Same. I ignored the attestation and flew in right under the radar. I was prepping the resume and looking around, but things were pretty dark for a second.
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Well, I kind of exaggerated my lack of conformity. When my wife caught the rona I was working on base with about 200 people, mostly TDY to the base I work at, so my boss told me I needed to get tested, to make sure I hadn't infected the lab and all the people that flew in for the systems testing...I was Negative, so no harm to to infecting the lab...but I had to quarantine at home for two weeks anyway...damn the bad luck.Same.
Zero testing or even a statement confirming my status. …because my health status/record is none of their business.
I haven't complied with anything other than wearing a mask inside work facilities on base. The only thing the stupid ass mask does if fog up my glasses.
What ever happened to the asymptomatic? Aren't they immune to the Chinese flu? If the so-called vaxxed can get it and spread it how are they any different than the asymptomatic? Except that the asymptomatic don't have any of the risks from the jab nor does the Chinese flu have any effect on them.My co-worker that went to India and got a vaccine approved by the WHO has been returned to full duty.
Dont know what he intends to do if they mandate boosters.
The WHO has been using language that they may recognize natural immunity.
I would argue that would be an acceptable condition to avoid the vaccine than.
Good luck!Just got notified of my third investigation....leading to my Third Trial Board.
I'll have to spend my weekend writing up my bile to be directed at them.
Give them Hell. You are influencing a real bad situation. You seem a good man and I wish you the best. Just sayin'.Just got notified of my third investigation....leading to my Third Trial Board.
I'll have to spend my weekend writing up my bile to be directed at them.
Be sure to dot your "i's", cross your "t's" and spell check..... May be a few years down the line when you have to produce evidence... You know the drill... The future is unknown.Just got notified of my third investigation....leading to my Third Trial Board.
I'll have to spend my weekend writing up my bile to be directed at them.
I’m wishing the best for you!Just got notified of my third investigation....leading to my Third Trial Board.
I'll have to spend my weekend writing up my bile to be directed at them.
I’m wishing the best for you!
Honestly, you should just submit dick pics to the board.
The Det Lt that "investigates" me must have a hearing issue that lead to a speech impediment.
In other circumstances I would be sympathetic to her.
Now I try to use words like "vaccination" as much as possible because if I close my eyes as she reads my shit I visualize Daffy Duck.
3/4 would be fedsImagine the room if just 50% of the folks in just the pit met up for a weekend.
My scale of Snake Oil content is normally equated to the length of the message... Quite lengthy.Wife is dealing with the VA’s bullshit… she absolutely refuses to take the Death Jab.
From: US Department of Veterans Affairs <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 12:16 PM
To: VA All Mailboxes <[email protected]>
Subject: MESSAGE FROM THE SECRETARY: Update on the COVID-19 Vaccine Requirement for Federal Employees
MESSAGE FROM THE SECRETARY
Update on the COVID-19 Vaccine Requirement for Federal Employees
Colleagues,
Many of you have seen that on Friday, a court issued a nationwide injunction on the President’s executive order 14043, requiring that all Federal employees get the COVID-19 vaccine. While this injunction does pause the President’s executive order, it does not affect my order requiring all Veterans Health Administration (VHA) health care personnel to be vaccinated.
So, what does this mean for you?
· Impact on the vaccine requirement for VHA health care personnel: The injunction does not impact the Department of Veterans Affairs’ (VA) authority to require VA health care personnel to be vaccinated. We will, therefore, continue to enforce the vaccine requirement for those employees—such as psychologists, pharmacists, social workers, nursing assistants, physical therapists, respiratory therapists, peer specialists, medical support assistants, engineers, housekeepers and other clinical, administrative and infrastructure support employees. This requirement also includes VA volunteers in similar roles. Effectively, this means that any VHA employee or volunteer who works in VHA facilities, visits VHA facilities, or provides direct care to those we serve is still required to be fully vaccinated or have an approved exception and comply with workplace safety protocols. Exceptions related to a medical condition or a religious belief will be processed as a request for reasonable accommodation to the vaccination requirement.
· Impact on the vaccine requirement for non-VHA health care personnel: For VA employees who are not VHA health care personnel, VA will pause on implementing and enforcing Executive Order 14043. This means that we will hold on processing vaccine exception requests, implementing discipline for noncompliance with the vaccine requirement and requiring job applicants for roles other than VHA health care positions to be fully vaccinated.
· Impact on other safety protocols: This injunction has no impact on other safety protocols, meaning that masking, physical distancing, testing, travel and quarantine requirements are still in effect.
As I have said throughout the pandemic, ensuring the health and safety of our workforce and the Veterans we serve is my highest priority. The best way to protect you, your families, your colleagues and Veterans from all variants of COVID-19—including Omicron—is to get the vaccine and any recommended additional doses and booster shots, which provide strong protection against infection, hospitalization and death. As always, you can get the vaccine or the booster free of charge at any of our facilities at any time. And if you have any outstanding questions about the vaccine, you can find more information about its safety and effectiveness in these FAQs, or view these clinician and Veteran videos.
Finally, I want to acknowledge how difficult this pandemic—now having lasted more than 22 months—has been for you, our world-class workforce, and your families. We have lost thousands of Veterans, hundreds of colleagues and untold numbers of loved ones to this terrible disease. And yet, even in the worst of circumstances, you have never wavered. You have saved and bettered the lives of countless Veterans. You have been the backbone of America’s health care system. And you have led the way on vaccinations, charting a course for the entire country to follow.
Simply put, the country would not have made the progress it has made without you and your hard work. I am—and the country is—forever in your debt.
We will keep you updated on the vaccine requirements and the injunction moving forward. Thank you for all you do.
Denis McDonough
PLEASE PRODUCE LOCALLY FOR ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT ROUTINELY ACCESS EMAIL DUE TO THEIR SPECIALTIES.
Tell me you're a piece of shit, without telling me you're a piece of shit.From: US Department of Veterans Affairs <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 12:16 PM
To: VA All Mailboxes <[email protected]>
Subject: MESSAGE FROM THE SECRETARY: Update on the COVID-19 Vaccine Requirement for Federal Employees
MESSAGE FROM THE SECRETARY
Update on the COVID-19 Vaccine Requirement for Federal Employees
Colleagues,
Many of you have seen that on Friday, a court issued a nationwide injunction on the President’s executive order 14043, requiring that all Federal employees get the COVID-19 vaccine. While this injunction does pause the President’s executive order, it does not affect my order requiring all Veterans Health Administration (VHA) health care personnel to be vaccinated.
I could make a list of other things the GOP should do, if they win the congress next year![]()
Trump said if the GOP wins Congress it should pass a law to rehire military service members discharged for refusing COVID-19 vaccine
The Pentagon said 98% of active-duty troops are vaccinated, but some who aren't have already been discharged.www.businessinsider.com
I could make a list of other things the GOP should do, if they win the congress next year
. . . the same list could be used to identify the things they will NOT do.
To your last sentence.
It's going to be interesting to see how relationships are changed after this. Some will forget and call it water under the bridge.
Others will not forget WHO those gutless fucks are. Will those same gutless fucks show up after the lights go out looking to still be accepted?
It's also interesting to see who stopped texting, calling, wanting to come over and shoot or whatever after I walked out.
I don't have the same paradigm as you, no retirement loss, but at this point, I doubt I could refrain from calling them out IF I was magically brought back in and still working with them.
I have such a distaste for these people I don't want to breathe the same air as them. But it's a completely different situation than you and that can change the context greatly.
Hopefully it works out for you and you get to finish out the 3 years you need and take that retirement that you deserve.
Guess you'll be getting less Christmas cards this year?
What ever happened to the asymptomatic? Aren't they immune to the Chinese flu? If the so-called vaxxed can get it and spread it how are they any different than the asymptomatic? Except that the asymptomatic don't have any of the risks from the jab nor does the Chinese flu have any effect on them.
I've cut off coms with 2 people and quite frankly it wasn't a stretch I had barely been around them anyway. One has reached out trying to reconcile and I very nicely and w/o profanity told them to please not ever contact me again. I get if I really do....for people who want to be petrified and like manufactured drama in their lives this is a GREAT thing and I'm thrilled for them to have something to latch on to. The fact that I don't want to share their same level of perpetual panic is apparently equal to that of being a murderer. People who have their jobs threatened.....that is the real deal. By manufactured I mean vax happy people who insist that I get it to make them feel better. These are people who are still staying home as much as possible, wearing masks in the car alone and basically withdrawing from life.Gutless fucks outnumber the others by >200 to 1.
I need to send two responses to my work today regards my next trial.
I lost sleep last night composing in my head what I want to say to one.
Some of the shit I am writing there is no way things could be the same.
The discomfort will be for them to feel though....not me.....they have been shown and they know they failed the biggest test of their lives.
It would be only fitting they die on the 4th of July choking on Patriotism.
Knock it out of the park.Gutless fucks outnumber the others by >200 to 1.
I need to send two responses to my work today regards my next trial.
I lost sleep last night composing in my head what I want to say to one.
Some of the shit I am writing there is no way things could be the same.
The discomfort will be for them to feel though....not me.....they have been shown and they know they failed the biggest test of their lives.
It would be only fitting they die on the 4th of July choking on Patriotism.
Natural immunity should also include people exposed to the virus, that didn't get the virus. When my wife had it, none of us quarantined away from her, we live in the same house, breathing the same air, none of us wore a mask...so they can fuck off with all of it.
I've been around a lot of people that had it. I was around them mask-less at the time they were supposedly very contagious. Yet I never got it. I got tested for the anti-bodies a few months ago and it was negative.
I'm not saying that I won't get it. I'm also not saying that if I do get it that I won't die from it.
When looking at the un-skewed and un-tampered statistics, I'd say my chances are better surviving Covid than surviving the shot. The cure is worse than the disease.
Your observation opens the door to some of my thoughts.... Through out history, back to the Garden of Eden, there has been plagues, sickness, leprocy, etc.... During the worst of the worst of times there were no sanitary provisions, no scientist, no billion dollar labs or year long studies.... Yet, some humans were exposed repeatedly and came through the worst of it and civilization continued to grow. Why no study on that ? Probably no $$$ in a healthy world population.I've been around a lot of people that had it. I was around them mask-less at the time they were supposedly very contagious. Yet I never got it. I got tested for the anti-bodies a few months ago and it was negative.
I'm not saying that I won't get it. I'm also not saying that if I do get it that I won't die from it.
When looking at the un-skewed and un-tampered statistics, I'd say my chances are better surviving Covid than surviving the shot. The cure is worse than the disease.
Your observation opens the door to some of my thoughts.... Through out history, back to the Garden of Eden, there has been plagues, sickness, leprocy, etc.... During the worst of the worst of times there were no sanitary provisions, no scientist, no billion dollar labs or year long studies.... Yet, some humans were exposed repeatedly and came through the worst of it and civilization continued to grow. Why no study on that ? Probably no $$$ in a healthy world population.
@DarnYankeeUSMC, I completely agree. We think our job is important...it is, to us. To who ever we work for, not so much, they have a job announcement ready and waiting to be published when we're gone.
I remembers the porta potty pumpers coming to the job sight's at lunch time... You could smell that pump truck 200 yards away.... Watched many a pumper swirling that suction pipe around with one hand and eating a ham sandwich with the other hand.... Never saw him miss a day of work.........I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you can eat a ham & cheese sandwich after field dressing a deer then you don't worry about Covid.
Yep. There are multiple reasons why sunshine is an awesome disinfectant.I remembers the porta potty pumpers coming to the job sight's at lunch time... You could smell that pump truck 200 yards away.... Watched many a pumper swirling that suction pipe around with one hand and eating a ham sandwich with the other hand.... Never saw him miss a day of work.........
On the other hand, we worked in the clean rooms of the high tech world... Every new hire that spent time in the clean rooms (1000 times cleaner than an operating room) would come down with the respiratory crud..... State of the art HEPA filters but not bringing in any outside air, only recirculating air. We learned long ago that a HEPA filter does not filter out a virus.
No, I did not fact check........
Read my earlier statement at my second trial board above...stated that fact plainly.What happened when Chesty Puller left the Marine Corps?
What happened when Carlos Hathcock left? Frank Galli? You? Me? Or anyone else?
Not a damned thing! It went on an never missed a beat. Those people that you served with told stories about when you were there but that faded as time marched on. There maybe a couple people that you served with that keep in touch around the holidays but for the most part meh!
These companies/local sheriff/police department/state troopers/ industries or whatever will carry on just the same. YOU are not that important. You are just a cog in the wheel that will be replaced.
@pmclaine I sincerely hope you get your job back for your financial security. But I hope you realize that they have closed the books and circled the wagons. The are using the system to cover their ass and there's not a damned thing to be done about it. You are not one of them and they don't want you.
The system doesn't have feelings. Do you think that there's a single one of them that have lost a wink of sleep over you or your family?
I really do hope you get to return but if you do. You better cover your six and trust no one! Ever! They will stab you in the back, hang you out, walk over your dead body to get ahead.
Read my earlier statement at my second trial board above...stated that fact plainly.
Had to send a "Receipt" to a Major today acknowledging I received "officially" the findings of my last Trial Board....
Figured I would throw in a shot....
Hi Major,
I hope you made it through the big storm okay. I hope someone else did the shoveling and saved your back. Personally, I am tired of winters in New England.
Our regular communications should be coming to an end mid-February when I am Dishonorably Discharged.
I can’t help but notice what has been happening to Colonel *****’s signature? It used to be large and legible, now getting smaller by the document.
It pains me to think his heart isn’t in his work.
If I am having my family’s future destroyed I want it done by someone wildly enthusiastic about it.
He should be signing his name like John Hancock, proud of his primary role in American history. He is ending the “unvaccinated problem” as we are referred to in emails. As scheduled by Lt Colonel *******, *** ****, **** ******, ***** *****, *** ****, I and others will all have our lives altered and be out of the State Police by March 1. *** ***** is already gone so that’s a good thing, right? **** ***** pulled a fast one on the job but you still might take him down when boosters 4, 5, or 6, get mandated.
These are heady historical times for the State Police. I recognize the importance of it.
Every document I have signed I used a 1928 Parker Duo-Fold “Big Red” fountain pen. It’s the same pen MacArthur used to sign the instrument of Japanese surrender on the USS Missouri. That is the American history I want to channel and represent.
Everyone on the State Police opposite me should be equally proud of their position in this precedent setting process. Just think, you are getting rid of the old American ideas of individual liberty and establishing a precedent for our kids to live under where they can be denied restaurant service, education, a career and even medical care if they don’t do what government says.
Revolutionary times, the State Police should be proud of its role in following orders. Sign your names clearly and with enthusiasm so history will credit each personally for supporting this.
Respectfully,
Read my earlier statement at my second trial board above...stated that fact plainly.
Had to send a "Receipt" to a Major today acknowledging I received "officially" the findings of my last Trial Board....
Figured I would throw in a shot....
Hi Major,
I hope you made it through the big storm okay. I hope someone else did the shoveling and saved your back. Personally, I am tired of winters in New England.
Our regular communications should be coming to an end mid-February when I am Dishonorably Discharged.
I can’t help but notice what has been happening to Colonel *****’s signature? It used to be large and legible, now getting smaller by the document.
It pains me to think his heart isn’t in his work.
If I am having my family’s future destroyed I want it done by someone wildly enthusiastic about it.
He should be signing his name like John Hancock, proud of his primary role in American history. He is ending the “unvaccinated problem” as we are referred to in emails. As scheduled by Lt Colonel *******, *** ****, **** ******, ***** *****, *** ****, I and others will all have our lives altered and be out of the State Police by March 1. *** ***** is already gone so that’s a good thing, right? **** ***** pulled a fast one on the job but you still might take him down when boosters 4, 5, or 6, get mandated.
These are heady historical times for the State Police. I recognize the importance of it.
Every document I have signed I used a 1928 Parker Duo-Fold “Big Red” fountain pen. It’s the same pen MacArthur used to sign the instrument of Japanese surrender on the USS Missouri. That is the American history I want to channel and represent.
Everyone on the State Police opposite me should be equally proud of their position in this precedent setting process. Just think, you are getting rid of the old American ideas of individual liberty and establishing a precedent for our kids to live under where they can be denied restaurant service, education, a career and even medical care if they don’t do what government says.
Revolutionary times, the State Police should be proud of its role in following orders. Sign your names clearly and with enthusiasm so history will credit each personally for supporting this.
Respectfully,
Why? Why the eloquent back handed name calling?
You have been found guilty and there's not a chance in hell of you getting your job back.
I got the letter.
What I learned from it is that for 17 years you were very good at covering your character flaws. You are a POS, backstabbing cunt that can't be trusted when things get tough. If that's what it takes to "conform" to belong to the HP. Good riddance.
See you at the next predetermined hearing.
It's against my nature to be insubordinate.
I would rather sting them with something they have to think about and realize what I am saying than just turn them off with a blunt direct attack.
I have said all those things you said....I just said it so they actually listened and will dwell on it.
He is going to read this...hand it to the guy next desk over and ask "Did he just call me a Nazi?"
This way I get two jerks to read it.
There will be a time to call a spade a spade.
These people called you a "problem". The only thing that they are doing is covering their ass in a legal manner. They couldn't give two shits what you have to say. Like I said. You are no longer one of them.I have said all those things you said....I just said it so they actually listened and will dwell on it.
He is going to read this...hand it to the guy next desk over and ask "Did he just call me a Nazi?"
This way I get two jerks to read it.
Great job.Read my earlier statement at my second trial board above...stated that fact plainly.
Had to send a "Receipt" to a Major today acknowledging I received "officially" the findings of my last Trial Board....
Figured I would throw in a shot....
Hi Major,
I hope you made it through the big storm okay. I hope someone else did the shoveling and saved your back. Personally, I am tired of winters in New England.
Our regular communications should be coming to an end mid-February when I am Dishonorably Discharged.
I can’t help but notice what has been happening to Colonel *****’s signature? It used to be large and legible, now getting smaller by the document.
It pains me to think his heart isn’t in his work.
If I am having my family’s future destroyed I want it done by someone wildly enthusiastic about it.
He should be signing his name like John Hancock, proud of his primary role in American history. He is ending the “unvaccinated problem” as we are referred to in emails. As scheduled by Lt Colonel *******, *** ****, **** ******, ***** *****, *** ****, I and others will all have our lives altered and be out of the State Police by March 1. *** ***** is already gone so that’s a good thing, right? **** ***** pulled a fast one on the job but you still might take him down when boosters 4, 5, or 6, get mandated.
These are heady historical times for the State Police. I recognize the importance of it.
Every document I have signed I used a 1928 Parker Duo-Fold “Big Red” fountain pen. It’s the same pen MacArthur used to sign the instrument of Japanese surrender on the USS Missouri. That is the American history I want to channel and represent.
Everyone on the State Police opposite me should be equally proud of their position in this precedent setting process. Just think, you are getting rid of the old American ideas of individual liberty and establishing a precedent for our kids to live under where they can be denied restaurant service, education, a career and even medical care if they don’t do what government says.
Revolutionary times, the State Police should be proud of its role in following orders. Sign your names clearly and with enthusiasm so history will credit each personally for supporting this.
Respectfully,
It's against my nature to be insubordinate.
I would rather sting them with something they have to think about and realize what I am saying than just turn them off with a blunt direct attack.
I have said all those things you said....I just said it so they actually listened and will dwell on it.
He is going to read this...hand it to the guy next desk over and ask "Did he just call me a Nazi?"
This way I get two jerks to read it.
There will be a time to call a spade a spade.