Ok. So you would want your wife to keep the baby! Your better man than me! Congrats!
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I wouldn't realistically be the husband's choice, it would be the woman's choice, at least in most modern societies.
Here's a better question: What if your wife had very strong religious convictions on the matter and decided that killing an innocent because of her anger at somebody else for what that somebody else had done to her was not the right path. Choosing instead that the correct path was to either put the child up for adoption when they were born, or raise the child just like the rest of her children. Could you live happily with her decision?
Like many other things, that's where you get to decide how committed you are to your beliefs when they actually hit home.
Ice Cube is actually a pretty good guy, you happy little racist.
Fuck u faggot! Go suck Biden’s dick! Or better yet walk in front of a maga bus!
LOL...racist and homophobic; you wanna go for the trifecta and add xenophobic? Damn, I hope you haven't reproduced.
i have. 3 successful kids! They are also conservative and not commies like you faggot! How big a boy are ya? Your big behind a computer screen but a slap jaw faggot in real life!
Tough day in the trailer park? You're trolled so damned easily.
Oh, and it's slack jaw. Just sayin'
You seriously haven't seen the "Look at me, I had an abortion!" talk in media?
Yes, Democrats celebrate abortion - Washington Examiner
Nearly five years ago, the hashtag #ShoutYourAbortion became a global phenomenon, inspiring tens of thousands of women to share their abortion stories with pride. Gone are the days of “safe, legal, and rare.” Now, among the pro-abortion crowd, abortion must be safe, legal, and celebrated. This...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
here, if women were not able to easily dispose of the child, they would go after the father for child support in a large % of cases.
i would think fewer guys would continue to fuck any slut of whore without a condom if they have to pay for it.
Just curious, per the topic at hand, we’re you by chance the end product of a unplanned pregnancy?
That would definitely help, I know a few couples that jumped through hoops and one couple didn't even end up with a toddler like they wanted. I kind of understand why they do this since people think they want a dog or a cat and end up dumping it on the side of the road. I know that's not a great example but I think most will get the point.
I don't see how you are going to adopt out 800k kids every year in the US alone. I often see people against abortion suggest adoption, but I don't see very many of them trying to adopt. I have no desire to adopt so I won't argue that adoption is the answer.
Exactly this.
Adoption is a nightmare for anyone trying in this country.
Huge expenses, you can get royally screwed over and be out huge sums of money.
They will discriminate against you hard if you are not the woke SJW type the vile social workers seem to adore.
Deadbeat fathers or mothers show up years later in between their drug binges wanting the courts to rip your kid away from you so they can take the kid back to their dope shack to get government money to use on drugs and all kinds of B.S.
Kick all the SJW types out of the agencies, staff it with decent patriots, kick out all the liberal judges in the family courts, make it cheap and easy to adopt if you are a good person and make adoption final, no questions ever, no going back no courts can interfere again. Any "genetic donors" wanting anything will have to wait until the child is 18 and then if the kid wants, they can get any information that is on file.
Oh silly man, I was mocking you.
It's okay, slowie.
I will use teeny tiny words for you next time.
All for it.
Kids need a stable loving environment.
No reason why a gay couple cannot provide that.
If openly gay individuals need adoption too, all for that as well.
If consequences return, such as not being able to kill a baby, most folks would be much more careful on the front end.
You guys do understand that abortion is already used as a form of population control, right? @theLBC and I went over this in another thread. Abortion clinics have been conveniently placed in areas where income and education are low. And since it is effectively sanctioned through the government through grants and such, you have government sign-off on what's going on. All of it. Adoption has never been part of the objective, terminating lives before they can become a burden on society and eugenics has been the goal.
Somebody back in the day did the calculus and found an answer they didn't like. So here we are. And its happening under your nose. Every day.
Somebody back in the day did the calculus and found an answer they didn't like. So here we are. And its happening under your nose. Every day.
Just read up on the writings of the left wing hero saint who founded planned parenthood.
Most don't understand that while the National Socialists are the ones vilified for their eugenics programs (among many other evil things they did), the WASP liberals in England and New England were the ones who were pushing it on the whole world. They only had to stop because it got a bad name.
God condemns homosexuality. He meant for marriage to be made up between one man and one woman. With that said, a child should be reared by heterosexual parents.
Disagree with me if you like but you asked the question and that's my answer.
A non viable, or unwanted foetus, is not a child.
Scans of my daughter raised a few anomalies, which required amniocentesis.
My daughter's mother and I agonised over what to do if the results showed Downs Syndrome or other more serious
afflictions.
We both agreed that the world is hard enough for healthy people, let alone ones born with defects.
So abortion was going to be the option.
Thankfully, the results came back negative, and I have a beautiful daughter.
I don't regret considering abortion as an option.
Scans of my daughter raised a few anomalies, which required amniocentesis.
My daughter's mother and I agonised over what to do if the results showed Downs Syndrome or other more serious
afflictions.
We both agreed that the world is hard enough for healthy people, let alone ones born with defects.
So abortion was going to be the option.
Thankfully, the results came back negative, and I have a beautiful daughter.
I don't regret considering abortion as an option.
The history is a bit more complicated. It certainly started out that way, then became a luxury item for white women, but with the advent of the morning after pill it returned to its roots as the two large clienteles for abortions diverge significantly when it comes to that medicine. Not sure why that is.
Working on the premise a deity exists.
Your argument is based on an unproven assumption.
With all due respect, I have a lot harder time with people who abort imperfect fetuses than those who simply do not feel ready for a child in their life and make the decision to abort.
Margaret Sanger was the founder of Planned Parenthood; the largest abortion provider in the US.
That's fine. I think everybody is entitled to their own answer, but there certainly is a tension between wanting more adoption and not wanting a community that cannot biologically have children to be forbidden from adopting. FWIW, I am pretty sure they don't raise their kids to be gay.
Sounds familiar to me. Seems like there was a huge war with a guy that attempted to do something similar to that...
One's definition of valuable life is how right to life is defined? This forum is flooded with complaints about our country yet ideas like killing babies in order to prevent orphans seems like a reasonable direction?
How many states have tried restricting it.
Even if completely banned, it will still continue illegally, but putting a coathanger up your cooch would dissuade most women.
So you say. This is your opinion and I will respect it. Mine is different.
“They were not your children. They were my children.” I cannot think of anything more loving and caring than this. And it happened in the Old Testament.
ETA: my phone is treacherous, the multi quotes is it not me.
So, in an effort to remain viable the NRA partners with adoption agencies? The NRA helps patriots adopt a minimum of three and abortions decline. They're home schooled to control the curriculum and CRT exposure. More conservatives and future firearm owners are the result. Securing the right to arms, reducing abortion and increasing the conservative base! No shots fired! Slight compromise by the adopter would be fewer custom actions and maybe in the safe, dare I say, a Savage.
men can have babies now so that isn't an issue anymore, and shame on you for suggesting otherwise.
Ok who here feels like they are weeds or a menace?Margaret Sanger was the founder of Planned Parenthood; the largest abortion provider in the US.
If you read your OT (which feel very few here do from an educated standpoint), which son do you think she is giving preference to? Which of you have the Curse of Ham?
You may think all of this is bullshit, but the last time I was in Africa this was in the newspaper as to why they were a shithole, from one of the President’s wife no less.
Abortion is so entangled in the pragmatic arguments of our society that I honestly no longer know what is right or bullshit. But what I do know is that we say that we can’t stop abortion and put those kids up for adoption but we also can’t stop the surge across the border. Things don’t match up.
The resulting personality, behavior traits, tempers, friendliness, social behavior, and everything of humans is caused by two things: DNA and rearing. Rearing is accomplished through both indirect and direct actions.Or call or passive or not. Whatever, as I understand it from my training, this had been proven. But I can't speak to the factual integrity of that comment, but I do buy into it.
Kids see what their rearers do. Even if unintentional, gays cause influence on others, and in the case of children, WHO ARE THE MOST INFLUENCABLE, gay adopters absolutely raise their adoptees to be gay. Whether intentional or not it doesn't matter. It happens through the indirect influence of their actions, even if their intentions are to raise the child to make his/her own decisions, which I actually do believe is the case with some gay couples. I'm not saying that'll cause the child to end up gay, but it does have an enormous influence.
Wow, this opens up a different topic, but I'm trying to stock to the OP.
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Do you have to believe in God to believe that murder is wrong? That's where the divide in the abortion debate is. Who can rationally state that murder is OKAY. Isn't this thread about abortion? Yea a troll started it, and he/she should get hammered And possibly booted (but that's up to someone else), and he/she is trying to create divide within the Hide. Most voters who oppose abortion support the 2A. We need to influence those moderates who are in the gray area. Forget about the topic and get on board with modifying your comments in a way that attracts the moderates. That's how we will win elections.
An unproven assumption...the very thing that separates believers from nonbelievers: FAITH IN GOD. I suppose the beliefs of the faithful can't be proven. That's why it takes Faith to get into Heaven. I know that my faith in my Savior lands me in Heaven when the time comes. I'd like to be in the higher tiers, but I know I have a long ways to go.
Do you have to believe in God to believe that murder is wrong? That's where the divide in the abortion debate is. Who can rationally state that murder is OKAY. Isn't this thread about abortion? Yea a troll started it, and he/she should get hammered And possibly booted (but that's up to someone else), and he/she is trying to create divide within the Hide. Most voters who oppose abortion support the 2A. We need to influence those moderates who are in the gray area. Forget about the topic and get on board with modifying your comments in a way that attracts the moderates. That's how we will win elections.
Wasn't going to jump in here, but...
You don't need to "attract" moderates, you just need to be factual and reasonable, and let the crazy leftist progressives push them away. As is already happening.
You don't need to "attract" moderates, you just need to be factual and reasonable, and let the crazy leftist progressives push them away. As is already happening.
Why do people always have to back up their opinion citing the rarest of occasions? The fact is that the majority of people are not aborting babies because they were raped. The majority of abortions are happening because 2 idiots were hot and bothered one night, had sex, and now they dont want to be responsible for the consequences of their actions.
Start another thread.
But if you're gonna force a woman to carry to term then why would anybody care about that baby going to a loving home? Pick one, abortion or baby goes to a gay home
I think if a couple, regardless of orientation, can provide a caring and nurturing environment, they should be allowed to adopt.
Beats those dog faced fuckers who have multiple foster kids for the cash.
A human puppy mill.
Maybe if people stopped getting off
on people's sexual preferences, instead of assessing their ability to raise kids, there would be less children in State care.
Beats those dog faced fuckers who have multiple foster kids for the cash.
A human puppy mill.
Maybe if people stopped getting off
on people's sexual preferences, instead of assessing their ability to raise kids, there would be less children in State care.
Because it's more comforting to believe that daddy's little angel was attacked than to believe she did jello shots at a frat party until she let 12 guys run a train on her on the pool table.
You are a terrible human being. I now understand the perspective of your posts. May God have mercy on your soul.
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