Who decides who is the enemy?
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.
Benjamin Franklin
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When abused, that is what the courts are for. Without getting political because I DO NOT want to get booted from this site but courts do no good my friend. You are blind..
Me? Oh, I'm in the...OH SHIT LOOK OUT!!!
There are horrible people who, instead of solving a problem, tangle it up and make it harder to solve for anyone who wants to deal with it. Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Above are both quotes from Nietzsche. Likely a little too deep for for a person who never developed beyond adolescence like yourself.
Hahahahaha! Oh teach us Zarathustra!
Well...actually I studied existential philosophy at university. Interesting you chose to quote Nietzsche. His writings were bastardized and used by Hitler (along with American eugenics) as the basis of much of the Third Reich. Nietzsche himself however would have recoiled at the idea of jackbooted thugs ganging up on the individual.
Now...back to the fun
If someone crashed my entry at o' dark thirty, about the only thing I could be certain of is that my bum ticker would probably run past the heart rate limit where my defib fires. From that point on, everything else would become irrelevant. Seriously, whodunit and what sort of vehicle brought them to my door would have little meaning. Whatever way, the consequences would be the same.
To me, questions whether an MRAP would be necessary, adequate, or appropriate to the task would take back seat to other questions, like why innocent civilians are being reduced to defenseless pawns in a power game pitting their tormentors against escalating paramilitary police empowerment. About why hopelessly outnumbered Border Agents with limited resources and self defeating ROE's are being pitted against cartels with bottomless pockets and the rapacity of sharks. About why our Borders are being daily, actively employed as conduits to import death and misery into our country, and export the Nation's wealth without some sort of effective military reinforcement. IMHO, our Borders and Free Fire Zones are not incompatible concepts, regardless of how many elected morons see it differently.
The America our leadership strives toward is apparently some delusional mixture of happy horseshit and wishful thinking that a five year old would question; but grown men and women are periodically elected to enhance in every way affordable and beyond affordable by the people whose interests they are ordained to protect.
It's simple, when the lunatics run the asylum, most things essential are bound to go 'round the bend.
Beat the horses and lament the children, Hell is on the horizon and approaching at a rate once widely believed impossible.
When a populace is disempowered, it weakens from within. It becomes vulnerable from without to the point where a sniffle takes on the proportions of a fatal malady. Someone crashes our Nation's entry, and what good has all this individual disarmament accomplished? When embarking upon the path of rapacious gun control, all paths lead to enslavement whether from within of without. All a hostile alien power need do is stand by and await the point where our own leadership has already done all the hard work for them.
I know not what path others may choose, but mine does not appear to end with a whimper. That choice isn't even being left to me.
I respect my Constitution, my Government no matter how poorly it performs, and the laws I am bound to obey under rule of law. My government is not my enemy, but it is certainly deluded if it thinks that the safety of its citizenry is solely within its purview, and not a role within which individual citizens may participate. Weaken the people, and their Nation becomes correspondingly weakened.
The Gun Control nuts aren't just empowering themselves; they are also empowering every foreign eye that has ever looked askance at the Red, White and Blue.
We have seen the enemy, and they are not us, but they live in wide distribution among us; and the folks they send to the various Capitals within our Nation do the bidding of fools. A genuinely interesting question would be to ask how they became such fools.
There is at least one time in every Nation's course where it needs to reevaluate why it does what it does, and reorient its course toward a more viable and healthy goals. That time has come and is rapidly receding into obscurity. The vast inertia of governments makes about turns neigh impossible. At some point one needs to recognize that the cake' been out in the rain for too long and needs to be replaced in an immediate and more effective manner. When current means and methods keep being repeated with precisely the opposite results of the declared goals, somebody has to throw the psycho flag, and make a serious effort to find that 'reset' button.
I think that omelets make for a great breakfast, no matter how one makes them; but we're already past breakfast time and lunch time, and inexorably approaching a condemned convict's last supper of duck and grits (where one ducks one's head beneath the table top and grits one's teeth)...
I say IMHO that ass is ready and waiting overdue to be kicked.
Greg
The only reason for a cop to cover his face? Because he is a criminal and doesn't want to be identified.
Cops have neither the experience nor training to be military units. Hence why the number of people being killed yearly is doubling once police go all military in that area. If you kill someone in the line of duty, and it turns out you killed someone who was guilty of nothing. You should be tried for murder hands down. If you shoot and wound someone in the line of duty, their should be an outside trial, not an IA investigation by your own buddies. When the people who are policing the police happens to be their own friends, you can expect nothing less than a power trip.
A real cerebral man you are.
And you just proved Godwins Law.
Those who cannot understand how to put their thoughts on ice should not enter into the heat of debate
The country I grew up was one where when the bad guys covered their faces and the good guys shot them. Is there a need to change this? If you think you have to wear a mask to protect yourself/ID, I'd suggest you follow your internal "in-stinks" and find a safer line of work.
And haveith One Bullet!
Interesting to mention a show from the 60's. We need more super spec ops LE (especially in DHHS, EPA and other such dept's), but the homicide rate is at a historically low not seen sense the 60's.
And now you all look alike.
Why thank you for your kind words.
No nazi name calling needed just the comparison.For Goodwin's Law to apply, I'd need to call YOU an Nazi which I did not. I just mentioned it's relevance since some people are making comparisons between unwarranted traffic stops, militarized police forces, etc. You're not a Nazi. Maybe I could draw a comparison between those that stood on the sideline and watched the Nazis take power, but you're no Brown Shirt.
Why re-invent the wheel when someone has already said it perfectly.Those that quote others incessantly usually have no thoughts of their own.
When you say "you all" who are you referring to?
The only reason for a cop to cover his face? Because he is a criminal and doesn't want to be identified.
Cops have neither the experience nor training to be military units. Hence why the number of people being killed yearly is doubling once police go all military in that area. If you kill someone in the line of duty, and it turns out you killed someone who was guilty of nothing. You should be tried for murder hands down. If you shoot and wound someone in the line of duty, their should be an outside trial, not an IA investigation by your own buddies. When the people who are policing the police happens to be their own friends, you can expect nothing less than a power trip.
Your welcome. But I though you could grasp sarcasm.
No nazi name calling needed just the comparison.
Why re-invent the wheel when someone has already said it perfectly.
And those who have nothing of value to say use pictures.
You can have at it now as I have grown tired of your razor wit. You might need a little time on the wet stone.
Ya'll know what I mean LOL. So, you must admit there's a bit of a striking similarity to the LA bank robbers attire and the new tactic-cop getup. I'm all for equipping the police with the tools they need to get the job done, but fuggin' ninja outfits and MRAPs? Seriously, does Mayberry need a paramilitary police force
Ya'll know what I mean LOL. So, you must admit there's a bit of a striking similarity to the LA bank robbers attire and the new tactic-cop getup. I'm all for equipping the police with the tools they need to get the job done, but fuggin' ninja outfits and MRAPs? Seriously, does Mayberry need a paramilitary police force
This isn't Mayberry anymore.
This is the most uneducated and ignorant comment in this entire thread.
The standard issue side arm may not be enough in cases like those.
"Americans Killed by Cops Now Outnumber Americans Killed in Iraq War" All you need to know.
I remember stories of cops going into a gun shop during the shootout to get proper rifles. I think a lot of LE dept's added a carbine to the cars after that.
I hope those cock suckers get what they deserveDid they ride up in one?
A SWAT team blew a hole in my 2-year-old son (UPDATE) - Salon.com
I'd pay to be on that jury,... want a bunch want-a-bees.
Pusher, I am not a cop hater but I don automatically trust them anymore. I suggest that if you are a cop you guys need to police out the over dressed ninja jackoffs, you guys know who they are on your force/dept. The pendulum will swing the other way and the cops will be castrated of all these goodies , probably too far. Its up to the good ones (99%) to weed out the bad ones.
This is the most uneducated and ignorant comment in this entire thread.
Unfortunately where I live there is alot of gang activity(thank God I am moving next week) so the cops are all assholes. My neighbor is a city cop and he is a pretty decent fellow but they relegated him to a desk job on nights because he wouldn't write bullshit tickets... The town I live in all the decent folks are leaving because of the gangs so of course the city's revenue now comes mainly from criminal proceedings and traffic stops...
Sealegs, It's the opposite around here. The State guys are mostly OK. Deputies are probably 50/50 good guys/assholes. The city cops in the little towns around here are about 85% strait-up cocksucker.
True, but it's not Fallujah either. Gotta' be a happy medium that doesn't require military style vehicles...Just sayn'
"Americans Killed by Cops Now Outnumber Americans Killed in Iraq War" All you need to know.
Sheer curiousity, what would be your "happy medium"? You're right in that it's not Fallujah (at least not yet anyway) but there is an increased risk. So what would you like to see cops outfitted with in order to keep them safe?
Glad you asked.
Equipment:
Rifles
Pistols
Shotguns
Body armor
Squad cars/trucks
Radios
Medical gear
Rain gear
Road flares
Condoms I guess...
Not needed:
Military vehicles
Ninja masks
Full auto firearms
Frag grenades
RPGs - I'm looking at you FS1
Nukes
Barbie dolls
Ballet slippers
Personality:
Sense of service
Respect for the law & due process
Humility
Humor
Understanding that they are civil servants (civilians) and not military
Respect for their sworn oath to the people they serve
Most importantly, how about better pay, benefits, and more cops.
Edit: Donuts...I almost forgot donuts. That would be unforgivable.
I was hoping for a serious reply.
Sheer curiousity, what would be your "happy medium"? You're right in that it's not Fallujah (at least not yet anyway) but there is an increased risk. So what would you like to see cops outfitted with in order to keep them safe?
Local Indiana sheriff, who obtained an MRAP, justified by saying that he is concerned that trained Vets could become civilian terrorists.
If that is the case, he and his deputies do not have a chance I hell.
I don't have a dog in this fight, as I am just a dumb redneck civilian, but correct me if I'm wrong in the fact that I cant remember seeing, hearing or finding a story about police being hit with IED's, RPG's or other highly explosive devices while serving a warrant or otherwise. I don't see what an oversized, over armored , expensive MRAP can do better than a standard up-armored suv or van can do. And the suv or van would be easier to navigate down your standard urban/suburban/rural street. I mean, unless you plan on driving it straight through the front of the building, then maybe the MRAP would get my vote. It just seems like MRAPs would be more useful on the border, as stated in an earlier post.
Regardless it all boils down to this, if you didn't have asshole, cock sucking scumbag citizens, then you wouldn't have asshole, cock sucking scumbag cops.
Right, because cops are citizens. They're civil-servants like the postman.