Keto Weight Loss Plateau

[sled_mack]

I don’t think I get to full keto. But I have cut out almost all processed carbs, bread, pasta, etc. Raw sugar/corn syrup is out for sure.
For me, intermittent fasting has had the biggest effect. Even when I travel for work and don’t eat as clean as I want, the intermittent fasting helps me a lot.

 

[Simonsza1]

If your interested at all in knowing your state of ketosis then the piss strips are a must have.

 

[JRaven]

If your interested at all in knowing your state of ketosis then the piss strips are a must have.

Just a heads up, the keto urine strips are terribly inaccurate. If you looking for some novel high five, they are OK. You can just go with the taste in your mouth - like sucking on pennies. You have to test blood for an accurate measure of ketones.

My son is T1D so I have tested all this stuff on him and myself.

 

[JRaven]

I don’t think I get to full keto. But I have cut out almost all processed carbs, bread, pasta, etc. Raw sugar/corn syrup is out for sure.
For me, intermittent fasting has had the biggest effect. Even when I travel for work and don’t eat as clean as I want, the intermittent fasting helps me a lot.

Keto flu comes from lack of electrolytes. You have to supplement with salt, 5-8 grams a day. Robb Wolf has a nice write up about it.

The Keto Flu: Symptoms, Remedies and How to Avoid It

The ketogenic diet is an increasingly popular option for people looking for a natural way to lose weight and burn fat. In certain cases, the diet--which is low in carbohydrates, high in healthful fats, and moderate in protein--can even be used to help manage a variety of chronic illnesses, including

robbwolf.com

 

[Int1968]

I was wrong,
“Urine strips were designed primarily to monitor diabetic ketones in order to help prevent diabetics from unknowingly getting into  ketoacidosis.  Not to be confused with nutritional ketosis, ketoacidosis is a very serious metabolic state caused by insulin deficiency  that occurs when high ketone levels are present with very high glucose levels. As a result, urine strips are effective in helping diabetics avoid a dangerous state. However, because urine strips measure  excess  or excreted ketones in the urine, they are inaccurate in determining nutritional ketosis and how well your body is utilizing ketones as fuel. 

When first transitioning to ketosis, sometimes the body will make excess acetoacetate ketones, which will show up in your urine and on urinestrip tests. If you get a reading for high ketones early on with a urine strip, it’s a sign that you are producing ketones but not an accurate measurement of your level of ketosis (ketones in your blood). Try the same test a few weeks later while maintaining a keto diet and your urine test may reveal no ketones, even if you are actually in ketosis. As your body becomes fat-adapted, it converts ketone bodies more efficiently and is less likely to expel them. 

Accuracy with urine tests for ketones can also be affected by your level of hydration; varying levels of hydration may result in inconsistent results. In addition, the readings are somewhat subjective when comparing the color on the strip to the color on the package. And the reading you get is not a reading at the moment in time, it’s the sum of ketones present since your last urination.

Bottom line: urine strips are a great way to know that you are starting to produce ketones in your first few weeks of following a ketogenic diet but not an accurate measurement of nutritional ketosis. If you plan to follow a ketogenic diet for more than a few weeks, and we highly recommend you do, then we recommend youinvest in a blood ketone and glucose meter where you will be able to more accurately measure your level of ketosis and the foods that affect you.”

 

[The D]

It should be recommended by a doc IMHO

My wife is a nurse practitioner and is saving people’s lives(not hyperbolic at all) with the keto diet. It’s becoming a more viable idea every day

 

[Bigfatcock]

Is pussy keto friendly?

 

[The D]

Yes. If you eat pussy and fuck instead of eating you’re closer to being in ketosis. So bang away!

 

[Shootinsurveyor]

Just lurking…

Have any of you had a full bloodwork panel done while eating a ketogenic diet? Long term health effects on kidneys etc. I know some people who are really into Keto and swear it’s super healthy but I haven’t seen any real person data yet other than the weight loss that occurs when following it.

 

[The D]

Just lurking…

Have any of you had a full bloodwork panel done while eating a ketogenic diet? Long term health effects on kidneys etc. I know some people who are really into Keto and swear it’s super healthy but I haven’t seen any real person data yet other than the weight loss that occurs when following it.

Home | Carnivore MD

Western medicine has failed us. It's time to change the paradigm and return to the most sought after foods by humans. Choose an animal-based diet and change your life.

www.carnivoremd.com

This guy is pretty controversial in the diet/health community but I love his podcast. He is a legit certified Dr and is very open about his story, how his diet has evolved over the last 10-ish years, and especially his blood panels which he reviews on the podcast fairly regularly. The podcast list on his site isn’t current with his YouTube channel or the Apple podcast list, I’m sure it’s because it takes time to build the specific pages with the links and all the other stuff he talks about. This is always a podcast I listen to as soon as possible when it’s released.

Here is the most recent blood panel podcast but I definitely recommend searching through and finding some older ones. He also has a podcast describing how to select a diy blood panel, if you so choose

 

[JRaven]

Just lurking…

Have any of you had a full bloodwork panel done while eating a ketogenic diet? Long term health effects on kidneys etc. I know some people who are really into Keto and swear it’s super healthy but I haven’t seen any real person data yet other than the weight loss that occurs when following it.

Yes. I know this sounds crazy but I have done full blood work twice a year since I was 25 with the same research scientist - I am 45 now. My version of the "keto diet" is high protein so it is not in line with what people considered a clinical/typical ketogenic diet by in the early 2000s. But what I have seen over the last 20 years is a move towards Mauro Di Pasquales' Anabolic Diet's recommendations on protein. Early on there was this fear of gluconeogenesis but that is the Yeti of nutrition.

At this point, carb allocations are related to body fat. The leaner you are the more carbs you can tolerate. The fatter you are the less carbs you get. The only non-negotiable is a high protein diet. If you want to be strong and carry a lot of muscle (our greatest ally to fight aging) you have to eat a high protein diet, lift weights and have a well developed aerobic system. Carbs and fat distributions are going to be based on body fat and energy expenditure.

 

[pmclaine]

So there I was Wednesday night...

My Mother In Law came over for her birthday and her brand of dementia has her thinking everyone on the TV is someone she knows and they are were in Boston together, So I'm drinking a small work night glass of whiskey and listening to her say as Tucker Carlson speaks "He's a nice boy, he is in Boston now look, we did lots of things together" and I am disturbed by the possibilities of what she imagines they did together.

Than.......my back begins to hurt. Hurt like really uncomfortable.

I mention "Man my back hurts I'm done" knowing my wife is thinking "You fuck, you can't sit down here while my Mom has ice cream?"

So I go upstairs hop in the shower and think the pulsing of the hot water on my back feels really good because this is really uncomfortable.

Go in lay down in bed and think "Man if someone took a lance and stabbed it down just under my left rib cage and penetrated until it exited just where some lefty would appendix carry this is probably what that would feel like".

And it's not getting better.

So the pain gets to the point it actually makes me puke, and never having had that's happen before, I'm thinking this is going to end up in the hospital. My daughter having already texted Mom having heard me losing my guts which I admit can sound horrifying my wife is asking if she needs to come home from getting her mother settled back at the place.

I'm pretty sure by now this is a kidney stone, never had suffered one but have heard stories AND it's been kind of in the back of my mind eating a keto diet for some 4 or more years now.

Trip to Mass General, it's snowing out, every ambulance that comes in has some screaming homeless person complaining of being in pain level 10 and "needing something" while I sit stoically and suck it up.

Dumb move. I got there about 2230 and didn't get seen until 0330 because I wasn't in pain like the dudes that knew the game and got some meds and a warm bed.

So an intern sees me. I give her my suspicions. She says she will send the attending in and my wife and I sit for another half hour before I said fuck this and we left. I actually think the bumpy ride in on the snow covered roads may have been a helping factor as I started to feel better after leaving the car.

Now last night I'm getting ready to go to bed, taking the night leak, everything's going swimmingly when all of a sudden "squib round"! Couldn't stop the piss if I wanted to most times but now the water works are shut down, sudden burning, build up of propellant pressure and suddenly "6.5 manbun".

Standard size napkin for reference. Yes I reached in through the piss to pick it out because curiosity wasn't going to let that projectile not be scrutinized.

So what do keto peeps think? Cause of the diet? Result of my 12 oz a day coffee habit.

Sadly I've become more sedentary over the last year, PT is about a 30 minute per day total now and most of the day is chair bound. I probably drink two nalgene 32 ouncers of water a day.

Any keto dieter advice for avoiding kidney stones?

Don't want to stop eating this way as I feel good and the food is so good.....

 

[BadDogPSD]

Completely agree. But where do you even buy such a thing: in a pharmacy?
Cause i checked canadian pharmacy online and it looks like that don't have any.
Would like to purchase some just for fun.

I'm using a ketone/glucose meter from Keto Mojo.

 

[The D]

So there I was Wednesday night...

My Mother In Law came over for her birthday and her brand of dementia has her thinking everyone on the TV is someone she knows and they are were in Boston together, So I'm drinking a small work night glass of whiskey and listening to her say as Tucker Carlson speaks "He's a nice boy, he is in Boston now look, we did lots of things together" and I am disturbed by the possibilities of what she imagines they did together.

Than.......my back begins to hurt. Hurt like really uncomfortable.

I mention "Man my back hurts I'm done" knowing my wife is thinking "You fuck, you can't sit down here while my Mom has ice cream?"

So I go upstairs hop in the shower and think the pulsing of the hot water on my back feels really good because this is really uncomfortable.

Go in lay down in bed and think "Man if someone took a lance and stabbed it down just under my left rib cage and penetrated until it exited just where some lefty would appendix carry this is probably what that would feel like".

And it's not getting better.

So the pain gets to the point it actually makes me puke, and never having had that's happen before, I'm thinking this is going to end up in the hospital. My daughter having already texted Mom having heard me losing my guts which I admit can sound horrifying my wife is asking if she needs to come home from getting her mother settled back at the place.

I'm pretty sure by now this is a kidney stone, never had suffered one but have heard stories AND it's been kind of in the back of my mind eating a keto diet for some 4 or more years now.

Trip to Mass General, it's snowing out, every ambulance that comes in has some screaming homeless person complaining of being in pain level 10 and "needing something" while I sit stoically and suck it up.

Dumb move. I got there about 2230 and didn't get seen until 0330 because I wasn't in pain like the dudes that knew the game and got some meds and a warm bed.

So an intern sees me. I give her my suspicions. She says she will send the attending in and my wife and I sit for another half hour before I said fuck this and we left. I actually think the bumpy ride in on the snow covered roads may have been a helping factor as I started to feel better after leaving the car.

Now last night I'm getting ready to go to bed, taking the night leak, everything's going swimmingly when all of a sudden "squib round"! Couldn't stop the piss if I wanted to most times but now the water works are shut down, sudden burning, build up of propellant pressure and suddenly "6.5 manbun".

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Standard size napkin for reference. Yes I reached in through the piss to pick it out because curiosity wasn't going to let that projectile not be scrutinized.

So what do keto peeps think? Cause of the diet? Result of my 12 oz a day coffee habit.

Sadly I've become more sedentary over the last year, PT is about a 30 minute per day total now and most of the day is chair bound. I probably drink two nalgene 32 ouncers of water a day.

Any keto dieter advice for avoiding kidney stones?

Don't want to stop eating this way as I feel good and the food is so good.....

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Something I’ve been reading about lately are oxalates in plants and how they accumulate in the body. When you stop eating them it triggers the body to get rid of them which will manifest in all sorts of weird ways. There’s a new book called Toxic Superfoods by Sally Norton that could be of use

Sally K. Norton

Vitality Coach, Speaker & Health Consultant

sallyknorton.com

 

[cas6969]

People who try fasting, have problems and give up, really should try it again. I've found my body responds differently to it each time. There are times when I start and it causes all my joints to hurt (they hurt most of the time, but this is a lot more than normal. Like a constant burning ache, almost "itchy" feeling). When that happens I just eat and forget about it.

A common for many people is headaches. I just eat some salt and they go away. I have had times where after a couple days my brain just wasn't firing on all cylinders and I felt like I was crashing. Conversely, I've done 7 day fasts with no side effects at all, other than the normal mental one of always feeling like there's something you should be doing but forgot to.

Normally what gets me out of fasting or an intermitant fasting routine is pain from existing injuries. Can't work (walk) the way I am in the morning, so I need to take something for the pain, which I can't do on an empty stomach. So the awful breakfast habit begins again.

 

[Simonsza1]

Jar of cola sounds good for you

 

[The D]

Jar of cola sounds good for you

You spelled liter wrong

 

[Punkur67]

I'm 34 and had been gaining weight gradually since high school. I was an athlete in high school and in very good shape and after school ended and real life with work, marriage, kids, etc happened I started gaining weight. I 6'1" and weighed about 185 in high school and I had got up to around 220 and stayed there for several years until I started gaining again a few years ago. This June I got up to my all time high of 261, and knew I had to make changes. I started the keto diet at the beginning of July and have gone from 261 down to my current weight of 226. I saw a very rapid weight loss the first month and a half and then it has gradually slowed until now, where I have been at roughly the same weight for a couple weeks now with no change at all.

Have any of you on keto experienced one of these "plateaus" like this before? If so how did you get out of it? My goal weight is 200, I would still have a little fat at that weight but would be pretty slim and healthy. I'm worried these last 25 pounds are going to be really hard to get off. I assume my metabolism has slowed to the point where my calorie deficit isn't doing much for me anymore, but I already feel like I am eating about as few calories as I can get away with. Do any of you have any suggestions?

I have broke plateaus by carb loading for a day or doing a multi day fast. Also started B12, B complex and lipo injections. I was stuck on a plateau at 45 lbs loss for about a month and the weight started coming off after the injections. I dropped another 9#s since I started injections 3 weeks ago. Luckily my wife has her own business doing injections so they are cheap for me.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Exercise will help with the plateau.

 

[alpine44]

BFC beat me to it:

Exercise is the factor most people (intentionally) ignore in the weight gain/loss equation. The calories expended on physical activity and for maintaining core temperature are not going to end up on your waistline. I you bump that number up high enough, you will not even have to resort to purposeful malnutrition like Keto, Atkins, Paleo, etc.

Those who use a jacked-up body as an excuse for a sedentary lifestyle may want to consider swimming. Low impact, easily adjustable resistance (drag increases at square of speed) plus the water will suck gobs of additional calories out of you just from being colder.

 

[oldshooterback]

Next Monday I am starting the “carnivore” diet, two reasons, lose weight (10#), and eat healthier. No bugs either!
not doing it cold turkey, been weaning myself off the sweets, plant food, and carbs the past 2 weeks. What could be wrong with eating nothing but meat? I’ll identify as a cave man!

 

[The D]

BFC beat me to it:

Exercise is the factor most people (intentionally) ignore in the weight gain/loss equation. The calories expended on physical activity and for maintaining core temperature are not going to end up on your waistline. I you bump that number up high enough, you will not even have to resort to purposeful malnutrition like Keto, Atkins, Paleo, etc.

Those who use a jacked-up body as an excuse for a sedentary lifestyle may want to consider swimming. Low impact, easily adjustable resistance (drag increases at square of speed) plus the water will suck gobs of additional calories out of you just from being colder.

Keto/Atkins/Paleo are not deficient in any micro/macro nutrients in and of themselves. There are definitely ways to construct an individual diet plan the wrong way but that’s the individual’s fault

Next Monday I am starting the “carnivore” diet, two reasons, lose weight (10#), and eat healthier. No bugs either!
not doing it cold turkey, been weaning myself off the sweets, plant food, and carbs the past 2 weeks. What could be wrong with eating nothing but meat? I’ll identify as a cave man!

Do you know who Paul Saladino is?

Home | Carnivore MD

Western medicine has failed us. It's time to change the paradigm and return to the most sought after foods by humans. Choose an animal-based diet and change your life.

www.paulsaladinomd.co

 

[oldshooterback]

Thanks for the lead on Paul, will research that today.

 

[JR_77]

There are so many fitness/nutrition people out there today but one guy I have learned a lot from is Thomas DeLauer his methods are more facts based than others and provides a wealth of information to help you get started correctly.

 

[whilsonh]

Glad tht I've found this thread and that I'm not alone who decided to try Keto. Thanks for sharing your experiences and useful information!
I've recently discovered a LMNT electrolyte drink. Did anyone try it? Is it worth it?

 

[higginsworksforme]

You spelled liter wrong

I don't want a Large Farva!

 

[Redmanss]

Glad tht I've found this thread and that I'm not alone who decided to try Keto. Thanks for sharing your experiences and useful information!
I've recently discovered a LMNT electrolyte drink. Did anyone try it? Is it worth it?

Go be fat somewhere else.

 

[cas6969]

Bots get fat?

 

[The D]

I don't want a Large Farva!

 

[pmclaine]

Glad tht I've found this thread and that I'm not alone who decided to try Keto. Thanks for sharing your experiences and useful information!
I've recently discovered a LMNT electrolyte drink. Did anyone try it? Is it worth it?

If you like this thread wait until you find the gay sex hook up thread.

 

[The D]

If you like this thread wait until you find the gay sex hook up thread.

That’s most of the rest of the threads though

 

[Milf Dots]

Is pussy keto friendly?

Yes to the beef curtains, no to any pubes.