something more people are thinking about? Lately, I have been watching military TV-WW2, etc. I was thinking, the atmosphere here in USA is becoming more and more like that of Germany, Hitler's rise, because of similar things going on here. Just coincidence maybe, but was listening to a radio show, two gents discussing the same subject and almost predicting the same outcome for USA. At end of show, found out it was a SouthWest Radio Ministries program. Their web site is interesting. No, I don't wish to live anywhere else, but the current corruption and disregard for out Constitution, with impunity, leads me to think our democracy is in serious trouble.
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I'm far from an activist, but is this becoming
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Follow the money.
Its all about control of the money, which represents power.
Remember, "Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Lord Acton
The ones who control the money don't give a goddamn about your needs, rights, or freedom. They only care about maintaining power for themselves.
Follow the money.
Its all about control of the money, which represents power.
Remember, "Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Lord Acton
The ones who control the money don't give a goddamn about your needs, rights, or freedom. They only care about maintaining power for themselves.
Follow the money.
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See, there's your first mistake. Propaganda has you in its clutches already. Our form of government is a representative republic.
When we lose democracy, we will also lose our current form of Govt, all I'm saying. Guess the propogandist would tell me we are free, but that would be a lie too. You are quibbling over the two terms, when that was not my point.
Read the book "BLOODLANDS- Europe between Hitler and Stalin". It will frighten you at the parallels between then and what is transpiring now.
not saying they would never try to do this..but the US has way too many firearms & ammo in circulation. And a totally different culture.
the east coast and west coast would likely fall in line as most of those states are about a half a step from mandatory gun collection already.
every freedom loving citizen that lives in one of those states really needs to move to a conservative state.
stop footing the bill for their crazy policies
if everyone leaves, then just the slugs and crazy liberals will be left.
the states will go broke
the east coast and west coast would likely fall in line as most of those states are about a half a step from mandatory gun collection already.
every freedom loving citizen that lives in one of those states really needs to move to a conservative state.
stop footing the bill for their crazy policies
if everyone leaves, then just the slugs and crazy liberals will be left.
the states will go broke
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I'm going to assume that auto-spell is rearing its ugly head.
We been here before under Lincoln, FDR, and I might say in much more heavy handed fashion, all the way through JFK/LBJ less heavy handed. Read the history of our country, when things go too far there is a correction one way or another. Just don't ever give up your ultimate insurance policy, guns and the Constitution. One thing that has changed is the speed of communication and avenues to communicate, be careful and double check everything you hear or read from any source, trust no one. Don't give up the ship just yet and remember there is no place to run to so these grand issues being discussed will be settled one way or another on our soil under the US Constitution.
I have full faith in my countrymen, the American people are good people in general.
I have full faith in my countrymen, the American people are good people in general.
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If you go down to basics that is contradiction in terms...
representative -> someone stands for someone else
democracy -> rule of people aka everyone
Modern meaning of democracy is that every person (though in practice this gets twisted a bit depending on your sanity, legal status and how system of voting operates) has one vote in matters of state (in reality only those matters which people who use the system to their benefit present to others to vote on). Assuming that this will will work is exactly the same as assuming that socialism or in its extreme communism with central planning will work and as time will show the end result is (will be from current time perspective) actually the same.
Back to the first word, representative now this is the key society lives or dies on this word, get the definition of representative right and you live get it wrong and you die a slow agonizing death which lasts for several generations. Due to limits on what can be discussed here suffice it to say that no nation, no peoples on this planet got the definition right OR at the same time were able to put in place a system which would prevent time to do its thing. Your try was good but unfortunately it didn't last very long...
I don't have nearly as much faith as you do Jerry, but that doesn't change the reality of your first statement.
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You're a great listener. You should contact them and let them know that their message is reaching the intended audience.
I think there are places that practice something close to direct democracy that are most definitely NOT ruled by mobs.
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Problem is they are using "Democracy" as the means to destroy our Constitutional Republic.
If that sentence does not make sense educate yourself.
The reason our country works is because we are a Constitutional Republic.
The Founding Fathers were the smartest, most mistrusting of power, political realists that ever existed and they were totally dedicated to the freedom of the individual over the collective.
They built us a government based on law. As long as the law is followed and government is held within its restraints by law and the system of checks and balances than the Republic will be strong. Our Constitutional Republic was designed to protect the minority as much as the majority. Law now means a rule that is ripe for change by executive order and two branches of the government have ceded their powers to the executive.
Thomas Jefferson required questions concerning the intent of the Constitution to be determined based on the assumption you put yourself in the time and place of one of the writers having just fought a war against a tyrranical government. The present model of trying to reframe the Constitution in the context of the present is playing into the hands of the people that intend to erode its protections and a big, fat, lazy, complacent society is following right along.
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...and I bet those societies are extremely homogeneous, they have strong social connections that bind them (think religion or strong family unit), and they stress individual responsibility, while at the same time having a safety net for those that have put into the system or are unable to contribute for a real reason.
Edit - Don't take this to mean I am in anyway saying this country does not need "new" immigrants. Immigration refreshes the blood. The problem comes when we no longer have a "melting pot" as I was educated to revere but we decide to create a plate that has segregated the ingredients into their compartmented sections of the pot.
We do not need homogeneity of people type and their individual beliefs/lifestyles but without a homogeneous love and respect for the Constitution the idea behind the US will fail.
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The threat to this country is the mass willingness of the population to become cretins. That includes those who buy into the Nazi crap. The circumstances of Weimar Germany are in no way similar. Perhaps there are isolated threads that track but the whole allusion of today being an echo of that event is the paranoid mans version of Kardashian gossip.
Take the time to read a little about history before crying wolf about its repetition.
Are there things to be genuinely worried about - of course. Is this one of them? No.
Sleight of hand and misdirection is a principle easily applied beyond the magicians act.
Take the time to read a little about history before crying wolf about its repetition.
Are there things to be genuinely worried about - of course. Is this one of them? No.
Sleight of hand and misdirection is a principle easily applied beyond the magicians act.
Great post very well said sir.
Democracies ARE tyranny. Tyranny of the fickle majority over the minority. This is why we are a Constitutional Republic, where principles are more important than the majority.
If you want to live in a country where liberty and justice are respected, then you need a government based on principles and the rule of law instead of majority will. Thats why even if the intentions were good American patriots should still be outraged when government abuses the rule of law when it exercises power where the Constitution does not grant it, or violates our rights, regardless of the excuse.
Ironically a pampered existence has resulted in modern Americans fearing the wrong things. We ignore history's lessons on where the true danger lies. Many are willingly overlooking abuses of the rule of law (the Constitution) in the name of fighting terrorism or drugs or crime or whatever threat is out there because these are "bad times." The Constitution was written precisely for these bad times, when governments have excuse to take our money and liberties! The explicit restraints on government were written for exactly the times we are in, when the majority will attempt to give up the freedoms of all because they cannot master their fear. Look around you and ask yourself if you can depend on the majority around you for anything important. It was little different in the founder's times. That why they created a government based on the rule of law. The rule of law, not men, is supposed to protect us from that tyranny of fear, tyranny of selfishness, and ensure generations to come have the opportunity to live in as much freedom as a human being can achieve on this planet. That will only work if we remember we are to be citizens and not serfs, and hold our government accountable to the rule of law. Men of principle should re-establish the rule of law first through our political processes but if necessary by any means necessary
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I agree that we started as a Representative Republic, but in the last 100 years it has morphed into a Democracy----The Government Members are the Citizens, and we poor schmucks are the slaves. We actually don't have as much say at the ballots as we think we do. Face it, if you have to have access to millions, even hundreds of millions of dollars to defeat the incumbent, you don't have a real choice...
it is strange indeed to read news like this one:
The ONG 52nd Civil Support Team training scenario involved a plot from local school district employees to use biological weapons in order to advance their beliefs about “protecting Gun Rights and Second Amendment rights.”
Ohio National Guard Training Envisions Right-Wing Terrorism
The ONG 52nd Civil Support Team training scenario involved a plot from local school district employees to use biological weapons in order to advance their beliefs about “protecting Gun Rights and Second Amendment rights.”
Ohio National Guard Training Envisions Right-Wing Terrorism
Overall, I agree. The US is slowly going down the drain. And I hate it for those people who live in places like NY, where socialism is only a few steps away. However I feel confident that if the gov`t truly does get out of line, that I live in a state which will largely support seceding from the Union ala 1861. Even though back then we seceded for something which I would NOT be willing to die, ultimately they stood up to a Federal gov`t which was trying to take power out of the state`s hands and put it into the hands of the federal gov`t. Again, the reason we seceded was totally wrong, but the fact that we did secede gives me hope that, as I said, if the gov`t gets out of hand we will do the same thing again.
If the Ga state gov`t falls in line with the federal, then I plan on heading straight to Texas as I feel that will probably be the last hold out. If all of the former Confederate states fall in line, well, I guess there would be only one option left and I hope not to see that option used in my life time.
I see a lot of people that are all too eager to see a revolution happen. Please do not hasten the day, as it will get uglier than anyone could ever imagine, apart from those who have seen war firsthand. We dont know what all branches of the military would be on the peoples` side or the government`s, hopefully our soldiers would see whats right and wrong, but the events after Hurricane Katrina dont compel me to be very hopeful.
Also, who`s to say that the revolutionary movement will be in everyones` best interest? Take a look at the Occupy movement, would you want to say that people like them are on your side? Talk about democracy, look how long it took for the events under that movement to descend into mob rule/group think. Once I saw how much the lib media was taking up for them and supporting everything they did, that told me all I need to know.
If the Ga state gov`t falls in line with the federal, then I plan on heading straight to Texas as I feel that will probably be the last hold out. If all of the former Confederate states fall in line, well, I guess there would be only one option left and I hope not to see that option used in my life time.
I see a lot of people that are all too eager to see a revolution happen. Please do not hasten the day, as it will get uglier than anyone could ever imagine, apart from those who have seen war firsthand. We dont know what all branches of the military would be on the peoples` side or the government`s, hopefully our soldiers would see whats right and wrong, but the events after Hurricane Katrina dont compel me to be very hopeful.
Also, who`s to say that the revolutionary movement will be in everyones` best interest? Take a look at the Occupy movement, would you want to say that people like them are on your side? Talk about democracy, look how long it took for the events under that movement to descend into mob rule/group think. Once I saw how much the lib media was taking up for them and supporting everything they did, that told me all I need to know.
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