Kid's pediatrician asked about guns in the house

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We just had our 3rd baby and she had her first appointment this morning. After the typical questions about her birth weight/length and hospital info they really upset me.

Nurse assist- Any animals at home and what?
Me: (puzzled) A couple dogs

Nurse assist- Anyone smoke at home?
Me: Um, no...

Nurse assist- Any guns in the house?
Me: You don't need to know any of this.
Nurse looks at me slightly irritated- Well are they locked up in a safe or something?
Me: That is an inappropriate question and none of your business.
Nurse- it is just something we ask, they are general questions.
Me: They are inappropriate, we are here for a dr appointment.

She finished her stuff and left in a hurry. I have never had them ask this before, but my wife told me they had asked her in a previous appointment with my sons. She just ignored the question and they let it go.

It irritates me that they asked any of those questions, and really ticked me off when she didn't let it go after I told her it wasn't her business. I should have thought faster and asked her something personal and none of my business, but I realize it is something her computer program asks for and she is just doing her job.

I am going to fire off a letter to the managment of that office though. I can only imagine they are documenting those answers and hard to say if they will end up in a government statistic or be a deciding factor in some insurance coverage thing.

Anyone have this happen to them?

Jethro
 
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This is a clearly defined goal to get this information on record from all pediatricians. It's a great way to get a permanent record of gun owners when other methods fail.

The government wants to know...
 
#7
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This crap irritates me, because it is quite obvious that anti-gun folks are starting to push the gun issue into an issue of "public health".

Asking if you have guns in your home simply isn't at all related to the health of your child.
 
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If you really want to give them food for thought, very sweetly ask them if you should report ethical boundary violations to the Medical (or Nursing) Board.

In my experience, pediatricians are <span style="font-style: italic">generally</span> among the worst of socialist control-freaks. Be very careful <span style="font-style: italic">what</span> you say and <span style="font-style: italic">how</span> you say it. You can be sure that if you do an "Alex Jones" on the pediatrician or staff, the odds are high they will vindictively report you to Child Protective Services—and if they do that, you will suffer enormously and have NO recourse. Once they call it a CPS matter, they will have "bullet-proof" immunity.... metaphorically, of course.

 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Miles2go</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ask them if they have any Percocet in their houses. </div></div>

Ding ding!

Or Xanax, Ambien, Lunesta, Ativan, old school Valium on top of the chronic pain hacks doling out >100 Percs and Oxys a month to all kinds who don't need it.......prescribed in ridiculous quantities yet fine because they come with a script. Lots of folks going through every day on that crap for anything and everything. Of course they are no danger to others.
 
#12
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This subject came up with my wife and I just last wk during dr visit. I piped up and answered for her. Later I told her that when these questions are asked the answer is always "No". I don't think she gets it though.
 
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Yes, and I told them evenly it was none of their business. If they had asked a second time I would have repeated myself and said that if they asked again we would switch pediatricians.
 
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never had them ask me that, if it ever does come up, i'm going to respond how big is your penis/breast?


i need to know that info about as they need to know if i own a gun
 
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Yes they asked me that when I started taking my 3 year old in for shots and checkups. Looked like a standard question on their list. Some of the literature they gave us talked about general safety like making sure guns were locked up out of reach of kids. Of course I gave a smart ass answer. Yes we have guns in the house but the holster pulls her diaper down too much. If CPS shows up they have at least 100 feet of open ground to cover under potential fire. I have a 9 year old and a 23 year old and these questions were never asked back then. But those were military doctors back then too not civilian pediactricians.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nukes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you really want to give them food for thought, very sweetly ask them if you should report ethical boundary violations to the Medical (or Nursing) Board.

In my experience, pediatricians are <span style="font-style: italic">generally</span> among the worst of socialist control-freaks. Be very careful <span style="font-style: italic">what</span> you say and <span style="font-style: italic">how</span> you say it. You can be sure that if you do an "Alex Jones" on the pediatrician or staff, the odds are high they will vindictively report you to Child Protective Services—and if they do that, you will suffer enormously and have NO recourse. Once they call it a CPS matter, they will have "bullet-proof" immunity.... metaphorically, of course.

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This.

To answer OP's question-Yes. This happened to us after our first child was born.

We also decided that our child did not need certain ridiculous vaccines (hepB, chickenpox (seriously who ever died from the fucking chickenpox?), rotavirus, polio, etc) At some point when the government loving pediatrician finally realized we weren't going to be swayed by their pleas to "save" our child from imminent death she actually FIRED us. Told us she would not be our pediatrician. It worked out well in the end because we found our current one after that and he is a superb physician.

These questions are not specific to any one pediatrician. It is part of a program. Don't ever forget that.

j
 
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Yes we have been asked and the answer is simply "not applicable". For some reason they accept that answer without question.

It has already been stated in several places, but this is part of the documentation and sharing of information between federal and state agencies. There is no veiled intent here, it's out in the open.

Talking to my own doc a couple weeks ago, he refuses to ask the question because he feels that its none of the "their" business. Who is they? It's a large group of insurance providers that provide the stock questions. However, the data is shared with the CDC, according to my doc. He's a keeper.

He also stated that they give him all kinds of grief over it. They try to pressure him to complete the full questionnaire, but they don't really have any recourse as off a couple weeks ago. Now that executive orders have been signed, who knows. All they could do so far was give him bad grades, but the grades don't mean anything to him.
 
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I had a doc ask me this a few years ago, after saying none of your business several times, she persisted. I then got up, walked to the front desk, asked what I owed, and told them to give me my records.

When the administrator asked why, i said i was off to find a new doctor, as I didnt appreciate them inserting themselves into things that were none of their god damn concern.

three or four phonecalls begging me to reconsider later, they got the hint and fucked off.
 
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Ha had this Happen Friday kinda for my 4 month old. But it was a bit different as the Doc wants guns and wants to go and shoot. He asked because I was wearing a Sig Sauer shirt and He asked how to say it and if I shoot. So in the end His wife doesn't want them and He does. I'll have to take him shooting sometime.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys realize you can lie to these people, right?

I get asked this all the time and I <span style="color: #FF0000">"Just say no".
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Fixed it for ya. Youll make Nancy Raygun proud.
 
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just imagine how this information will be shared after obama care is in effect

do NOT forget that EVERYTHING revolves around money - vote with every dollar you spend and find a doc that acts / treats you the way YOU want - utilize capitalism while you still can
 
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This is our second doctor in this practice, we fired the first because he got visibly upset at us a few times for opting out of the flu vaccine. When he slammed his clipboaard and walked out I had my fill.

Here is the letter I intend to send:

To whom it may concern-
I am writing to voice my concerns for what I assume is a new line of procedural questioning during doctor visits at your practice. Today while bringing my newborn daughter in for her first visit, I was asked 3 questions whose purpose is confusing to me and which I also strongly believe are inappropriate.

During the initial conversation with the nurse who brought us back to our room (I believe her name is xxx), we were asked the following questions: Are there any animals in your home, does anyone smoke in your home and do you have any firearms in your home?
I answered the first 2 questions and then voiced my disapproval of the third (any firearms) and told her I did not wish to answer the question. She then continued her line of questioning and asked if they were locked in safe (note that I hadn’t answered the initial question as to whether I even own a firearm). I then told her the questions were inappropriate.

I wish to express my concern with these questions which I feel are no one’s business. These questions had no bearing on our purpose in your office and I am concerned with the reasoning behind them. There are no laws prohibiting me from owning animals, smoking or owning firearms. I am confused and troubled with the intentions of these questions.

If my children were being seen for some respiratory issue, I could understand asking if someone in the home was a smoker. If they were suffering from some allergic reaction, asking about animals would also seem to be appropriate. I cannot see why those would be pertinent for a newborn’s well check.

I cannot see any purpose to ask about any property I may own or keep in my home, firearm or otherwise. That question is a clear invasion of my family’s privacy. Further, I wonder what the follow up question would have been if I told the nurse I owned firearms and did not keep them in a safe. I cannot understand how this question would have any bearing on the treatment my family would receive. I also am concerned with what was documented as I did not answer the question.

I have 3 children which have now received treatment at your practice, xxxxx, xxxxx and xxxxx. If there is some documentation contained in their files about any of the above questions, I request that documentation be removed immediately. Furthermore, my wife and I will not answer questions such as these and will not continue to pursue business with your practice if we are asked these questions again.

I request that I receive some response from your office as to why these invasive questions are asked and of what value they are to my children’s treatment.

With all the choices of pediatricians in the Phoenix area, we were referred to your office. We are happy with the care we receive and like the staff. Our doctor is Dr.xxxx and we feel she is a phenomenal physician- we do not wish to go elsewhere. I appreciate your prompt response to this matter.
 
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The question is part of the Obamacare deal that makes medical records open to government view. Basically it is an end around to try to get gun owners to out themselves.
 
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My wife (a clinic nurse) says that you don't have to answer these questions if you're on private pay or private insurance. She says you do if the government is paying for the services. (medicare). I would just tell them that I do not have any.
 
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Call the main Dr. in and explain to him/her why you will be leaving, calling the medical board, and getting in touch with your family lawyer (if you have one.) None of their fucking business. Period.
 
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there was a video i was trying to find dealing with this. a doctor was making it her goal in life to get guns out of the homes of kids, i cant find it but here were a few others i have seen. <object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hBUZG6GWY1w"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hBUZG6GWY1w" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object>

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I had a doctor in Utah ask.
He asked 2 minutes after he got done ranting about how much he hates Obamacare. I couldn't believe it just said no and haven't been back.

Have to love Montana and Wyoming though
My doctor is happy if your informed about what vaccines and treatments you want to give your kids. He's just honest.
Tells you what he knows as a doctor and let's you decide.
He even rocks a nightforce sticker on his work computer.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys realize you can lie to these people, right?

I get asked this all the time and I just say, "no". </div></div>

THIS ^
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aam</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys realize you can lie to these people, right?

I get asked this all the time and I just say, "no". </div></div>

THIS ^
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It's the principle!!
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people can be so content with bending over backwards and just complying with this nonsense...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: okrebel92</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aam</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys realize you can lie to these people, right?

I get asked this all the time and I just say, "no". </div></div>

THIS ^
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It's the principle!!
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people can be so content with bending over backwards and just complying with this nonsense... </div></div>


I do and don't agree with you, and here's what I mean

1) You're damn right it's the principle and it's none of their fucking business

however

2) Tell them that and you've already told them everything they need to know, which defeats the purpose of telling them anything to begin with.

My feeling is:

Fuck 'em... sideways, with a Buick. You're not under oath, and it's none of their damn business. Like the old anti-drug slogans used to say "Just say 'No.' "
 
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"The principle of the thing" has formed the weapon which has been efficiently employed by the unprincipled in order to use honesty and integrity as weapons again those with honor an integrity, for centuries. The tactic probably predates the Spanish Inquisition.

I keep telling you guys not to let them make you play their games by sets of rules which make it impossible for you to win ("Witches will sink, and the righteous will drown...").

You send your letters, they put you on their lists of problem children to be dealt with in a more opportune setting.

You gather in defiance, they take ample pictures, to be trotted out as evidence of revolutionary/terroristic behavior.

Stupid people wave red flags in the faces of bulls.

Smarter people recognize that these same stupid people will argue with anyone who tries to get them to cease and desist from their semi-suicidal behavior until both of you are blue in he face, insisting that it is both their right and obligation to do so. Smarter people recognize the futility of trying help such people, and rightly conclude that a fool is best left to his own resources, before he takes the entire lifeboat down with him.

Besides, they make for rather convenient diversions.

Get your heads on straight people, and recognize provocation for what it is.

My answer is always, "Why no, and I'd be the first to tell you because I think that's a very important question. I'm glad you asked; we really must do all we can to keep those evil guns out of regular peoples' homes."

Greg
 
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This has been going on way before ObamaCare. I had my wife and son asked this question about 10 years ago, when the wife came home and told me that evening I blew a cork on the Dr.'s office and we were never asked it again. Not sure if they changed their policy or just didn't ask anymore. It was explained to me that it was a generic questioner in their program, I told them they needed to look into their programs a little better. They had just gone to a new computer program system at that time so I believe that part as we had never been asked that before.
 
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All three of our boys have been taught from their earliest years that the proper answer to that question is, "That is none of your business" and to then STFU, ie, be silent. I had one Dr. look at me at the dermatologist a few weeks ago and go,"Seriously?"
Before I could say anything, my middle son looks at her and says,
"I am here for an appointment to make sure my face and back are not permanently damaged from acne, not for you to see what we have in the house or do for recreation. Are your boobs real or fake?"
I almost fucking lost it. I was close to shaking trying to keep a very straight face, had to turn my head, take a deep breath, and look right at her as I said,"The boy asked you a question,are you ignoring him?"
You ever see a dermatologist turn deep red? I think her face matched her hair for a moment. The boy then launched into a very good, fact based reasoning on why one, she should not ask about that stuff, and two, how the entire gun control issue was rife with propaganda on the side of the left as she worked. Then he went on about how some people have stupid drift wings on their cars that can;t even do the speed limit in third gear...heh heheh heh, it was her car!
When we went back yesterday, she looks at Sam, and simply goes,"How have you been since you were here last?"
I find it so great that a 16 year old decimates people with his reasoning and fact based speech. I should never have given him Weston's 'The Rulebook of Arguments' As we were leaving, he asked her where she got her wing at and goes,"I think it would look good on our Zenki, but it needs to sit about 4" lower"
 
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I was asked that by my son's pediatrician shortly after he was born, in the middle of a couple dozen questions about electrical outlets, cabinet locks, stairs, etc. The doc and her husband are very conservative, active in their church, and generally awesome people.

I responded truthfully - "Yes. Why do you ask and why does it matter?"

She told me it was some American Pediatric Association thing, and that she as a doctor 1. keeps no record of the answer and 2. her only concern is that anything that could be a risk to the child, be it a gun or fall hazard, be reasonably secured to prevent accidents.

I told her that was a good enough explanation for me, and that she need not concern herself with how my weapons are secured from my toddler.

I've got no problem answering a question coming from a doctor truthfully...but I've also got no problem asking them why they think such a question is medically pertinent.

Putting folks on the spot to justify something they say or do has a way of correcting certain behaviors...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All three of our boys have been taught from their earliest years that the proper answer to that question is, "That is none of your business" and to then STFU, ie, be silent. I had one Dr. look at me at the dermatologist a few weeks ago and go,"Seriously?"
Before I could say anything, my middle son looks at her and says,
"I am here for an appointment to make sure my face and back are not permanently damaged from acne, not for you to see what we have in the house or do for recreation. Are your boobs real or fake?"
I almost fucking lost it. I was close to shaking trying to keep a very straight face, had to turn my head, take a deep breath, and look right at her as I said,"The boy asked you a question,are you ignoring him?"
You ever see a dermatologist turn deep red? I think her face matched her hair for a moment. The boy then launched into a very good, fact based reasoning on why one, she should not ask about that stuff, and two, how the entire gun control issue was rife with propaganda on the side of the left as she worked. Then he went on about how some people have stupid drift wings on their cars that can;t even do the speed limit in third gear...heh heheh heh, it was her car!
When we went back yesterday, she looks at Sam, and simply goes,"How have you been since you were here last?"
I find it so great that a 16 year old decimates people with his reasoning and fact based speech. I should never have given him Weston's 'The Rulebook of Arguments' As we were leaving, he asked her where she got her wing at and goes,"I think it would look good on our Zenki, but it needs to sit about 4" lower"</div></div>

SB... Thank you for making my day!!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All three of our boys have been taught from their earliest years that the proper answer to that question is, "That is none of your business" and to then STFU, ie, be silent. I had one Dr. look at me at the dermatologist a few weeks ago and go,"Seriously?"
Before I could say anything, my middle son looks at her and says,
"I am here for an appointment to make sure my face and back are not permanently damaged from acne, not for you to see what we have in the house or do for recreation. Are your boobs real or fake?"
I almost fucking lost it. I was close to shaking trying to keep a very straight face, had to turn my head, take a deep breath, and look right at her as I said,"The boy asked you a question,are you ignoring him?"
You ever see a dermatologist turn deep red? I think her face matched her hair for a moment. The boy then launched into a very good, fact based reasoning on why one, she should not ask about that stuff, and two, how the entire gun control issue was rife with propaganda on the side of the left as she worked. Then he went on about how some people have stupid drift wings on their cars that can;t even do the speed limit in third gear...heh heheh heh, it was her car!
When we went back yesterday, she looks at Sam, and simply goes,"How have you been since you were here last?"
I find it so great that a 16 year old decimates people with his reasoning and fact based speech. I should never have given him Weston's 'The Rulebook of Arguments' As we were leaving, he asked her where she got her wing at and goes,"I think it would look good on our Zenki, but it needs to sit about 4" lower" </div></div>

Switch, tell you boy Maggot says "Well played, son, well played."
 
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When I did Pedi rotations this question was asked simply to make sure that parents are aware that guns needs to be locked up or kept out of reach of their children.
I am not sure what the paranoia some of you guys seem to be demonstrating is based on.
The answers to those questions don’t go in to any kind of record.
It’s the same as asking if you have covers over light plugs or cabinets and toilet seat covers that are child proofed.
You guys really can take the tinfoil hats off every now and then.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All three of our boys have been taught from their earliest years that the proper answer to that question is, "That is none of your business" and to then STFU, ie, be silent. I had one Dr. look at me at the dermatologist a few weeks ago and go,"Seriously?"
Before I could say anything, my middle son looks at her and says,
"I am here for an appointment to make sure my face and back are not permanently damaged from acne, not for you to see what we have in the house or do for recreation. Are your boobs real or fake?"
I almost fucking lost it. I was close to shaking trying to keep a very straight face, had to turn my head, take a deep breath, and look right at her as I said,"The boy asked you a question,are you ignoring him?"
You ever see a dermatologist turn deep red? I think her face matched her hair for a moment. The boy then launched into a very good, fact based reasoning on why one, she should not ask about that stuff, and two, how the entire gun control issue was rife with propaganda on the side of the left as she worked. Then he went on about how some people have stupid drift wings on their cars that can;t even do the speed limit in third gear...heh heheh heh, it was her car!
When we went back yesterday, she looks at Sam, and simply goes,"How have you been since you were here last?"
I find it so great that a 16 year old decimates people with his reasoning and fact based speech. I should never have given him Weston's 'The Rulebook of Arguments' As we were leaving, he asked her where she got her wing at and goes,"I think it would look good on our Zenki, but it needs to sit about 4" lower" </div></div>

Personally, if your son had been my patient I would have just stood up and told you to kick rocks and find another doctor. I don’t know any specialist that is hurting for patients bad enough to put up with that kind of disrespect from someone coming to them seeking help.
“Are your boobs real or fake?”….followed by “can you help me?”
Sounds like a class act.
Oh and FWIW,
Every question your doctor asks you is for your benefit not theirs. There are plenty of drugs that can cause severe and sudden depression, including some used to treat acne.
 
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I just got back home from my kids 4 year old check up and got asked the "do you have guns in the house" question. She knows Im in LE and had already checked yes before I answered. She then asks me what my take was on the gun control issues after Sandy Hook and went on explaining how she had not heard hardly any LE people (around here) express thier opinions. I told her thats because we don't listen to the media to get our facts and when a report is issued I'll form an opinion. I then went on to explain my take on gun control and how thier "ban" won't keep criminals from getting and using guns. She told me that she understood why I had guns in LE but the safest home is a home without a gun (for a kid). Since we had just got done discussing "bad touch" with my daughter I asked the DR if someone with a gun was to break into my house to "bad touch" my daughter which would be safer, me not having a gun and that guy having his way with my daughter or me having a gun and killing him for even thinking it? She said she understood and it was the end of the debate. I hope at least I shed some light on the situation for her but I doubt it.
Instead of telling them to Fuck off (as fun as it is) explain to them why you have a gun. I like the question Travis Haley had in his video about a phone and a gun and a note on a table that said someone was going to break into the room in 1 minute and rape and cut your families throat while you watch. Are you going to call 911 and wait 5 minutes for the police to show up or are you going to pick up the gun and protect your family?
Will it help them understand "our" take on guns? Probably not... but at least we can say we tried.
 
#43
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These are all standard questions that the American Academy of Pediatrics wants all their members to ask. The AAP is another left leaning organization and from what I can tell most Pediatricians are left leaning. There are a few that aren't but they are few and far between.

Of course my kids pediatrician is a friend of ours and has seen the shooting range in my backyard - no need to ask.
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#44
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Inappropriate questions get my canned replies:

To a woman: Are you wearing a thong or bikini under that?

To a man: Does the wife wear a thong or bikini?

Is this rude of me? Yes it is but...
People teach us how to treat them.
They show little respect well that is what they get back.
They treat me with respect they get it back tenfold and deal with a gentleman.

I have been dealing with Dr.'s quite a bit the last year with a significant health issue and <span style="text-decoration: underline">like in all walks of life</span>...

There are fantastic intelligent caring dr.'s,
intelligent robot like one's,
been doing this too long one's,
and everything in between.

For those with children dealing with the OP's experience "canned replies" prepped for the family is how I would go. I'd maybe let someone other than me decide on them though!
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#46
Re: Kid's pediatrician asked about guns in the house

My whole take is that I don't need someone telling me how to keep my home safe. How to keep my children safe. How to pack my kids lunch for school. How to get them to do their homework. How to make them put on a seatbelt in the car. Teach them right from wrong. How to make good decisions. I got this, you do the medical shit and I'll take care of my house and family. When I take my car to a mechanic I don't expect him to give me marriage counseling, I just want him to fix the fucking car.

Next they'll be asking you what year model of car you drive and if you wipe your ass front to back.
 
#47
Re: Kid's pediatrician asked about guns in the house

You dont have a single clue how much of a jackass that statement paints you as do you?

Things that are your business:

Vaccinations up to date.
Blood sugar level.
Cholesterol count.
Whether or not a bone you set is healing right.


Things that are not your fucking business, never will be, and that any non left leaning person will thank you to keep your fucking nose out of...

If guns are in the house.
How said guns are secured if present.
Whether or not I choose to drive too god damn fast around the autox track.
Whether I wear a full, half or no fucking helmet at all.
Whether or not I like to put it in her ass.


Getting the picture?

How would you like me to come over to work on your home computer and network and start asking you things like what sort of weird porn you surf, and if the wife makes goat sounds while youre balls deep in it?



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: allwheeldriven</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I did Pedi rotations this question was asked simply to make sure that parents are aware that guns needs to be locked up or kept out of reach of their children.
I am not sure what the paranoia some of you guys seem to be demonstrating is based on.
The answers to those questions don’t go in to any kind of record.
It’s the same as asking if you have covers over light plugs or cabinets and toilet seat covers that are child proofed.
You guys really can take the tinfoil hats off every now and then.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All three of our boys have been taught from their earliest years that the proper answer to that question is, "That is none of your business" and to then STFU, ie, be silent. I had one Dr. look at me at the dermatologist a few weeks ago and go,"Seriously?"
Before I could say anything, my middle son looks at her and says,
"I am here for an appointment to make sure my face and back are not permanently damaged from acne, not for you to see what we have in the house or do for recreation. Are your boobs real or fake?"
I almost fucking lost it. I was close to shaking trying to keep a very straight face, had to turn my head, take a deep breath, and look right at her as I said,"The boy asked you a question,are you ignoring him?"
You ever see a dermatologist turn deep red? I think her face matched her hair for a moment. The boy then launched into a very good, fact based reasoning on why one, she should not ask about that stuff, and two, how the entire gun control issue was rife with propaganda on the side of the left as she worked. Then he went on about how some people have stupid drift wings on their cars that can;t even do the speed limit in third gear...heh heheh heh, it was her car!
When we went back yesterday, she looks at Sam, and simply goes,"How have you been since you were here last?"
I find it so great that a 16 year old decimates people with his reasoning and fact based speech. I should never have given him Weston's 'The Rulebook of Arguments' As we were leaving, he asked her where she got her wing at and goes,"I think it would look good on our Zenki, but it needs to sit about 4" lower" </div></div>

Personally, if your son had been my patient I would have just stood up and told you to kick rocks and find another doctor. I don’t know any specialist that is hurting for patients bad enough to put up with that kind of disrespect from someone coming to them seeking help.
“Are your boobs real or fake?”….followed by “can you help me?”
Sounds like a class act.
Oh and FWIW,
Every question your doctor asks you is for your benefit not theirs. There are plenty of drugs that can cause severe and sudden depression, including some used to treat acne.
</div></div>
 
#48
Re: Kid's pediatrician asked about guns in the house

Do the doctors ask you if you have:

a ladder over 3 steps tall
a chainsaw
a pool
a skillsaw
an electric drill
a handsaw
a screwdriver
kitchen knives
poisonous stuff under the sink
lighter fluid for the grill
a lawnmower
a can of gasoline for that mower
I could go on forever...

All dangerous stuff if you don't know how to use them or use them incorrectly. It is not my pediatricians job to teach my kids how to use them, nor his/her concern if I have them or not.

"it's none of your business" is the truth and the correct answer.
 
#49
Re: Kid's pediatrician asked about guns in the house

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: allwheeldriven</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I did Pedi rotations this question was asked simply to make sure that parents are aware that guns needs to be locked up or kept out of reach of their children.
I am not sure what the paranoia some of you guys seem to be demonstrating is based on.
The answers to those questions don’t go in to any kind of record.
It’s the same as asking if you have covers over light plugs or cabinets and toilet seat covers that are child proofed.
You guys really can take the tinfoil hats off every now and then.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All three of our boys have been taught from their earliest years that the proper answer to that question is, "That is none of your business" and to then STFU, ie, be silent. I had one Dr. look at me at the dermatologist a few weeks ago and go,"Seriously?"
Before I could say anything, my middle son looks at her and says,
"I am here for an appointment to make sure my face and back are not permanently damaged from acne, not for you to see what we have in the house or do for recreation. Are your boobs real or fake?"
I almost fucking lost it. I was close to shaking trying to keep a very straight face, had to turn my head, take a deep breath, and look right at her as I said,"The boy asked you a question,are you ignoring him?"
You ever see a dermatologist turn deep red? I think her face matched her hair for a moment. The boy then launched into a very good, fact based reasoning on why one, she should not ask about that stuff, and two, how the entire gun control issue was rife with propaganda on the side of the left as she worked. Then he went on about how some people have stupid drift wings on their cars that can;t even do the speed limit in third gear...heh heheh heh, it was her car!
When we went back yesterday, she looks at Sam, and simply goes,"How have you been since you were here last?"
I find it so great that a 16 year old decimates people with his reasoning and fact based speech. I should never have given him Weston's 'The Rulebook of Arguments' As we were leaving, he asked her where she got her wing at and goes,"I think it would look good on our Zenki, but it needs to sit about 4" lower" </div></div>

Personally, if your son had been my patient I would have just stood up and told you to kick rocks and find another doctor. I don’t know any specialist that is hurting for patients bad enough to put up with that kind of disrespect from someone coming to them seeking help.
“Are your boobs real or fake?”….followed by “can you help me?”
Sounds like a class act.
Oh and FWIW,
Every question your doctor asks you is for your benefit not theirs. There are plenty of drugs that can cause severe and sudden depression, including some used to treat acne.
</div></div>

Ill be sure to tell all my many friends in Texas to avoid you like the plague.
 
#50
Re: Kid's pediatrician asked about guns in the house

Hell they don't have to ask me about guns in my home. Cause when I have to drop my pants to get a shot I inform them not to be shock or alarmed I have a gun on me and I take my IWB rig off and lay it in front of me on the table and get my shot and leave. Never had a doctor or nurse even seem funny about it. God bless Alabama cause to still most be commonplace here and I pray it stays this way.
 
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