Night Vision Laser Deivces Newest Clast 1 CQBL-1

[ffhounddog]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Victor,

Thanks for the reviews and talking with me a few times about gear before my last go overseas.

Sent a PM on the Hide price on the CQBL-1. This is just what the Doc ordered to go with a set of PVS-14s.

 

[kmc0929]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Pros-vs cons this vs dbal i2?

 

[Jackalope33B]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Does it come in Green Laser?

 

[shooter6.5]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Both have a visible and IR laser. The CQB sits lower on the rail and not a QD release. The other is bigger and has a QD type release. And there is a price difference. I have both plus the D2 and like the CQB best, but that is just my thoughts.

They are nost effective with the use of NVG. It does come with a green laser option.

 

[ffhounddog]

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Thanks going to get a CQBL-1 I like the lower profile on my M4 and I will just wait for PM back from TNVC about the discout that was mentioned. I have a set of 14's that I will be using and and a surefire 952v for an illuminator and I like the profile of the CQBL.

 

[kmc0929]

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Will the CQBL clear a Troy front BUIS when folded down?

 

[Victor-TNVC]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmc0929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Will the CQBL clear a Troy front BUIS when folded down? </div></div>

Since the CQBL sits at such a low profile,,,The laser beams will hit the top of the Troy even in the folded down position if mounted at the 12 o'clock.

Vic

 

[HarperJT]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

bump, so I can find it tomorrow.

 

[Victor-TNVC]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Another batch otw next week we're told. TAN CQBL's still on special Hide pricing.

Give us a call.

Vic

 

[HarperJT]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

I ordered on a cuple days ago.

thanks

 

[Victor-TNVC]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HarperJT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I ordered on a cuple days ago.

thanks </div></div>

Thank you for the order!

Vic

 

[Ronn72562]

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Hi Vic
My question is should a new rookie to NV purchase a separate cqbL-1 and add a SPIR illuminator ,or just buy the dbal -d2. ? It looks like they are about the same price when added together for CQBL-1 and SPIR vs dbal-d2.
Thanks Vic
Ron. G

 

[Victor-TNVC]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ron1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Vic
My question is should a new rookie to NV purchase a separate cqbL-1 and add a SPIR illuminator ,or just buy the dbal -d2. ? It looks like they are about the same price when added together for CQBL-1 and SPIR vs dbal-d2.
Thanks Vic
Ron. G </div></div>

If space is a premium on your rifle, no reason not to opt for the D2. With that said, if you ever need to hand hold your IR illuminator, than a stand-alone illuminator may be your choice. Hope this helps and Happy Thanksgiving!

Vic

 

[Victor-TNVC]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Just got word from LDI, our very large order of CQBL's along with a whole bunch of other Class 1's due on our shelves in 2 weeks!

Vic

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Hi Vic
I am a new rookie when it comes the NV and lasers,my question is what is the best way to site in a laser?
Ron g

 

[dbransco]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Victor-TNVC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ron1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Vic
My question is should a new rookie to NV purchase a separate cqbL-1 and add a SPIR illuminator ,or just buy the dbal -d2. ? It looks like they are about the same price when added together for CQBL-1 and SPIR vs dbal-d2.
Thanks Vic
Ron. G </div></div>

If space is a premium on your rifle, no reason not to opt for the D2. With that said, if you ever need to hand hold your IR illuminator, than a stand-alone illuminator may be your choice. Hope this helps and Happy Thanksgiving!

Vic </div></div>

Victor,

Is there any benefit to running a CQBL-1 mounted on the rifle and a IR illuminator, like your Torch Pro mounted on a helmet (running a PVS-14)?

Thanks,

Dusty

 

[Victor-TNVC]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ron1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Vic
I am a new rookie when it comes the NV and lasers,my question is what is the best way to site in a laser?
Ron g </div></div>

Sorry, just saw this, (sorry for the delay).

The easiest way is to simply mount your PVS-14 with a fast QD mount such as our TM-14 behind a NV compatible RDS such as a EO or AP. Then simply merge the IR dot over your day dot.

Please remember, IR lasers are line of site and do not take into account ballistics and height over bore. You will have to fine tune those zero's.

Vic

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Thank you Vic for the help with laser sighting.
Ron g

 

[Victor-TNVC]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ron1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you Vic for the help with laser sighting.
Ron g </div></div>

No problem, just remember the line of sight topics. A few forget this and have some issues with the offsets. Once you get sighted in and have other questions, we're a phone call away if need be.

Vic

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Can I sight in the laser with the eotech in the daytime without the pvs?
Thanks Vic
Ron g

 

[shooter6.5]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

the CQBL-1 has two lasers. One visible and one IR and they are linked.

Simple answer-yes.

 

[TNVC - Kyle]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Ditto what Victor and hogrider posted.

I will add the following: When sighting in either one of the lasers, use your "far" zero distance. For example, if you have a 50/ 200 zero on your AR, co-witness the laser at 200. This will mean that you will have to do it under low-light conditions (to allow the laser to be visible at that range). However, it will give you a more accurate POA/ POI through the entire range from muzzle to 200. If you were to utilize the zero at 50, it would shift the POI on your longer shots. This is due to the slight difference in the relativity of your Optical Sight-to-bore position and your Laser Sight-to-bore position. If everything was emitted from the same point, it would be no issue. However, having the small amount of horizontal and vertical variance at the source (rifle), that difference will be multiplied as your distance from the source increases. While some would say this is negligible, I say that the increase in accuracy is worth the small amount of effort that is required. When we use lasers, we already give up a small amount of accuracy because of the size of the dot projection on target. Might as well work hard to get the most accurate zero we can so, we can quickly and humanely put our quarry down.

Be Safe,
Kyle

 

[TNVC - Kyle]

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It's all about convergence and crossover.

Damn!! I <span style="font-weight: bold">[/b]<span style="text-decoration: underline">[/u]knew</span></span> I schould have paid better attention in Geometry! I would probably be able to articualte this a little better.

 

[SkyPup]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TNVC_Kyle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's all about convergence and crossover.

Damn!! I <span style="font-weight: bold">[/b]<span style="text-decoration: underline">[/u]knew</span></span> I schould have paid better attention in Geometry! I would probably be able to articualte this a little better.

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I was an absolute whiz at Geometry and I mount my lasers on top of the rail inline with the bore and sight them in to cowitness with my day scope @ 200 yards, that way I am never off more than 1.5 inches from 50 feet out to 225 yards....the hogs and 'yotes never knew what hit them!!!

 

[TNVC - Kyle]

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You know I gotta make things simple for us Florida Crackers!

That little black-faced guy has some decent cutters, for a feral. Our GA boars vary from feral to razor and then, a pure mix between. We tend to see the better cutters and whetters on the ones that lean towards the razor side. It's funny to see the long and short snouts and, the curly and straight tails all running together. Some groups seem to mix and some seem to hold their affinity for one or the other bloodlines.

They all taste good.

 

[SkyPup]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

The ones we are blasting are direct decedents of the original European Spanish genetic stock from the Conquistador Hernando De Soto when he let them loose on Paynes Prairie in the 1540's, most are short snouts without big cutters (due to the ground being so swampy and porous).

My hypothesis is that as they migrated North out of the Southern swamps their snouts grew longer and their cutters longer to dig into the more resistant hardened terra firma, I call it the Yankee Porcine adaptation...big noses and big mouths!

<span style="font-weight: bold">LOL</span>

 

[dbransco]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Is there any benefit to running a CQBL-1 mounted on the rifle and a IR illuminator, like the Torch Pro mounted on a helmet (running a PVS-14)?

Thanks,

 

[TNVC - Kyle]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

hahahaha.

The adaptation makes perfect sense, as most of the locals refer to them as "Piney Woods Rooters". The longer snouts would aid in that. We also see the higher bristle-back in the longer-snouted versions. Same thing holds true as you move West into the edges of ALABAMA!! (Add Forest Gump inflection for effect)

 

[TNVC - Kyle]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dbransco</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there any benefit to running a CQBL-1 mounted on the rifle and a IR illuminator, like the Torch Pro mounted on a helmet (running a PVS-14)?

Thanks,

</div></div>

IR Illuminators are hugely beneficial in aiding the user in target identification/ discrimination. However, the Torch Pro may be a tad on the big and heavy side for helmet use. It is really intended as a weapon-mounted illuminator. Most of us, are running the Surefire M1 as a helmet light. It will get you 75 yards or less of illum. For the longer throws, guys are mounting the other, more powerful options, on the rifle.

 

[Ronn72562]

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Hi Kyle
Wow this message is way advanced stuff for a rookie shooter in lasers and night vision,I have a EO tech scope and not sure what the easiest way is to line up the EO tech and the laser together ? Should I line up the eotech on a target at 200 yds and then line up the laser to match the target?
Just need directions or a rookie shooter in NV.
Thank you
Ron g

 

[TNVC - Kyle]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ron1234</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Kyle
Wow this message is way advanced stuff for a rookie shooter in lasers and night vision,I have a EO tech scope and not sure what the easiest way is to line up the EO tech and the laser together ? Should I line up the eotech on a target at 200 yds and then line up the laser to match the target?
Just need directions or a rookie shooter in NV.
Thank you
Ron g </div></div>

You got it. See...I told you I would screw up the explanation!

 

[SkyPup]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Your line of sight through a scope or Eotech is a straight line, so is the laser.

Your 5.56mm bullet follows an apogee out of the muzzle rising up through your straight line of sight at 50 yards to about 1.5 inches above your line of sight around 100 yards and back through your line of sight at about 200-225 yards, so you will have the entire distance covered accurately.

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Thank you Kyle
I might be a little slow but catch on pretty fast,thank you for your help,I just purchased a Pvs -14 3 weeks ago and I am waiting for it to ship,next purchase should be a laser like the CQBL-1,I also purchased the torch pro from Tnvc for the illuminator .
Thanks
Ron g

 

[Ronn72562]

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Hi harper JT
Did you purchase the CQBL-1 ? Did you order the green or red invisible laser?
Do you use the pressure switch and where did you place yours if you have one.
I am really thinking about buying one for my Ar-15. Any comments on it from you??
Thanks
Ron g

 

[mavrick10_2000]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

I will tell you that the CQBL-1 I bought from TNVC works great.

The pictures on the website make it look larger than it is. This thing is uber lightweight and much smaller than I thought it would be. Small as in cut a PEQ15 in half width wise small.

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Hi maverick
Do you purchase the green or red invisible IR laser?
Ron

 

[shooter6.5]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Green visible-Red IR laser.

Search is a wonderful tool. There has been a lot written on it already.

Use the tape switch. Much easier to operate. Place it by your hand on the hand guard up front.

 

[RSR]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

The Brown truck has one on it headed my way ..... very excited for it to show up.

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

I can't wait to get one too!!! RSR did you get the green invisible laser or red?
I heard that the green is easier on the eyes to see.
Ron

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Hi hog rider
Do you have the green laser option on your LDI CQBL-1 Class1 IR Laser?
Is it a special order?are both the vis and IR both green?
Ron g

 

[shooter6.5]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

On the CQB set up my visible laser is green and the IR is red. My eyes are old and that works great for me.

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Hi hog rider
Do they make a green invisible laser ,which one is best to use with a pvs-14?
We also are almost neighbors,I live in Roanoke tx which is maybe 20 min away.
Ron

 

[shooter6.5]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Ron,

Right now and for the next 6 weekas I am about 10,000 away from you--but when I get back we will meet and I will show you some weapons combos that will make you drool.

Do not know about an IR green laser as I never wanted to go that way.

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Would love to meet a fellow night vision friend and shooter.Would also love to see your toys as I am just getting started in the game.
Ron g

 

[RSR]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

I got Green IR / Red visible. Tracking says it hits the front door Friday.

 

[mavrick10_2000]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hogrider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Green visible-Red IR laser.

Search is a wonderful tool. There has been a lot written on it already.

Use the tape switch. Much easier to operate. Place it by your hand on the hand guard up front.

</div></div>

Actually it's just the opposite. Red Visible, and everything through the nods looks green so it doesn't much matter.

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Hi to all
Just want to make sure on the CQBL-1 there is only one laser color which is red visible and IR looks green under nods,is that correct???
Ron g

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

Hi Vic
Just placed a order for the Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL,can't wait to play with it.,Are they in stock ready to ship? I ordered the FDE.
Thanks Ron g

 

[Bolts]

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I finally zeroed mine on this weekend, now I have to run around with the ir tonight to see how it does :}

 

[Ronn72562]

Re: Laser Deivces Newest Class 1 IR Laser: CQBL-1

What is the best way that you zeroed your in? I have a eotech also.
Ron