Rifle Scopes New Meopta Scope - Optika6
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Hello
What did Meopta tell you, that repair is covered by the lifetime warranty?
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Shannon, you have my contact info, when you are ready to send it in, let me know and I will help you out. Bart
Hi
Would it be possible for you to share with us a photograph of the breakdown?
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PARALLAX ERROR.
Playing with my new Optika6 last night (while waiting for my rifle to arrive), I was practicing eliminating the parallax error on a target at 755 yards (690m), set the dial slightly above the 500 mark, but the error did not disappear, it increased to infinity and the error persisted, then I started to decrease and the error disappeared under the 500 mark.
Someone with the same experience? Could it be a printing error in the position of the marks on the dial?
With parallax error.................................................................Without parallax error
Regards.
Playing with my new Optika6 last night (while waiting for my rifle to arrive), I was practicing eliminating the parallax error on a target at 755 yards (690m), set the dial slightly above the 500 mark, but the error did not disappear, it increased to infinity and the error persisted, then I started to decrease and the error disappeared under the 500 mark.
Someone with the same experience? Could it be a printing error in the position of the marks on the dial?
With parallax error.................................................................Without parallax error
Regards.
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This is not unusual and in fact may be more common than the situation wherein parallax numbers on the dial exactly match the distance that you are shooting. This is across all scopes and brands, in general and is a combination of things. One important factor that affects parallax settings is where you have the diopter set for your eyes and vision.PARALLAX ERROR.
Playing with my new Optika6 last night (while waiting for my rifle to arrive), I was practicing eliminating the parallax error on a target at 755 yards (690m), set the dial slightly above the 500 mark, but the error did not disappear, it increased to infinity and the error persisted, then I started to decrease and the error disappeared under the 500 mark.
Someone with the same experience? Could it be a printing error in the position of the marks on the dial?
With parallax error Without parallax error
Regards.
It does vary somewhat between brands and models of scope, but it is not something that should matter much, in my opinion. I do not look at where the numbers are on my focus dial. I pay attention to the sight picture while on the scope.
Hi
I appreciate your answer clarifies some doubts.
In my case the diopter setting is at zero (I have no vision problems).
I use the dial marks as a first reference, but I never believed that the correct setting was so wrong from those references.
Regards.
It’s not necessary wrong. You have a graduation line at 500 then the next is infinity. You also don’t have it mounted on a rifle so your eye relative to the scope isn’t consistent.
Some manufacturers don’t even put numbers on the dial, rather a graphic indicating from close to far.
Fear not, put it on the rifle when it shows up and tune parallax for target clarity. Ignore the numbers.
Some manufacturers don’t even put numbers on the dial, rather a graphic indicating from close to far.
Fear not, put it on the rifle when it shows up and tune parallax for target clarity. Ignore the numbers.
Hello
I understand you.
Maybe my mistake is having too high expectations with the Meopta build details for this model.
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Now don’t go running off with buyers remorse.
Respectfully, your kinda not wanting to see what we’re telling you. Just wait until it’s all together.
I’ll give you this. You claim to have perfect eyesight, that’s nice I do not. If you set the parallax at a given range to look perfect for you, and I then got on that rifle looking at the same target, I may have to change parallax to suit me.
My head position, the eye relief, etc will be different. We’re not all built the same.
Many lower power scopes have no parallax adjustment at all. They’re “fixed” at a predetermined point.
I’m not defending your optic, I do not have a Meopta scope. Again, respectfully you not far enough into this to make a true determination, and frankly it’s irrelevant.
Those numbers are a guide, not an absolute. They cannot be an absolute because of the other variables that exist.
Respectfully, your kinda not wanting to see what we’re telling you. Just wait until it’s all together.
I’ll give you this. You claim to have perfect eyesight, that’s nice I do not. If you set the parallax at a given range to look perfect for you, and I then got on that rifle looking at the same target, I may have to change parallax to suit me.
My head position, the eye relief, etc will be different. We’re not all built the same.
Many lower power scopes have no parallax adjustment at all. They’re “fixed” at a predetermined point.
I’m not defending your optic, I do not have a Meopta scope. Again, respectfully you not far enough into this to make a true determination, and frankly it’s irrelevant.
Those numbers are a guide, not an absolute. They cannot be an absolute because of the other variables that exist.
Which model of Optika6 and reticle is this?PARALLAX ERROR.
Playing with my new Optika6 last night (while waiting for my rifle to arrive), I was practicing eliminating the parallax error on a target at 755 yards (690m), set the dial slightly above the 500 mark, but the error did not disappear, it increased to infinity and the error persisted, then I started to decrease and the error disappeared under the 500 mark.
Someone with the same experience? Could it be a printing error in the position of the marks on the dial?
With parallax error.................................................................Without parallax error
Regards.
I got out to 1200yrd for a comp and was using the Optika6. Conditions left to right wind gusting from 7-10mph temp about 21deg Celsius. The target was an ICFRA 1000yd target face.
The full power 30x zoom wasn’t overly useful in most instances with very thick mirage. The scope didn’t cut through it too well at those mags and distances. I ran most of the weekend at about 14-17x zoom and the sight picture was very good to excellent. Parallax was set to just above 500m, I didn’t max it out. There was a lot of fine dust around and the scope didn’t miss a beat. Most of the time my windage was at 1.5-1.7mil left with slight hold off.
Overall, the scope was fantastic. Very happy with it. I was competing F-open so against custom action 7SAUMs on 25lb-30lb rifles with monster seb rests... versus my factory Howa action with a medium Palma barrel, in a KRG bravo chassis sitting on a Harris Bipod and SOE rear squeeze bag
came last... but had a blast.
The full power 30x zoom wasn’t overly useful in most instances with very thick mirage. The scope didn’t cut through it too well at those mags and distances. I ran most of the weekend at about 14-17x zoom and the sight picture was very good to excellent. Parallax was set to just above 500m, I didn’t max it out. There was a lot of fine dust around and the scope didn’t miss a beat. Most of the time my windage was at 1.5-1.7mil left with slight hold off.
Overall, the scope was fantastic. Very happy with it. I was competing F-open so against custom action 7SAUMs on 25lb-30lb rifles with monster seb rests... versus my factory Howa action with a medium Palma barrel, in a KRG bravo chassis sitting on a Harris Bipod and SOE rear squeeze bag
came last... but had a blast.What do you think guys of this 5-30x56 scope with MRAD reticle vs The Delta Javelin?
I am to choose between this and the new Delta Javelin 4.5-30x56 scope.
Which would you choose? Mainly all-range stationary target shooting. Little hunting, very little nighttime.
According to the reviews, Meopta has better turret feel, supposedly european made, and the turret slop seems to be remedied as per the users.
The Javelin also seems to have nice glass, Ares ETR similarities, but very stiff easily skipped clicks, the turrets may not have the slop (although no expert tested it yet), but Chinese made. I am not concerned about it, but still I'd prefer to support the european industry.
Thanks,
siletto
I am to choose between this and the new Delta Javelin 4.5-30x56 scope.
Which would you choose? Mainly all-range stationary target shooting. Little hunting, very little nighttime.
According to the reviews, Meopta has better turret feel, supposedly european made, and the turret slop seems to be remedied as per the users.
The Javelin also seems to have nice glass, Ares ETR similarities, but very stiff easily skipped clicks, the turrets may not have the slop (although no expert tested it yet), but Chinese made. I am not concerned about it, but still I'd prefer to support the european industry.
Thanks,
siletto
Thanks for reply.
I decided to give their 3-18x56 Mrad 1 version a try and ordered one today. I don’t need that to be daylight bright since it’s going on a AR DMR type build. . I am still in the market for a LPVO and will probably go with a Trijicon 1-6.
The 3-18 looks good on paper for the price
I decided to give their 3-18x56 Mrad 1 version a try and ordered one today. I don’t need that to be daylight bright since it’s going on a AR DMR type build. . I am still in the market for a LPVO and will probably go with a Trijicon 1-6.
The 3-18 looks good on paper for the price
I had the same hang up on 18x vs 27x but it’s going on a 16in Larue Match Upper and will be shot often at 300m and occasionally 600+ . I didn’t want to go much longer since it will be suppressed. I have only gotten to play with the scope outside for a min so it’s not fair to give an detailed opinion yet. I do live up on a hill and just a tic past a mile is a road sign I can zoom in on. Just doing that it seems to have very good resolution. As soon as my mount gets here I will be able to get some range time. I do with there was a option for a exposed windage dial vs capped. That’s really my only gripe, but for the price and my intended use I’m good.
I have been working with, not for, Meopta for 3 years now and they are making changes that you all have asked about. As for the Optika6 1-6x24 being daylight bright, it isn't red dot bright but on cloudy days I can easily see the dot on cardboard targets when competing in carbine matches. My son liked mine so much he now has the same scope on his rifle. I have the 3-18's on a few AR's and 1 bolt action .308 Win. and I have zero complaints. I have a 4.5-27x50 on a 6.5 CM AR and love it. It is responsible for 6 swine and 4 coyotes demise. Will get a chance to really stretch out the Creedmoor this Spring. Remember that Meopta is a big supporter of LE/Mil/First Responders too. Reach out to me with any questions and I'll do what I can to get you answers.
Hi all,
Did we ever come to a definitive answer to where these are actually made?
The fact the the scope does not seem to have a 'Made In' sticker anywhere on it and the price makes me wonder. I also remember reading somewhere that someone emailed Meopta about it and the reply was they were made in asia which could be any number of countries.
Did we ever come to a definitive answer to where these are actually made?
The fact the the scope does not seem to have a 'Made In' sticker anywhere on it and the price makes me wonder. I also remember reading somewhere that someone emailed Meopta about it and the reply was they were made in asia which could be any number of countries.
Where are Meopta Riflescopes Made? - Optics Trade Blog
Based in the Czech Republic, Meopta® Optika is among the largest rifle scope manufacturers operating in Europe.
www.optics-trade.eu
Meopta Sports Optics - European premium optics
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That's good to know thanks.Where are Meopta Riflescopes Made? - Optics Trade Blog
Based in the Czech Republic, Meopta® Optika is among the largest rifle scope manufacturers operating in Europe.
Meopta Sports Optics - European premium optics
Seems to tick a lot of boxes. Plus it is even available at a reasonable price down here in Australia.
I’ve been able to use mine for about a dozen range sessions. I know that’s not a lot by SH standards.
My bottom line opinion is I just don’t think your getting a better scope for the price point. I know there’s a possibility there could be something Chinese related in just about any scope, but I will not buy one labeled made in China. I know there are some popular scopes from there that may compete so I just want to be clear I’m excluded them.
My only complaint with my Optika would be with the turrets. The scope tracks and the turrets certainly have a positive detent but they have quite a bit of sloppy free play between the clicks.
At the price point it’s a non issue for me as that is a OCD issue.
I encourage you to try one out if you haven’t already done so.
Unfortunately for Meopta , the FFP scope field in the sub 1000$ range is probably the most rapidly evolving of all, and while Optika 6 was the hot thing when unveiled these days i wouldn't even take it into consideration, would rather take Element optics Titan or Vector Continental
It doesn't help that Meopta couldn't deliver (had an Optika 6 on order for 4 months before canceling) and poor reticle choices
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I have the Optika6 3-18x50 and Element Titan 3-18x50. I plan to compare them.
With Optika6, I do not have any real confirmation where it is made, but usually, if there is no "Made In" label on the product, that means it is made primarily in China. I'd be very surprised if there is anything other than QC done in Czech. That having been said, in this price range, it is hard to avoid that. There are a couple of options from the Phillipines (PST Gen2, PA GLx, Sightron S-Tac), but the rest are from China.
I do like Optika6 scopes and I have both the 3-18x50 and 5-30x56. I have not seen anything in the sub-$1k price range to make them obsolete, but there is definitely a lot more competition now. Optika6 5-30x56, Ares ETR 4.5-30x56, Delta Javelin 4.5-30x56 all look, to me, like they come from the same OEM and all three are rather nice scopes.
With Element Titan, it is not clear whether it is the same OEM or not, but it definitely goes after the same market and looks to be built to a somewhat similar quality standard.
Arken EP5 is a little less expensive, but scopes like the EP5 and Strike Eagle 5-25x should sorta be in the same conversation. I did compare the Striker Eagle to the Optika6 a while back, so I know how they stack up.
ILya
With Optika6, I do not have any real confirmation where it is made, but usually, if there is no "Made In" label on the product, that means it is made primarily in China. I'd be very surprised if there is anything other than QC done in Czech. That having been said, in this price range, it is hard to avoid that. There are a couple of options from the Phillipines (PST Gen2, PA GLx, Sightron S-Tac), but the rest are from China.
I do like Optika6 scopes and I have both the 3-18x50 and 5-30x56. I have not seen anything in the sub-$1k price range to make them obsolete, but there is definitely a lot more competition now. Optika6 5-30x56, Ares ETR 4.5-30x56, Delta Javelin 4.5-30x56 all look, to me, like they come from the same OEM and all three are rather nice scopes.
With Element Titan, it is not clear whether it is the same OEM or not, but it definitely goes after the same market and looks to be built to a somewhat similar quality standard.
Arken EP5 is a little less expensive, but scopes like the EP5 and Strike Eagle 5-25x should sorta be in the same conversation. I did compare the Striker Eagle to the Optika6 a while back, so I know how they stack up.
ILya
I have the 3-18x50 with the MRAD1 RD that I use on my AR10 and love the reticle honestly. Zero complaints although after ordering an Athlon Cronus 4.5-29x56, the Cronus is actually a bit smaller in overall size. But the glass is just as good as the Cronus which is made in Japan by LOW. Granted, we're looking at a different magnification range but I was sort of stunned when I went from the Cronus to the Meopta at about the same magnification settings, especially given the price disparity.
I have compared my Meopta Optika6 5-30x56 1FFP agaiant a Kahles 1050i that owned and sold, the same magnification levels and it stacks up very, very well when considering the Meopta is 40% of the price of the 1050i.
My Optika6 3-18x50 with MRAD1 reticle arrives today.
The reticle diagram (see attachment) does not answer four questions I have, or, if it does, I cannot find the answers due to the diagram's complicated nature.
To anyone who owns one, and also @koshkin, I have four questions (see other attachment).
1. Space between the end of horizontal MRAD stadia and the beginning of horse shoe -- "A" -- is? (I think .2 MRAD)
2. Space between the beginning of the inside of the horse shoe and the beginning of the crosshair dash -- "B" -- is? (I think .6 MRAD)
3. Width of the crosshair dash -- "C" -- is? (I think .2 MRAD)
4. Space between the end of the crosshair dash and the center of the center dot -- "D" -- is? (I think .2 MRAD)
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thank you.
-Stan
The reticle diagram (see attachment) does not answer four questions I have, or, if it does, I cannot find the answers due to the diagram's complicated nature.
To anyone who owns one, and also @koshkin, I have four questions (see other attachment).
1. Space between the end of horizontal MRAD stadia and the beginning of horse shoe -- "A" -- is? (I think .2 MRAD)
2. Space between the beginning of the inside of the horse shoe and the beginning of the crosshair dash -- "B" -- is? (I think .6 MRAD)
3. Width of the crosshair dash -- "C" -- is? (I think .2 MRAD)
4. Space between the end of the crosshair dash and the center of the center dot -- "D" -- is? (I think .2 MRAD)
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thank you.
-Stan
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Meopta glass quality has always been good even the "cheap" stuff. Durability is a different story, I've broken a couple pairs of their cheaper binos and one of their cheaper scopes. The more expensive binoculars and hunting scopes seem to be good to go though.
Stanley, I think your numbers are correct, or at least correct to my old eyes. Yes, there are a lot of measurements but I am sure that is one of the reasons that you chose that particular reticle. You can also find that scope and reticle combo in Strelok Pro in case you want to enter your ballistic data for drops. I find that app invaluable and Igor the owner is incredibly helpful.
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Thank you @bman940!
I got my numbers from printing the reticle as large as I could on a piece of paper, measuring my areas of interest with calipers, and then comparing the sizes to other parts of the reticle that were clearly described on the Meopta diagram. Not bad for kitchen table math even if I do say so myself.
I have Strelok Pro and will build my ballistic data this evening.
Thank you again.
-Stan
I have reached out to Meopta to see if we can get a blown-up pic such as the ones we made and add the measurements you asked for. Great job, by the way, I KNOW it was a pain but you got what you needed. I hope we'll hear more about how your rig performs.
Thank you again @bman940!
I emailed Meopta this morning in addition to posting but wanted to see what the brain trust here thought.
The recurring criticism of the design is the lack of wind holdover points at the zero range and / or if you prefer to dial for elevation.
I suspect if Meopta can develop a graphic that illustrates what can be done with the reticle as-is, as you have asked them to do, it would help many.
While some dots could have been put in outside of the crosshair dashes but before the horse shoe began, I think that would have cluttered things, and my older eyes like more white space these days.
More to follow as I know more.
-Stan
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