I've got a Nomad-L in jail right now. Will report back when I shoot it.
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I've reached out to DA and will let you guys know what they say if/when they get back to me.
Regarding your second comment on muzzle vs ear, I was just reading about that last night. the bottom line I found is that suppressors really are just for the shooter's benefit, which in this case prioritizes lower pressure like you said.
Thanks for the tips. I've looked more into it, and saw a post from some time ago where a user stated an LMT rep. recommended they use an RCA adjustable gas block. I was originally opposed to modifying the gas system because I was under the impression it would be macgyvering something together; but if there are reliable ways to go about it then I consider it worth considering.
I've also heard of the idea of using over bored cans, but if anything I would probably max out at 7.62x51 and work my way down to 556, and I imagine a 338 can on a 556 may be overkill haha.
Interesting. I may experiment with some buffers regardless than. It's also funny that you mention Surefire, because I had also heard how much people like them with the LMT MWS, but when I looked them up saw they cost twice as much and crossed them off. Turns out I was looking at the titanium version instead of standard, which is much closer in price. Although the standards are out of stock everywhere, due to their much closer price point, as well as some other points like less muzzle flash vs the HXQD, it's replaced the Nomad L and is also what I'm leaning towards overall.
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I’ve been running a Sig SLX in 5.56 on a 10.5” AR for about 6 weeks now…it’s a seriously impressive suppressor. On the same host it’s noticeably quieter than their SRD suppressor and MUCH less back pressure. From the shoulder it feels like only a slight bump in bolt speed. I get no gas in my face and the remaining rounds in the magazine only have a very slight dusting of carbon…it’s barely noticeable. All these observations are very subjective but I have a fair amount of suppressor experience. It hasn’t been released yet but I think the 7.62 version would pair quite well with an MWS.
It sucks but it is what it is at this point. They only know what LMT tells them as far as projected lead times. I talked to John the other day and he said they’re all over the place. Some things come early, some are way behind. At the mercy of LMT’s production schedule and ability.
I am in the same boat. Placed an order for a MWS and MLC; won’t be pre-paying anymore either. I knew it was going to be awhile, so I’m not exceedingly upset; however, LMT exudes a certain demeanor that they really don’t give a shit. Supposedly they stopped taking orders to fulfill their backlog, but then they release a bunch of stupid length variation uppers, etc. I don’t know the inner workings of LMT, but surely these releases are minimizing manufacturing resources?
I have received everything I've ordered from V1Tactical earlier than the allocation said. I think they do the best they can, and they didn't price gouge like some of the other suppliers. There is another supplier I'll never buy from again.
That being said, I'd prefer if they charged when shipped.
That being said, I'd prefer if they charged when shipped.
I’m in the same boat! Been a year and half waiting on my MARS-L lol, thankfully it’s only a lower and not a full rifle. Hopefully soon for us!
I picked up a Mars cqb that he had in stock the other day. Lmt must have done a big run of Mars-h Lars since this are in stock at a lot of places presently.
The only thing I’m waiting on is a 18” 308 barrel I ordered in June or July with a September estimate.
The only thing I’m waiting on is a 18” 308 barrel I ordered in June or July with a September estimate.
One can not really blame facebook for waiting to place an order in until the biggest run on guns happens in the past 20 years with a smaller defense contractor that has International mil contracts to fulfill in light of the China virus limitations.
You have two options, place a order with one of the vendors, get a good deal, and hang tight. Two, you can hit up any of the Facebook groups, equipment exchanges or gun broker, pay a premium and get your stuff this week
If you are not a fan of either of those options you can simply place an order when there are less riots, pandemics and a fresh democratic politician in office.
Prior to all this bs, It took two weeks for Kac to fulfill my sr25 order. It took lmt about 2 days to send out my 6.5 barrel and full auto 308 BCG.
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Think it took around 10 months for my two mars lowers to show up from v1. One L, one H.
What did you order?
Any reason you chose the back order route vs premium to get it now from say gun broker, the EE's or FB groups?
I work overseas so backorder work great for me, but if I was back home, fuck that,
I got my LMT that I ordered from FEBRUARY 2020 on June 2nd, 2021. John from V1tactical said I was the first to receive a reference rifle from Lmt in over a year. People just need to wait.
I know there is a long wait but that is how things are currently.
I know there is a long wait but that is how things are currently.
Can't blame LMT or V1 for the current situation. To be honest, I think it's great that you can put your name on a list with V1 and wait for parts to roll in at msrp or better pricing, it sure beats the only alternative of having to actively look for in stock parts at premium prices. Sure, you don't know when your V1 parts will come in, but you know you aren't getting a bad deal and you know V1 isn't taking your money and disappearing.
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Just ordered one over the phone on Friday. I really like V1 because it seems like the only place that doesn't necessarily charge MSRP (or more
) for LMT items...*cough* Tombstone *cough*
Anyway, he mentioned that they have continued to push their allocations back because of how badly LMT keeps missing target dates. Currently they show allocations for December but he said those were originally for September. Either way, glad to order one for 15% off MSRP and V1 is always extremely helpful over the phone
I have a 10/20/20 308 BCG order with V1 that I am still waiting for. Mine was a March allocation.Just ordered one over the phone on Friday. I really like V1 because it seems like the only place that doesn't necessarily charge MSRP (or more
Anyway, he mentioned that they have continued to push their allocations back because of how badly LMT keeps missing target dates. Currently they show allocations for December but he said those were originally for September. Either way, glad to order one for 15% off MSRP and V1 is always extremely helpful over the phone
I have had money down on a Bronco for over a year (07/14/2020). Sometimes it pisses me off a little. Once in a while Ford sends me an email telling me how happy I'm going to be when I get it. I think to me self, that's not how it's supposed to work. You're supposed to deliver the vehicle, then I tell you if I'm happy with it.
Joe from LMT addressed this in an LMT Q&A video on youtube. He said LMT does not tell V1 when they are getting "allocations" and that they make that up themselves. I dont buy from V1 unless they have an item "in stock" becuase they are otherwise selling stuff they dont have, and if you cancel they charge you extra to "restock" stuff they never had to begin with.
I just found one of Jo’s posts where he explained it. At the time of order LMT gives an estimate on when it will be filled. V1 says they pad the estimate by 30-90days+ at this point because Lmt has been so erratic.
Same. Paid for an MWS allocation, actually got it a month before the estimated date. Would order from him again.
Damn, I went the Gunbroker route... got it 3 days after I purchased.
Not happy with cancel fee but a tip to avoid that is to cancel and ask for store credit, for full credit. Can always apply to in stock stuff.
Hey guys, Just a heads up but its looking like LMT is starting to get caught up in orders, and more supply is getting out there. I just picked up a Gen 2 Piston BCG from LMT Direct, A shovel nose from V1 and 12.5 Piston barrel from Titan. I was not necessarily looking for a 12.5 piston set up but everything was in stock and I figured why not,
Prices are a little higher than the last time I sourced a completed MRP upper but so is everything else.
Prices are a little higher than the last time I sourced a completed MRP upper but so is everything else.
Nice.
How does it shoot compared to DI uppers? Notice anything with the piston set to suppressed vs unsurpresssed?
Would of preferred a 12.5 specwar but I figured that LMT has really done a good job of refining their lineup to finally mess around with one of their piston setups.
I am thinking that the 12.5 Shovel nose paired with my Sandman K could replace my 10.5 MRP CQB, In theory it should be a better suppressor host and the velocity bonus is nice as well. the Mid length 14.5 MLC may now find itself with some manner of LPVO.
I dont know that I really notice much difference between DI vs piston except that piston has a really smoothed out recoil. That and it is really clean. I like them so much that I have a lot of them. I usually don't play with the settings as I want them to function, but with an OSS you don't need to dial it to suppressed gas settings. 12" is the sweet spot before getting to excessive noise and reliability issues. The new shovel nose would be nice for extended bipod radius but I didn't get mine for bench use. Throw on a razor 1-10 and you'll be very happy.
contract second upper came in today
I'm considering a Mars-H with the 20" 6.5cm. While I've read a few threads on running these suppressed, is the general consensus that they are overgassed from the factory? I'd sure hate to drop that much coin and not be able to run a can.
Consensus is pretty much everything LMT makes is overgassed. In their live chat on YT last night with Joe Hajny, he stated they're currently doing testing on reducing gas port diameters because of how prevalent cans have become.
I have an OSS in jail right now for this very reason.
Thanks guys, I'm surprised to not see an adj gas block as an option unless they believe it will no longer be reliable. With past experience on large frame ARs, I can say they are sometimes tough to get running right.
If you read around these parts, some of the reduced port size gas tubes are pretty popular for these systems. Seems like a decent option for keeping the gas levels down closer to the source, instead of only relying on a heavy buffer.
Majority of mil dudes (primary market for LMT) shouldn’t be dicking with adjustable gas blocks. Plus they (LMT) would likely have a significant increase in customer service contacts which the solution would be “adjust the gas”…
While I am pretty firm in my belief that people running the appropriate cans for their set ups would address the overwhelming majority of overgassing issues, not just in LMT but across the board, I would welcome refinements to the gas system. I will grab one of the new barrels when they come out.
The issue is people are drawn towards extremes. like the idea that they want the most reliable weapon on the planet, which often means over gassing to an certain extent, stuff from LMT and FN for example, People are also drawn towards the quietest can on the market and when these two things are combined, things get weird. Scars Crack Carriers, LMT's overrun bolts overrun the mag and have increased recoil.
I think highly efficient, great sounding cans have their place, especially for stuff like JP's and custom fun builds.
JP VMOS- this probably has been brought up before but I have missed this thread in a long time. But, has anyone used the JP VMOS in their LMT? I have a surefire sup. I am waiting on and thought about using one if they will actually work. Thanks
