sold them.

We pay a bit more now but it will make our oil that much more valuable later.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He was a Saudi Citizen. Who thought he could trash the Saudi Royal Family in the WashPost and accuse them of being behind 9/11... with impunity.

Guess what? You screw with a nation-state that has strict rules about the Royal family... and you end up as fish food???? Surprise.

Screw Washpost... screw the people screaming and using this to try and trap/trash Trump. Screw Kashoggi.

Guy crossed the line, thought he was invincible... he wasn't. Saudi is a sovereign nation with its own rules. That aren't our rules.

I'm not for the Saudi form of government. The House of Saud is very... unique. And certainly not a Constitutional Republic. But it's THEIR %$#@ing Government. I don't get a say!

And as long as the oil keeps flowing... let them chop up WashPost reporters. Maybe we'll get lucky and they will chop up CNN reporters and Rachel Maddow.

And AJ... we do need their oil. We're independent, mostly. But oil is a global commodity. And what happens when there is a shortage in Japan is that our prices go up. Saudi production affects how much it costs to fill our trucks and recharge our Zippo's!

But as for Kasshggi... or however you spell that %$#+... No You-know-what's given...

I'm with the OP on this one. Let Saudi be Saudi.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Almost seems to me the US plan regards oil is to use everyone elses first and keep ours in strategic reserve.

Once everyone else is out of crude they can figure out how to add sails to the Abrams we sold them.

We pay a bit more now but it will make our oil that much more valuable later.

^^^ This is precisely right. Drain the rest of the world first. Keep ours in the ground.

Cheers,

Sirhr

 

[Fig]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He was a Saudi Citizen. Who thought he could trash the Saudi Royal Family in the WashPost and accuse them of being behind 9/11... with impunity.

Guess what? You screw with a nation-state that has strict rules about the Royal family... and you end up as fish food???? Surprise.

Screw Washpost... screw the people screaming and using this to try and trap/trash Trump. Screw Kashoggi.

Guy crossed the line, thought he was invincible... he wasn't. Saudi is a sovereign nation with its own rules. That aren't our rules.

I'm not for the Saudi form of government. The House of Saud is very... unique. And certainly not a Constitutional Republic. But it's THEIR %$#@ing Government. I don't get a say!

And as long as the oil keeps flowing... let them chop up WashPost reporters. Maybe we'll get lucky and they will chop up CNN reporters and Rachel Maddow.

And AJ... we do need their oil. We're independent, mostly. But oil is a global commodity. And what happens when there is a shortage in Japan is that our prices go up. Saudi production affects how much it costs to fill our trucks and recharge our Zippo's!

But as for Kasshggi... or however you spell that %$#+... No You-know-what's given...

I'm with the OP on this one. Let Saudi be Saudi.

Cheers,

Sirhr

We're of one mind on this. I'll only add that as backwards and oppressive as the monarchy is, what would replace it is a thousand times worse. Would you prefer a brutal dictator who pays lip service to Islam, or a real Wahhabi mullah with all that money?

There's nothing to think about. We're with the monarchy because they are the lesser evil by country mile, and if a couple of Muslim Brotherhood agents who string for WAPO have to go into the chipper head first...oh well...

 

[RTH1800]

It’s pitiful how every bad thing that happens worldwide is Trump’s fault.
Rich liberals fly around in their private jets and complain that Trump caused global warming.
A woman she was felt up 30 years ago and it’s Trumps fault. (Likely has not been felt up since.)
Foreigner killed by his government its Trump’s fault.
Then Trump is not smart enough to simply ignore it.
What a mess.

 

[Fig]

It’s pitiful how every bad thing that happens worldwide is Trump’s fault.
Rich liberals fly around in their private jets and complain that Trump caused global warming.
A woman she was felt up 30 years ago and it’s Trumps fault. (Likely has not been felt up since.)
Foreigner killed by his government its Trump’s fault.
Then Trump is not smart enough to simply ignore it.
What a mess.

Complaining about his automatic counterattack at this point, three years in, has gotten tedious and pointless.
He is a media creature. He responds to everything like an open nerve on a cracked tooth. If you slap him he snaps a jab at your nose instantly and reflexively.
It's not how I do it, and it may be crass and unstatesmanlike (it is), but that's who he is. If that's more important to you than everything he DOES and has done then don't vote for him and vote for fucking Fauxahantis.

I was horrified by him initially, but I figured I'd rather vote for a crass charlatan than for a bon fide mafia don who was seeking power to expand her global, criminal enterprise. Really, nothing to think about. I was wrong. For all his faults he's governed as I would hope to govern, and he's acted like the first President who is actually dedicated to upholding our Constitution and defending our liberty since probably Taft.

At this point I've just accepted him, and that what he does works. It doesn't work on me, but then I'm completely transactional. I could give a fuck who it is, what color they are, how smart they are, or if I like them or not. A person can be a stupid, ignorant, ugly, crass, bastard and if they uphold their oath, defend the Constitution, and vote against every socialist/communist/totalitarian power grab I will vote for them in perpetuity. I can find them utterly detestable in every respect but the execution of their duty and they have my vote. I want a technician, not a celebrity, personality, or preacher. I'll even take the latter if I get the former.

 

[Nik H]

This is an excellent article about this guy...he was definitely playing both sides but in the end....got fucked

Khashoggi

 

[Fig]

There can be no political reform and democracy in any Arab country without accepting that political Islam is a part of it. A significant number of citizens in any given Arab country will give their vote to Islamic political parties if some form of democracy is allowed. It seems clear then that the only way to prevent political Islam from playing a role in Arab politics is to abolish democracy, which essentially deprives citizens of their basic right to choose their political representatives.

On that point I agree with Khashoggi. Islam is wholly incompatible with liberty and liberalism. I do think that you can make it work with Kashoggi's brand of Arab, totalitarian Marxism. This is why he was so accepted by deep state/media. He was a fellow traveler albeit with an Arab flair.

Given a modicum of democracy they will choose theocracy as that is their religious belief and that is their culture. We have always (GHW Bush not withstanding) chosen the dictator/strongman over democracy because going back to The Great Game the West has understood Islam to be the enemy of our civilization and of individual liberty. Indeed they've never missed an opportunity to attack any other culture that touches their borders, including their own factions.

 

[Nik H]

I don't know where I heard it but I did read something that said Khashoggi was chopped up into pieces and disposed of in the embassy by some executioner of the crown prince. They had a picture of this guy standing at the back of a crowd at some event.

Didn't look like a nice guy at all....LOL

 

[W54/XM-388]

How long does nuclear glass have to sit before we can drill through it for oil?

Depends, but my guess is by the time you can sail some ships over there with all the equipment you need, it's good to start drilling.
It's not like we want it for anything else, just need to drill holes, stick pumps over them and run some pipes to the coast.

 

[FS1]

If the Saudis wanted to whack this guy they could have done it in a way that did not implicate them. Too much fog too many questions.

 

[RTH1800]

Very likely they wanted to send a message. This will blow over, but Saudi subjects will remain docile.
It does not take a 15 man team to knock off one journalist. Even fewer a WP journalist.

 

[Nik H]

It takes one guy and what better place to it than inside a super secret facility like an embassy facility.

Can't prove they did or didn't...can't prove shit. They probably burned the body in a classified material burn bag....LOL

 

[Greg Langelius *]

The MSM is dripping in their panties over the prospect of further screwing up US relationships in the ME. This whole issue is sucker bait. Screw WaPo, screw their pet Saudi columnist, screw anyone who says we should dump on our best Anti-Iran ally.

At least half our problems in the ME are because the US never seems to realize that the less we do there, the better. The other half is because we can never seem to stay on the horse in mid-stream. I'm not at all surprised that nobody trusts us over there, and most hate us; we're unreliable. Every time we change our policy, more Islamics die; not the best way to make friends and infuence people. Our resident armchair diplomacy dilettantes, always legends in their own minds, can't seem to recognize these simple relationships, they all know oh so much better.

Things are screwed up enough in the ME without us completely ravaging our alliances with moderates in the ME. Sure the Saudis aren't the Tea Party, but they aren't the Republican Guard, either; be happy for that difference. If you don't like them, fine, nobody else does either; but they are lots better than an Iran-Russia hegemony. Russia dearly loves to see this boat getting rocked. Remember Nasser, folks?

Trump is smart enough to see the whole cuppa poo is simply the MSM poking him in the eye with a blunt stick, and some of us here are trying to help them.

Wise up, mental giants.

Greg