Multicam vs. Marpat vs. Acu

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I was seriously considering getting some multicam, because I thought it blended well in all environments, but after looking at real pictures posted on the internet and on this site, Im not to impressed. I usally pack in and hunt along the Red River, so the terrain is woodland with alot of open areas of scrub timber and tall dead native grasses. I looked at the marpat and the standard issue army camo, the ACU?, I guess. I dont want the standard hunting stuff like real tree and mossyoak, so I can add packs,other eguipment and it all blend. Let me know what yall think and point me in the right direction.
Thanks, Raider

What about the Marpat? It looks like it works pretty good but have never seen it in person.
thanks
 
#7
Re: Multicam vs. Marpat vs. Acu

Don't give up on good old woodland. Maybe I come from cold-war thinking, but that pattern worked for many years and continues to work in my AO. Just because it's new doesn't make it better.
 
#9
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Marpat or Multi-Cam works. ACU doesn't work if there are any trees around.

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#10
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thanks for the info , I will probably pick up a set of tru spec multicam and the marpat pattern and actually go out and try them myself, Where can I get the GI issue Marpat or something of the same quality?
 
#11
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And I like Flecktarn. Plenty of German Army surplus camo that can be had for a good price. Flecktarn is great in woodland evironments.

There is also a desert Flecktarn pattern as well.

I just scored a brand new Flecktarn Parka for $29.95 on Flea-bay.

See or maybe not.....:

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Multi-cam is excellent as well, but new is pricey and I'm cheap.

Bob

 
#14
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DaveV</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't give up on good old woodland. </div></div>

Woodland does still work, just not is as wide a variety of AO's. I believe I commented in another thread that the reason I like Multicam so much is that it is very close to the color of faded woodland BDU's. Fresh woodland is usually too dark especially with the patches of black in it.
 
#15
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acu seems great in urban environments and if you are around rock/stone... it blends perfectly.

GI marpat.... best place to check is ebay. or keep checking the for sale section on this board and other gun boards for marines selling of their gear.
 
#17
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here you go I have been testing camo for a long time now.
Here are some of my tests. As far as ACU it's very effective when you get some of the local dirt on it.
Here is what I have come up with

Marpat/multicam for woodland
Marpat/desert for desert
UCP Multicam/ACU
Multicam works best in nature and fails Urban
ACU works ok in nature and great in Urban.

So figure out where you are going to be


http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=222513

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=233153

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=233153

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=180914

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=169830
 
#18
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There is a pattern called ASAT which works well in a variety of areas. Bowhunters love it because it flat out breaks up the human outline. If you get behind even a small amount of cover you'll disappear with it and there won't be any discernible silhouette like with other patterns. They make a 3D Leafy "ghillie" suit that just pulls over your standard clothes. You can be wearing bright orange and it will cover it up completely and allow you to blend in. The entire suit compresses down to the size of a football and weighs about 1-2 lbs. so it can be crammed into a backpack easily and taken out only when needed for hunting.

http://www.asatcamo.com
http://www.asatcamo.com/2_2_testphotos.htm
http://astacamo.stores.yahoo.net/vanishpro-leafy-3d-sui.html

Of course the best camo of all for hunting is to move as little as possible and keep the wind at your face.
 
#19
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Marpat gets my vote. Still have my issued, and I really realized a huge difference when using NVGs. Multi vs NVGs you could see every outline and NVGs can't see Marpat.

Good luck,
Merritt
SGT USMC vet.
 
#20
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I bet you will see a difference between issued marpat and commercial marpat under NV. The fabric/dyes/coatings can make a huge difference when viewed under NVGs regardless of pattern. Also starching or washing in soap with color brighteners will also degrade the effectiveness when viewed by NVGs. Most available multicam is untreated poly/cotton, not mil-spec treated NYCO.
 
#21
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ACU rocks in the sagebrush. But like said above, it is not a forest color. But MARPAT has a lot of black in it, which makes it stand out in some environments.
 
#22
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If it influences things at all, I understand that the Army is switching to Multicam in Afghanistan.
And if you do a search on here, & or online you can find a lot of tests, G.I. sponsored & non. IE, especially those conducted several years back which were used to aid in determining the new patterns for the USMC & the Army. Not that such "tests" always pick what's truly best, but, there's still a good bit of info in the AAR's on them.
 
#23
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I understand you don't want traditional hunting camo, but the reason you stated was that you want to add packs and other equipment and still blend. You will likely have MORE choices in packs, gear, and hunting related equipment available in those traditional hunting patterns.
Also: Military Camo is made to conceal from human observation. Deer for example are essentially color blind, hence "Blaze Orange". It is likely they couldn't tell the difference between ACU and Marpat. It's all about pattern and a lack of IR visibility. See ASAT or Optifade camo which are arguably the best hunting patterns around based on the latest data.

Is Realtree, Mossy oak, ASAT, Optifade ect. tacticool? No. Will there be a matching drag-bag or LBV or helmet cover... No, but you need hunting gear that matches. But it was designed to hide you from ANIMALS. If you Really want a versitle Military Camo, my vote is multicam.
 
#26
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what a lot of people do not understand about UCP/ACU is that it works with light, if you are in shadow or the sun is behind you it works as woodland camo. When the sun hit's it straight on it turns into an Urban/light desert camo. This is why it appears to be glowing in the picture above.
here is what it looks like in woodland canopy.

Flecktarn on left UCP/ACU on the right

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Here is open field

ACU left Marpat woodland right

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also when it's dirty it blends where ever you are at

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here is a picture of clean ACU on left Dirty ACU middle and Multicam

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overall ACU is made for Urban first Night vision second

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