Libya

[mlw332]

This place should be nothing more than a crater by tomorrow morning

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Re: Libya

If Reagan was here it would be.

 

[mlw332]

Re: Libya

if Reagan was here Iraq and Afghan would have been about 10 years ago as well.

 

[Dagsta]

Re: Libya

Pathetic that the Embassy in Cairo issued an almost apology for offending the religion of choice in that country.

Basically an act of war was committed against the US and we are apologizing. Who would of guessed?????

 

[mlw332]

Re: Libya

Cairo embassy should have started shooting their asses as they were climbing the fence. if they want to take it over then by god they will do it as they crawl over bodies of their fallen friends. libya after we helped to liberate them this is the way they treat us.... yeah not all of them are "bad" but everyone there knew what was going on so my thoughts are all BOOOOOMMMM. a few bombers and that problem is solved

 

[MtnCreek]

Re: Libya

Has anyone heard if this was guarded by Marines? Seems like the street would be littered with [not sure if I can use that word] if it was.

 

[Guy Montag]

Re: Libya

Employing Al-Qaeda as US sub-contractor to overthrow Gadaffi was clearly a well thought out plan.

Next stop Syria.

Back to sleep America.....back to sleep.

 

[sharac]

Re: Libya

Strange allies you've chosen... You've sown now you reap..

Who would have thought that all those democracy thirsty people in Egypt and Libya could have turned so fast...

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pathetic that the Embassy in Cairo issued an almost apology for offending the religion of choice in that country.

Basically an act of war was committed against the US and we are apologizing. Who would of guessed????? </div></div>

Although I agree it was an act of war, I am tired of this stuff. Time to bring everyone home and let them kill themselves. Close our embassies in these messed up countries and bring our troops home.

 

[mlw332]

Re: Libya

Im pretty sure it was not guarded by any armed americans if so the street would have been littered with bodies.
Sharac so fast is the key word... we all knew they would eventually but damn thats kinda fast

 

[cavscout1983]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter McGavin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If Reagan was here it would be.</div></div>

Like when Beirut became a crater?

Oh, nevermind...

 

[Twisted .308]

Re: Libya

Gaurded by 2 Marines and Libyan Forces.....Libyan Gaurds rolled them over to mob

http://www.caintv.com/LibyansecurityteamhandedUSstaf-405

 

[roggom]

Re: Libya

Marine FAST team should be boots on the ground by now.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/international/africa/view.bg?articleid=1061159922&srvc=rss

 

[Krav69]

Re: Libya

Nerve gas all the sand people, every man, woman, and child, before they ruin what's left of our civilization.

 

[Veer_G]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Krav69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nerve gas all the sand people, every man, woman, and child, before they ruin what's left of our civilization.

</div></div>

Excuse me? <span style="font-style: italic">Genocide</span> is your answer?

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Re: Libya

Genocide is NOT the answer. Vermin extermination IS.

The question is, separating the Vermin from the humans. Though there is a massive difference between them, they outwardly "look" similar.

 

[AMOK!]

Re: Libya

Standby for Assaulters.

 

[Immorteq]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Krav69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nerve gas all the sand people, every man, woman, and child, before they ruin what's left of our civilization.

</div></div>

You need therapy.

 

[Mike]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Krav69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nerve gas all the sand people, every man, woman, and child, before they ruin what's left of our civilization.

</div></div>

I hate the radical extremist just as much as the next guy but your ignorance and Nazi-esque solution will not be tolerated here. Keep it civil.

Also, you may want to read a little history.

 

[kraigWY]

Re: Libya

What good will sending Marines to Lybia do. The rules of engagement would keep them from doing their job.

I fear they would just be targets.

Been down this road before.

 

[Kouki]

Re: Libya

Im just shaking my head. We knew what would happen. Unfortunately WE dont have a choice in not helping over there.

 

[Guy Montag]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Krav69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nerve gas all the sand people, every man, woman, and child, before they ruin what's left of our civilization.

</div></div>

Get on board with the mission, we're doing a helluva job destabilizing the entire region.

Just look at the Al-Qaeda flag flying proudly over the COURTHOUSE in Benghazi.

That "NATO" backed invasion of Libya is really working out splendidly, can't wait for Syria.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...g-Al-Qaeda.html

 

[168BTHPM]

Re: Libya

It is becoming increasingly difficult to be tolerant of a religion that promotes this kind of stuff through inaction.

 

[Keyser Söze]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Krav69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nerve gas all the sand people, every man, woman, and child, before they ruin what's left of our civilization.

</div></div>

Wow.

Before you typed that, did you think to yourself "what is the most braindead, moronic thing I could possibly say?"

Or does this kind of idiocy just come natural to you?

 

[Twisted .308]

Re: Libya

Someone once said ..an Eye for an Eye

but the US has become so pussified to " Offend " anyone ...it will be just swept under the rug and forgot about

 

[fargo007]

Re: Libya

Yes we have Sir.

Khobar towers, 1996 and before that the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, 1983.

In both of these cases Marines were stationed as sentries without ammo or even magazines. It would be apparent even from a great distance that they were not only unpermitted, but <span style="font-weight: bold">unable</span> to engage anyone.

Nobody can honestly tell me that this lesson has been learned. Whoever is put there will be saddled with RoE that basically says:

"Don't shoot back until they kill you."

And even then this administration will probably reward them with a posthumous court martial.

--Fargo007





<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What good will sending Marines to Lybia do. The rules of engagement would keep them from doing their job.

I fear they would just be targets.

Been down this road before. </div></div>

 

[Pok]

Re: Libya

These people cannot be helped if they will not help themselves. Just more people with their hand out looking to suck from our teet.

"We're opressed by a dictator"

Ok, hes dead now, but we're still helpless to clean up our yard, for some reason du jour. Sorry your people were killed again.

If I continue, my comments will get ugly so I will stop here.

 

[Twisted .308]

Re: Libya

One diplomat told other friends on-line.....that Libyan Police that were supposed to keep them protected ?? snapping photos of envoy and buildings just hours before the attack and suspected it was fixing to hit the fan


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/...intcmp=trending

 

[NorthernBorn]

Re: Libya

My prayers and condolences go out to the families and friends of those that were murdered in this attack. It's obvious now that this wasn't just a "Protest Gone Wild" situation and that it was planned and orchestrated.

I thought about making a thread similar to this one early this morning before PT but thought better of it because of the strong political response it would bring. It's obvious I was right.

Instead of spewing brainless messages of blind hate and calling for genocide (Which is EXACTLY what the majority of that part of the world does when they're outraged) focus on the families and friends of those that were killed in this great tragedy.

This forum has a very strict political/religious post policy and that's one of the elements that allowed it to turn into one of the biggest database of useful firearm related information on the internet.

Oh and one more thing...

NEVER Forget. NEVER Forgive.

 

[shankster..]

Re: Libya

This is the stupid POS film they killed them over?


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[UKDslayer]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 168BTHPM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is becoming increasingly difficult to be tolerant of a religion that promotes this kind of stuff through inaction.

</div></div>

This man dedicated his entire life to civil service, attempted to create some harmony in one of the most politically turbulent and corrupt countries in the world and actually improve the quality of life of Libyans. He was a US citizen, put his life on the line and paid the ultimate sacrifice. Americans need to see this disturbing image and judge this administration by its retaliation - which I fear will be too brief and perfunctory not to mention shortly followed within a few months by a visit from Hillary with a check for a couple hundred million dollars in aid.

Its about time these governments take responsibility for policing their own ("minority" groups, terrorists, delinquents, whatever you choose to call them) and failure to do so is THAT government's responsibility. They need a good military spanking they won't soon forget followed by strong economic sanctions, not rewards.

 

[Queequeg]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is the stupid POS film they killed them over?


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The whole thing is such utter horse shit! What movie? Who even heard of this?

What degree of unfathomable imbecility does one have to possess to believe that this tripe is what motivated the savages to attack two established diplomatic missions, in two countries, <span style="font-size: 26pt">ON SEPTEMBER 11TH?????</span>

And expect us to believe it...

 

[shankster..]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is the stupid POS film they killed them over?


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The whole thing is such utter horse shit! What movie? Who even heard of this?

What degree of unfathomable imbecility does one have to possess to believe that this tripe is what motivated the savages to attack two established diplomatic missions, in two countries, <span style="font-size: 26pt">ON SEPTEMBER 11TH?????</span>

And expect us to believe it... </div></div>

Yep, you hit the nail on the head. Where is the media making this connection? (crickets)

Another unprovoked, synchronized attack on our country on 9/11.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: UKDslayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 168BTHPM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is becoming increasingly difficult to be tolerant of a religion that promotes this kind of stuff through inaction.

</div></div>

This man dedicated his entire life to civil service, attempted to create some harmony in one of the most politically turbulent and corrupt countries in the world and actually improve the quality of life of Libyans. He was a US citizen, put his life on the line and paid the ultimate sacrifice. Americans need to see this disturbing image and judge this administration by its retaliation - which I fear will be too brief and perfunctory not to mention shortly followed within a few months by a visit from Hillary with a check for a couple hundred million dollars in aid. Its about time these governments take responsibility for policing their own ("minority" groups, terrorists, whatever you choose to call them) and failure to due so is THAT government's responsibility. They need a good military spanking they won't soon forget followed by strong economic sanctions, not rewards. </div></div>

+1 Billion

Remove all our Assets and Personnel, level the fucking building, cut-off all foreign aid, and let the fucking Useless Nations deal with them... Our prayers will be going out to the 4 men who died serving a greater cause...

 

[shankster..]

Re: Libya

For those that aren't disgusted and pissed:

Those bastards.

 

[shankster..]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: UKDslayer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 168BTHPM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is becoming increasingly difficult to be tolerant of a religion that promotes this kind of stuff through inaction.

</div></div>

This man dedicated his entire life to civil service, attempted to create some harmony in one of the most politically turbulent and corrupt countries in the world and actually improve the quality of life of Libyans. He was a US citizen, put his life on the line and paid the ultimate sacrifice. Americans need to see this disturbing image and judge this administration by its retaliation - which I fear will be too brief and perfunctory not to mention shortly followed within a few months by a visit from Hillary with a check for a couple hundred million dollars in aid. Its about time these governments take responsibility for policing their own ("minority" groups, terrorists, whatever you choose to call them) and failure to due so is THAT government's responsibility. They need a good military spanking they won't soon forget followed by strong economic sanctions, not rewards. </div></div>

+1 Billion

Remove all our Assets and Personnel, level the fucking building, cut-off all foreign aid, and let the fucking Useless Nations deal with them... Our prayers will be going out to the 4 men who died serving a greater cause... </div></div>

The U.S. should pull out of the U.N. and kick it out of our country. Oh wait, who pays the majority of of the U.N.'s budget? That's right, it's the U.S.

 

[EventHorizon]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Krav69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nerve gas all the sand people, every man, woman, and child, before they ruin what's left of our civilization.

</div></div>

I hate the radical extremist just as much as the next guy but your ignorance and Nazi-esque solution will not be tolerated here. Keep it civil.

Also, you may want to read a little history. </div></div>

Thank you Mike.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Libya

Some of the embassies are protected by DoD Contractors for their response teams including the Embassy in Kabul. There may have very well not been Marines there but Contractors instead which leaves me to wonder where the fuck those guys were at in all this...

 

[kraigWY]

Re: Libya

I'm not totally for completely gettting out of the UN. Pull our funds but leave some min wage clerk there to veto every stupid thing they come up with.

 

[Ol' RD]

Re: Libya

Guys, hate to say this but we had Marine Guards at the Iranian embassy in '79. They were ordered to stand down by the Ambassador. This cat probably would have given the same order and the guards would have complied the same as in '79.

 

[Polytrauma]

Re: Libya

$830,000,000.00 Dollars worth of Tomahawk cruise missles to aid Al-Queda in overthrowing Gaddafi, appears to be a shitty return on "our" investment!

Bengahazi is the hub of Al-Queda in Libya, why did Mr. Stevens reside in this consulate with only have two security personal?

Add Libya to the growing list of nations getting hammered by Predator strikes.

Yeah, we NEVER saw this coming!

1. www.vice.com/vice-news/waiting-for-al-qaeda-part-1

2. www.vice.com/vice-news/waiting-for-al-qaeda-part-2

3. www.vice.com/vice-news/waiting-for-al-qaeda-part-3

 

[fargo007]

Re: Libya

It is time to move the UN to another country.

There's definitely no advantage for it being here in the USA. Time to let it be somebody else's problem for the next 50 years. Let's permit our diplomats to get drunk and strangle whores in their country with complete, 100% immunity.

There are a lot of dirty little 'diplomatic immunity' incidents around NYC.

--Fargo007

 

[EventHorizon]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fargo007</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is time to move the UN to another country.

There's definitely no advantage for it being here in the USA. Time to let it be somebody else's problem for the next 50 years. Let's permit our diplomats to get drunk and strangle whores in their country with complete, 100% immunity.

There are a lot of dirty little 'diplomatic immunity' incidents around NYC.

--Fargo007 </div></div>

Dude, I thought you couldn't make Bohem's stag party....?!?! Besides, she was just passed out... I swear...

 

[AK10mm]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Polytrauma</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> $830,000,000.00 Dollars worth of Tomahawk cruise missles to aid Al-Queda in overthrowing Gaddafi, appears to be a shitty return on "our" investment!

Bengahazi is the hub of Al-Queda in Libya, why did Mr. Stevens reside in this consulate with only have two security personal?

Add Libya to the growing list of nations getting hammered by Predator strikes.

Yeah, we NEVER saw this coming!

1. www.vice.com/vice-news/waiting-for-al-qaeda-part-1

2. www.vice.com/vice-news/waiting-for-al-qaeda-part-2

3. www.vice.com/vice-news/waiting-for-al-qaeda-part-3</div></div>

According to the "News" outlets,there were/was a Local Libyan security detail.

As far back as Vietnam,and later Iraq and Afghanistan,the value of "Local" security has been worse than useless.Why would anybody but a complete blithering idiot think the Libyans would be any different ?

The only person an American can count on to have their back in hostile territory is another ARMED American........

 

[Guy Montag]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The U.S. should pull out of the U.N. and kick it out of our country. Oh wait, who pays the majority of of the U.N.'s budget? That's right, it's the U.S. </div></div>

And who funded, armed, trained, and coordinated these "freedom fighters" to topple Gadaffi?

Employing Al-Qaeda as a US sub-contractor has it's risks, like occasionally they'll kill your Ambassador.

Thankfully someone above my pay grade has obviously thought this whole thing through entirely.

Freedom costs a buck-o-five.

 

[malaga2]

Re: Libya

And who funded, armed, trained, and coordinated these "freedom fighters" to topple Gadaffi?

Employing Al-Qaeda as a US sub-contractor has it's risks, like occasionally they'll kill your Ambassador.

Interesting !

 

[The Mechanic]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ol' F.D.H</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys, hate to say this but we had Marine Guards at the Iranian embassy in '79. They were ordered to stand down by the Ambassador. This cat probably would have given the same order and the guards would have complied the same as in '79. </div></div>
After watching his video I have to totally agree with you.
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[Paladin4Christ]

Re: Libya

Hearing about Part 2 happening in Cairo.

In my opinion this was coordinated and planned. The video was just an excuse.

 

[mlw332]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some of the embassies are protected by DoD Contractors for their response teams including the Embassy in Kabul. There may have very well not been Marines there but Contractors instead which leaves me to wonder where the fuck those guys were at in all this...

</div></div>

I will say this I was one of those DoD contractors at the Embassy in Kabul. When shit hit the fan we were ready to roll every time and our ROE would have came into play as soon as an event like this started. And I would be lead to believe had this embassy been guarded by US contractors as several others are then those guys would have stood their ground the same as we did. So I dont see this being an issue of "where the fuck those guys were at in all this.."

 

[AK10mm]

Re: Libya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mlw332</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some of the embassies are protected by DoD Contractors for their response teams including the Embassy in Kabul. There may have very well not been Marines there but Contractors instead which leaves me to wonder where the fuck those guys were at in all this...

</div></div>

I will say this I was one of those DoD contractors at the Embassy in Kabul. When shit hit the fan we were ready to roll every time and our ROE would have came into play as soon as an event like this started. And I would be lead to believe had this embassy been guarded by US contractors as several others are then those guys would have stood their ground the same as we did. So I dont see this being an issue of "where the fuck those guys were at in all this.." </div></div>

According to the Newsies,there were no DOD Contractors,or Marines.......Instead,they were guarded by local Libyan "security"