Rifle Scopes New Schmidt & Bender PM2 6-36x56

I haven’t paid, don’t know the cost nor do I care,,, well unless it’s 6-7k. 😂😂

Did you sign up w S&B? If so ck your email. EuroOptic will be the US distributor. It’s going to be first come, first serve. Shipping 2nd quarter. I’m waiting on the response from S&B for confirmation on the scope spec I submitted.
 
I haven’t paid, don’t know the cost nor do I care,,, well unless it’s 6-7k. 😂😂

Did you sign up w S&B? If so ck your email. EuroOptic will be the US distributor. It’s going to be first come, first serve. Shipping 2nd quarter. I’m waiting on the response from S&B for confirmation on the scope spec I submitted.

Lol euro said what sb 636 when I called......sooooooo yeaaaaa.


What did you spec?
 
I’m thinking S&B is taking the pre-order. I will keep you posted when I get a response about a deposit etc.

Huskydriver did you get the email?
 
I haven’t paid, don’t know the cost nor do I care,,, well unless it’s 6-7k. 😂😂

Did you sign up w S&B? If so ck your email. EuroOptic will be the US distributor. It’s going to be first come, first serve. Shipping 2nd quarter. I’m waiting on the response from S&B for confirmation on the scope spec I submitted.
I got the same email. I was going to send in my selection but I haven’t submitted it yet. I was going to wait on a price but I guess a deposit isn’t being made?
 
163-911-64F-G8-E8​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm ccw DT27 MTC LT / ST ZC CT
163-911-42F-G8-E8​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm ccw DT27 MTC LT / ST ZC CT
163-911-64F-G9-E9​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm cw DT27 MTC LT / ST ZC CT
163-911-42F-G9-E9​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm cw DT27 MTC LT / ST ZC CT
163-911-64F-F1-E8​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm ccw DT35 MTC LT / ST ZC CT
163-911-42F-F1-E8​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm ccw DT35 MTC LT / ST ZC CT
163-911-64F-F2-E9​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm cw DT35 MTC LT / ST ZC CT
163-911-42F-F2-E9​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm cw DT35 MTC LT / ST ZC CT
163-911-64F-M2-I5​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm ccw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT
163-911-42F-M2-I5​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm ccw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT
163-911-64F-M3-I6​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm cw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT
163-911-42F-M3-I6​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm cw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT
163-911-64F-I5-H5​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1/2 cm ccw MT II MTC LT / DT II+ ZC LT
163-911-42F-I5-H5​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1/2 cm ccw MT II MTC LT / DT II+ ZC LT
163-911-64F-I6-H6​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1/2 cm cw MT II MTC LT / DT II+ ZC LT
163-911-42F-I6-H6​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1/2 cm cw MT II MTC LT / DT II+ ZC LT


163-945-64F-G8-E8​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm ccw DT27 MTC LT / ST ZC CT RAL 8000
163-945-42F-G8-E8​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm ccw DT27 MTC LT / ST ZC CT RAL 8000
163-945-64F-G9-E9​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm cw DT27 MTC LT / ST ZC CT RAL 8000
163-945-42F-G9-E9​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm cw DT27 MTC LT / ST ZC CT RAL 8000
163-945-64F-F1-E8​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm ccw DT35 MTC LT / ST ZC CT RAL 8000
163-945-42F-F1-E8​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm ccw DT35 MTC LT / ST ZC CT RAL 8000
163-945-64F-F2-E9​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm cw DT35 MTC LT / ST ZC CT RAL 8000
163-945-42F-F2-E9​
6-36x56 PM II US LPI GR²ID 1cm cw DT35 MTC LT / ST ZC CT RAL 8000
 
That is suspiciously affordable.
Yea but you aren’t buying it in Europe without the additional 22% VAT (on top of that $3,800) unless you qualify for VAT exemption. Otherwise it’s $4,600-$4,900.

Is that 3800 dollars or euros?
US Dolla Dolla Billz
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Link is in one of the threads…

I think yesterday was just a teaser to keep me on the hook… nothing but European crickets in the old email today!
 
I would recommend anyone interested contact S&B Germany directly, they answered all my questions about availability and pricing. My only general question would be are DT II+ turrets worth the cost?

VAT, GST, Sales tax it's all the same thing.

You are just lucky that the US government isn't competent enough to collect it from online orders.

The states are though, thanks Supremes.
 
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I received a email back from Thomas and S&B. EuroOptic will be in contact w me shortly to complete my order.
 
No clue, seems like it’s top secret. When I get a price and finalize my order I will keep the thread updated.
 
5-20x50 PM II Ultra Short LPI MSR2 1cm ccw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT 173-911-862-M2-I5
$5.920,00

Absurd.

Stands by to see US pricing… because without VAT, pricing in Europe is around 3800 for the black DTII+.
6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm cw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT 163-911-64F-M3-I6 = $5.170,00 before tax
That's some pretty stiff inflation.
 
5-20x50 PM II Ultra Short LPI MSR2 1cm ccw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT 173-911-862-M2-I5
$5.920,00

Absurd.


6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm cw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT 163-911-64F-M3-I6 = $5.170,00 before tax
That's some pretty stiff inflation.

Yeeeep aint worth 6k I'll stick with zco for that sheeeet......

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5-20x50 PM II Ultra Short LPI MSR2 1cm ccw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT 173-911-862-M2-I5
$5.920,00

Absurd.


6-36x56 PM II US LPI P5FL 1cm cw DT II+ MTC LT / ST II ZC CT 163-911-64F-M3-I6 = $5.170,00 before tax
That's some pretty stiff inflation.
The 5-20US has been out for almost a decade now and they continue to raise the price, Schmidt must have really good long term strategies, most manufacturers are coming out with new models every 5 years or so, Schmidt just adds a new reticle or turret and raises prices on their original models.

What I don’t get is the redesign of the PM II 5-25 without tunneling, why not PM III or Gen II or something, that’s strange.

So why is this brand new design from Schmidt quite a bit less than models they’ve had for a while, makes me nervous that they cut some corners to meet a specific price point, and if they didn’t then how are they justifying the other older models going for so much more??? Inquiring minds want to know…
 
The 5-20US has been out for almost a decade now and they continue to raise the price, Schmidt must have really good long term strategies, most manufacturers are coming out with new models every 5 years or so, Schmidt just adds a new reticle or turret and raises prices on their original models.

What I don’t get is the redesign of the PM II 5-25 without tunneling, why not PM III or Gen II or something, that’s strange.

So why is this brand new design from Schmidt quite a bit less than models they’ve had for a while, makes me nervous that they cut some corners to meet a specific price point, and if they didn’t then how are they justifying the other older models going for so much more??? Inquiring minds want to know…

I'm wondering / hoping lol those are inflated MSRP numbers and what euro actually lists them for will be less. If not...I'm about to pick up up my last 520 with dtii+ turrets at the current price then wash my hands of SB and beg zco to add the msr2 to the line up jussssst for me lol @gebhardt02
 
The 5-20US has been out for almost a decade now and they continue to raise the price, Schmidt must have really good long term strategies, most manufacturers are coming out with new models every 5 years or so, Schmidt just adds a new reticle or turret and raises prices on their original models.
Yeah it's a weird price structure for sure.

What I don’t get is the redesign of the PM II 5-25 without tunneling, why not PM III or Gen II or something, that’s strange.
I can't even tell from their price sheet what 5-25 we are looking at, old new or both?

So why is this brand new design from Schmidt quite a bit less than models they’ve had for a while, makes me nervous that they cut some corners to meet a specific price point, and if they didn’t then how are they justifying the other older models going for so much more??? Inquiring minds want to know…
Yeah I seen this and am not sure what to make of it.