New Zealand’s Lesbian Navy Captain Loses $100M Naval Ship in Peacetime Disaster – Ship Runs Aground, Catches Fire, and Sinks, Unleashing Oil Spill.

[AZLong]

US Navy non-combat accidents. Zero lesbians. THere are many more

2017, 21 August: 10 killed, destroyer John S. McCain’s collision with merchant tanker, near Singapore

2017, 17 June: 7 killed, destroyer Fitzgerald’s collision with merchant ACX Crystal, off Japan

2002, 8 May: 7 killed, collision of two T-39 trainers, Pensacola, Florida

1999, 9 December: 7 killed, amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard CH-46 helicopter crash, off Point Loma, California

1991, 21 March: 27 killed, mid-air collision of two P-3 Orions, off San Diego

1990, 21 December: 21 killed, carrier Saratoga, ferry capsized, Haifa, Israel

1990, 31 October: 10 killed, amphibious assault ship Iwo Jima, steam valve rupture, Arabian Sea

1989, 19 April: 47 killed, battleship Iowa, turret explosion, off Puerto Rico

1983, 17 June: 14 killed, P-3 crash, Kauai, Hawaii

1983, 1 May: 15 killed, C-131 crash, St. Johns River, Jacksonville, Florida

1982, 3 April: 11 killed, carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower, C-1A COD crash, Crete

1981, 26 May: 14 killed, carrier Nimitz, EA-6B crash on flight deck, off Florida

1981, 26 February: 16 killed, Navy C-130 crash, South China Sea

1980, 19 April: 7 killed, P-3 crash, Samoa

1977, 17 January: 49 killed, Trenton and Guam, LCM-6 collides with merchant ship, Barcelona, Spain

1975, 22 November: 8 killed, 47 injured, carrier John F. Kennedy’s collision with cruiser Belknap, off Sicily, Italy

1973, 11 December: 6 killed, 38 injured, carrier Kitty Hawk, machinery room fire, South China Sea

1973, 5 February: 7 killed, 5 injured, destroyer Basilone, boiler explosion, off Virginia Capes

1972, 1 October: 20 killed, 38 injured, heavy cruiser Newport News, turret explosion, Vietnam

1969, 2 June: 74 killed, destroyer Frank E. Evans (sunk—stern half remained afloat) collision with carrier HMAS Melbourne, South China Sea

1969, 15 January: 28 killed, 343 injured, carrier Enterprise, flight deck fire, off Oahu, Hawaii

1968, 22 May: 99 killed (all hands), nuclear attack submarine Scorpion sunk, near Azores

1967, 29 July: 134 killed, 161 injured, carrier Forrestal, flight deck fire, South China Sea

1944, 17 July: 320 killed, ammunition explosion, U.S. Naval Magazine, Port Chicago, California

1944, 4 July: 42 killed, submarine S-28, sunk due to unknown cause, off Oahu, Hawaii

1944, 21 May: 163 killed, 396 injured, six LSTs destroyed in ammunition explosion, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii

1944, 3 January: 138 killed, 60 injured, destroyer Turner, ammunition explosion, New York harbor

1943, 20 November: 43 killed, 19 injured, battleship Mississippi, turret explosion, Gilbert Islands

1943, 12 June: 42 killed, submarine R-12 sunk by accident, off Key West, Florida

1942, 18 February: 204 killed, destroyer Truxton and cargo ship Pollux run aground in storm, Newfoundland

1942, 24 January: 46 killed, submarine S-26 accidentally rammed, Gulf of Panama

1941, 19 June: 33 killed, submarine O-9 sunk during deep submergence test, off Portsmouth, New Hampshire

1941, 2 January: 11 killed, PBY Catalina crash, San Diego

1939, 12 May: 26 killed, submarine Squalus sank during test dive, off Portsmouth, New Hampshire

1938, 2 February: 11 killed, two PBY Catalinas collided, off California coast

1938, 5 January: 7 killed, PBY Catalina crash, off Point Loma, California

1933, 4 April: 73 killed, 3 injured, airship Akron crash, off Barnegat, New Jersey

1928, 17 December: 39 killed, submarine S-4 rammed and sunk, off Cape Cod, Massachusetts

1926, 10 July: 19 killed, 39 injured, ammunition explosion by lightning, Naval Ammunition Depot, Jersey City, New Jersey

1925, 25 September: 33 killed, submarine S-51 sank after collision, Block Island, Rhode Island

1925, 3 September: 14 killed, 2 injured, airship Shenandoah crash, Ohio

1924, 20 October: 14 killed, light cruiser Trenton, turret explosion, Virginia Capes

1924, 12 June: 48 killed, battleship Mississippi, turret explosion, off San Pedro, California

 

[AZLong]

Not sure how this one was missed...

Ehime Maru and USS Greeneville collision - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[NoDopes]

I'm surprised you left out Dec 7th, 1941.

 

[diverdon]

That she is a lesbian doesn't necessarily mean she cannot do the job its whether she was given the job because she is a lesbian over her qualifications . Lets see what the accident review comes out with .....pretty good job of abandoning ship with no loss of life at night /rough seas imho they even had civilians on-board

I'm sure that'll come out right after the FBI arrests the people behind the attempts to assassinate President Trump.

 

[sloporsche]

I'm sure that'll come out right after the FBI arrests the people behind the attempts to assassinate President Trump.

I thought they already arrested both shooters .

 

[Jscb1b]

And nothing was nailed

That ship was held together by glue. Nothing nailed or screwed.

 

[AZLong]

I'm surprised you left out Dec 7th, 1941.

I am not surprised you didn't comprehend my post.

 

[AZLong]

Not sure how this one was missed...

Ehime Maru and USS Greeneville collision - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

These are only incidents where 7 or more military personnel were killed...

 

[Rthur]

US Navy non-combat accidents. Zero lesbians. THere are many more

2017, 21 August: 10 killed, destroyer John S. McCain’s collision with merchant tanker, near Singapore

2017, 17 June: 7 killed, destroyer Fitzgerald’s collision with merchant ACX Crystal, off Japan

2002, 8 May: 7 killed, collision of two T-39 trainers, Pensacola, Florida

1999, 9 December: 7 killed, amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard CH-46 helicopter crash, off Point Loma, California

1991, 21 March: 27 killed, mid-air collision of two P-3 Orions, off San Diego

1990, 21 December: 21 killed, carrier Saratoga, ferry capsized, Haifa, Israel

1990, 31 October: 10 killed, amphibious assault ship Iwo Jima, steam valve rupture, Arabian Sea

1989, 19 April: 47 killed, battleship Iowa, turret explosion, off Puerto Rico

1983, 17 June: 14 killed, P-3 crash, Kauai, Hawaii

1983, 1 May: 15 killed, C-131 crash, St. Johns River, Jacksonville, Florida

1982, 3 April: 11 killed, carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower, C-1A COD crash, Crete

1981, 26 May: 14 killed, carrier Nimitz, EA-6B crash on flight deck, off Florida

1981, 26 February: 16 killed, Navy C-130 crash, South China Sea

1980, 19 April: 7 killed, P-3 crash, Samoa

1977, 17 January: 49 killed, Trenton and Guam, LCM-6 collides with merchant ship, Barcelona, Spain

1975, 22 November: 8 killed, 47 injured, carrier John F. Kennedy’s collision with cruiser Belknap, off Sicily, Italy

1973, 11 December: 6 killed, 38 injured, carrier Kitty Hawk, machinery room fire, South China Sea

1973, 5 February: 7 killed, 5 injured, destroyer Basilone, boiler explosion, off Virginia Capes

1972, 1 October: 20 killed, 38 injured, heavy cruiser Newport News, turret explosion, Vietnam

1969, 2 June: 74 killed, destroyer Frank E. Evans (sunk—stern half remained afloat) collision with carrier HMAS Melbourne, South China Sea

1969, 15 January: 28 killed, 343 injured, carrier Enterprise, flight deck fire, off Oahu, Hawaii

1968, 22 May: 99 killed (all hands), nuclear attack submarine Scorpion sunk, near Azores

1967, 29 July: 134 killed, 161 injured, carrier Forrestal, flight deck fire, South China Sea

1944, 17 July: 320 killed, ammunition explosion, U.S. Naval Magazine, Port Chicago, California

1944, 4 July: 42 killed, submarine S-28, sunk due to unknown cause, off Oahu, Hawaii

1944, 21 May: 163 killed, 396 injured, six LSTs destroyed in ammunition explosion, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii

1944, 3 January: 138 killed, 60 injured, destroyer Turner, ammunition explosion, New York harbor

1943, 20 November: 43 killed, 19 injured, battleship Mississippi, turret explosion, Gilbert Islands

1943, 12 June: 42 killed, submarine R-12 sunk by accident, off Key West, Florida

1942, 18 February: 204 killed, destroyer Truxton and cargo ship Pollux run aground in storm, Newfoundland

1942, 24 January: 46 killed, submarine S-26 accidentally rammed, Gulf of Panama

1941, 19 June: 33 killed, submarine O-9 sunk during deep submergence test, off Portsmouth, New Hampshire

1941, 2 January: 11 killed, PBY Catalina crash, San Diego

1939, 12 May: 26 killed, submarine Squalus sank during test dive, off Portsmouth, New Hampshire

1938, 2 February: 11 killed, two PBY Catalinas collided, off California coast

1938, 5 January: 7 killed, PBY Catalina crash, off Point Loma, California

1933, 4 April: 73 killed, 3 injured, airship Akron crash, off Barnegat, New Jersey

1928, 17 December: 39 killed, submarine S-4 rammed and sunk, off Cape Cod, Massachusetts

1926, 10 July: 19 killed, 39 injured, ammunition explosion by lightning, Naval Ammunition Depot, Jersey City, New Jersey

1925, 25 September: 33 killed, submarine S-51 sank after collision, Block Island, Rhode Island

1925, 3 September: 14 killed, 2 injured, airship Shenandoah crash, Ohio

1924, 20 October: 14 killed, light cruiser Trenton, turret explosion, Virginia Capes

1924, 12 June: 48 killed, battleship Mississippi, turret explosion, off San Pedro, California

Remove those during war.

R

 

[NoDopes]

Remove those during war.

R

I'd remove most of not all aircraft incidents personally.

 

[BurtG]

This is the result of DEI and affirmitive action crammed down our throats. The conclusion will always be that the job was gotten by means other than overall merit and that will be amplified when mistakes are made. Right or wrong. Truth remains that race minories and social minorites get jobs over equally and often more qualified candidates for nothing but minority status.

 

[Franko]

Well as she was a DEI hire, I expect the truth of what happened will never see daylight and a suitable scapegoat will be found.

 

[AZLong]

Remove those during war.

R

Why? Don't read them. Accidents happen during war. These are documented accidents. There were no hostilities anywhere near Florida, New York, New Hampshire, etc. If you want to assert that some were due to hostilities, be my guest. You will be challenging some pretty knowledgable fleet officers...

 

[JoshPutman]

I'll bet I know what happened. Her girlfriend/wife/partner (whatever the hell they want to call each other) was probably on the bridge telling her how to drive.

Friend: You're going to hit that reef, dammit!

Captain Split tail: No I'm not!

Friend: Yes you are! You never listen to me!

Captain: FINE! YOU FUCKING DRIVE THEN!!

 

[LuckyDuck]

Can you imagine being placed in a position as a Naval Captain largely due to being an open lesbian to fulfill some sort of arbitrary quota and use that position only to take your ship to run aground, catch it on fire, and then sink it? And all due to abject negligence during routine maneuvers to boot?

And it only gets worse, it makes national news AND all the "naysayers" who have for decades admonished the very practice that put this person into said position and forewarned the lack of qualifications would result in such negative results... not only did they at least triple down, but now (as a public lesbian) the very same naysayers now get to pat themselves on their shoulders and quite literally revel in the fact on "how many boxes" you were successful in checking for them.

Holy crap.

 

[Ronin22]

Well, the old adage sure rings true. "If it got tits, tires, or lesbian DEI appointment, it's gonna give you problems!"

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

US Navy non-combat accidents. Zero lesbians. THere are many more

2017, 21 August: 10 killed, destroyer John S. McCain’s collision with merchant tanker, near Singapore

2017, 17 June: 7 killed, destroyer Fitzgerald’s collision with merchant ACX Crystal, off Japan

2002, 8 May: 7 killed, collision of two T-39 trainers, Pensacola, Florida

1999, 9 December: 7 killed, amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard CH-46 helicopter crash, off Point Loma, California

1991, 21 March: 27 killed, mid-air collision of two P-3 Orions, off San Diego

1990, 21 December: 21 killed, carrier Saratoga, ferry capsized, Haifa, Israel

1990, 31 October: 10 killed, amphibious assault ship Iwo Jima, steam valve rupture, Arabian Sea

1989, 19 April: 47 killed, battleship Iowa, turret explosion, off Puerto Rico

1983, 17 June: 14 killed, P-3 crash, Kauai, Hawaii

1983, 1 May: 15 killed, C-131 crash, St. Johns River, Jacksonville, Florida

1982, 3 April: 11 killed, carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower, C-1A COD crash, Crete

1981, 26 May: 14 killed, carrier Nimitz, EA-6B crash on flight deck, off Florida

1981, 26 February: 16 killed, Navy C-130 crash, South China Sea

1980, 19 April: 7 killed, P-3 crash, Samoa

1977, 17 January: 49 killed, Trenton and Guam, LCM-6 collides with merchant ship, Barcelona, Spain

1975, 22 November: 8 killed, 47 injured, carrier John F. Kennedy’s collision with cruiser Belknap, off Sicily, Italy

1973, 11 December: 6 killed, 38 injured, carrier Kitty Hawk, machinery room fire, South China Sea

1973, 5 February: 7 killed, 5 injured, destroyer Basilone, boiler explosion, off Virginia Capes

1972, 1 October: 20 killed, 38 injured, heavy cruiser Newport News, turret explosion, Vietnam

1969, 2 June: 74 killed, destroyer Frank E. Evans (sunk—stern half remained afloat) collision with carrier HMAS Melbourne, South China Sea

1969, 15 January: 28 killed, 343 injured, carrier Enterprise, flight deck fire, off Oahu, Hawaii

1968, 22 May: 99 killed (all hands), nuclear attack submarine Scorpion sunk, near Azores

1967, 29 July: 134 killed, 161 injured, carrier Forrestal, flight deck fire, South China Sea

1944, 17 July: 320 killed, ammunition explosion, U.S. Naval Magazine, Port Chicago, California

1944, 4 July: 42 killed, submarine S-28, sunk due to unknown cause, off Oahu, Hawaii

1944, 21 May: 163 killed, 396 injured, six LSTs destroyed in ammunition explosion, Pearl Harbor, Hawaii

1944, 3 January: 138 killed, 60 injured, destroyer Turner, ammunition explosion, New York harbor

1943, 20 November: 43 killed, 19 injured, battleship Mississippi, turret explosion, Gilbert Islands

1943, 12 June: 42 killed, submarine R-12 sunk by accident, off Key West, Florida

1942, 18 February: 204 killed, destroyer Truxton and cargo ship Pollux run aground in storm, Newfoundland

1942, 24 January: 46 killed, submarine S-26 accidentally rammed, Gulf of Panama

1941, 19 June: 33 killed, submarine O-9 sunk during deep submergence test, off Portsmouth, New Hampshire

1941, 2 January: 11 killed, PBY Catalina crash, San Diego

1939, 12 May: 26 killed, submarine Squalus sank during test dive, off Portsmouth, New Hampshire

1938, 2 February: 11 killed, two PBY Catalinas collided, off California coast

1938, 5 January: 7 killed, PBY Catalina crash, off Point Loma, California

1933, 4 April: 73 killed, 3 injured, airship Akron crash, off Barnegat, New Jersey

1928, 17 December: 39 killed, submarine S-4 rammed and sunk, off Cape Cod, Massachusetts

1926, 10 July: 19 killed, 39 injured, ammunition explosion by lightning, Naval Ammunition Depot, Jersey City, New Jersey

1925, 25 September: 33 killed, submarine S-51 sank after collision, Block Island, Rhode Island

1925, 3 September: 14 killed, 2 injured, airship Shenandoah crash, Ohio

1924, 20 October: 14 killed, light cruiser Trenton, turret explosion, Virginia Capes

1924, 12 June: 48 killed, battleship Mississippi, turret explosion, off San Pedro, California

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

I thought they already arrested both shooters .

How many drugs have you taken?

 

[Atomic_Lobster]

Maybe she had loose lips

 

[Jscb1b]

They was flapping in the wind.

 

[Downtown]

How many drugs have you taken?

Careful. Next he'll start bragging about living in your head rent free. That's how most conversations with this troll end.

 

[myronman3]

That she is a lesbian doesn't necessarily mean she cannot do the job its whether she was given the job because she is a lesbian over her qualifications . Lets see what the accident review comes out with .....pretty good job of abandoning ship with no loss of life at night /rough seas imho they even had civilians on-board

yep...i will wait for the navy report before i go with the exploding dildo torpedo theory expressed by a few

Ah yes.....the Almighty report. the report that is going to say "we have investigated ourselves, and found we have done everything correctly."

might as well have Colonel Sanders investigate who killed the chickens. some of these fucking twits......

 

[thejeep]

Maybe she was confused when the first mate suggested to take it down to 1/2 impulse power. Hitachi

 

[AZLong]

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[MK20]

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

US Navy non-combat accidents. Zero lesbians. THere are many more

2017, 21 August: 10 killed, destroyer John S. McCain’s collision with merchant tanker, near Singapore

I don't have time to look at all of those, so I just looked up the NTSB report on the first one. 10 killed, 48 injured, and $100M in damage. The Officer Of The Deck was the bridge watchstander in charge of navigation in charge of the safe operation and navigation of the ship. The OOD was female. The report left out the most important detail about whether she was also a lesbian.

Please tell me where you got your information that the OOD was a heterosexual woman rather than a lesbian?

 

[AZLong]

I don't have time to look at all of those, so I just looked up the NTSB report on the first one. 10 killed, 48 injured, and $100M in damage. The Officer Of The Deck was the bridge watchstander in charge of navigation in charge of the safe operation and navigation of the ship. The OOD was female. The report left out the most important detail about whether she was also a lesbian.

Please tell me where you got your information that the OOD was a heterosexual woman rather than a lesbian?

Both the CO and XO were on the bridge, and in charge of the operation at the time of the accident. The CO had been on the bridge for 4 hour prior to the accident.

You have proof the OOD was a lesbian? And if so, how her being a lesbian caused the crash?

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

You have proof the OOD was a lesbian?

Why are you asking such a question?

Does it have anything to do with what I wrote?

No?

Ok, just wondering.

 

[Downtown]

Both the CO and XO were on the bridge, and in charge of the operation at the time of the accident. The CO had been on the bridge for 4 hour prior to the accident.

You have proof the OOD was a lesbian? And if so, how her being a lesbian caused the crash?

Being a lesbian wasn't the cause of the crash. Inexperience was. Was an inexperienced person hired for diversity? Sexual preference proof? Her own words,

"Captain Gray had no ship command experience on her resume and had previously admitted that she had ulterior motives to seeking the command of the naval ship. In a 2022 interview with New Zealand’s Navy Today magazine, Gray said she and her wife schemed to move to New Zealand after falling in love with the country on a campervan holiday.

“How do we get to live here, we asked ourselves,” she said, then added, “The most obvious thing was to apply to join the Royal New Zealand Navy.”

 

[AZLong]

Why are you asking such a question?

Does it have anything to do with what I wrote?

No?

Ok, just wondering.

You asked for proof she was not.

 

[AZLong]

Being a lesbian wasn't the cause of the crash. Inexperience was. Was an inexperienced person hired for diversity? Sexual preference proof? Her own words,

"Captain Gray had no ship command experience on her resume and had previously admitted that she had ulterior motives to seeking the command of the naval ship. In a 2022 interview with New Zealand’s Navy Today magazine, Gray said she and her wife schemed to move to New Zealand after falling in love with the country on a campervan holiday.

“How do we get to live here, we asked ourselves,” she said, then added, “The most obvious thing was to apply to join the Royal New Zealand Navy.”

Ex-Royal Navy commander praised for saving lives after New Zealand naval ship sinks

Commander Yvonne Gray gave the order for all hands to abandon ship when it ran aground and caught fire off the coast of Samoa.

www.forcesnews.com

 

[Downtown]

Ex-Royal Navy commander praised for saving lives after New Zealand naval ship sinks

Commander Yvonne Gray gave the order for all hands to abandon ship when it ran aground and caught fire off the coast of Samoa.

www.forcesnews.com

Really not sure what you're defending here. The article you posted has the same quote as mine. She was a lesbian. She had no command experience before this ship in 2022. We agree, right?

 

[Im2bent]

Bwaahhaaahhhaahh she ordered abandon ship after she ran it aground . Holy shit she's a hero. Give her a shit ton of medals and promote the shit out of her.

 

[AZLong]

Really not sure what you're defending here. The article you posted has the same quote as mine. She was a lesbian. She had no command experience before this ship in 2022. We agree, right?

It lists her many years of naval experience, and how she came to command the ship. Where is a link to your article with the "facts" you posted?

 

[Downtown]

Here

$100 Million Naval Ship Under Command Of Lesbian Captain Runs Aground, Catches Fire, And Sinks - Gulf Insider

Officials are investigating the sinking of a $100M NZ naval ship commanded by Captain Yvonne Gray, who lacked previous command experience.

www.gulf-insider.com

The articles say the same thing!

"Officials are investigating the circumstances that led to the sinking of a $100 million naval ship that was under the command of a lesbian captain with no previous ship command experience"

 

[sloporsche]

How many drugs have you taken?

lmao.....nancy even before breakfast .....rent free

 

[sloporsche]

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i bet you have many pictures of men nancy lol

 

[BurtG]

The fact that people are even arguing a lesbian was promoted based on woke points versus merit


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[Im2bent]

lmao.....nancy even before breakfast .....rent free

Enough with rent free crap you've run it into the ground. Anyone and everyone that replies to you, now has you living in their head rent free. By the way you're in a gimp outfit stuffed in a box.

edit for effin typo

 

[diggler1833]

All I've been able to figure out so far is who the resident lesbian of the 'Hide is...

 

[BurtG]

i bet you have many pictures of men nancy lol

#projection

Are you the troll
Account of that florida fed fag that would post naked pictures of himself here ?

 

[AZLong]

Here

$100 Million Naval Ship Under Command Of Lesbian Captain Runs Aground, Catches Fire, And Sinks - Gulf Insider

Officials are investigating the sinking of a $100M NZ naval ship commanded by Captain Yvonne Gray, who lacked previous command experience.

www.gulf-insider.com

The articles say the same thing!

"Officials are investigating the circumstances that led to the sinking of a $100 million naval ship that was under the command of a lesbian captain with no previous ship command experience"

"Critics on social media immediately noted that Captain Gray had no ship command experience on her resume and had previously admitted that she had ulterior motives to seeking the command of the naval ship. In a 2022 interview with New Zealand’s Navy Today magazine, Gray said she and her wife schemed to move to New Zealand after falling in love with the country on a campervan holiday."



She had years of naval experience. Everyone has a first command. These are all comments from social media, no facts. There was no "scheming" involved, and there is nothing close to that mentioned in the cited article. Lots of info on her experience.

As typical, a bunch of bullshit.

https://issuu.com/nzdefenceforce/docs/navytoday_issue272

 

[Mike Casselton]

#projection

Are you the troll
Account of that florida fed fag that would post naked pictures of himself here ?

Is that our former resident, dumpster diving, electro/comm guy?

 

[AZLong]

The fact that people are even arguing a lesbian was promoted based on woke points versus merit


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[232593]

The only thing she should have been doing on that ship is the dishes.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

You asked for proof she was not.

Only because you asserted she was not. You confidently declared no lesbians involved. I did not ask for proof that "she was not." I asked you for your source supporting your dogmatic declaration that she, and everybody else, was not.

I said we don't know because the report does not say. Why would I need to submit proof of that? You are the only one pretending to know.

 

[RPN]

Photo from Commander Grey's trip around New Zealand.

 

[AZLong]

Only because you asserted she was not. You confidently declared no lesbians involved. I did not ask for proof that "she was not." I asked you for your source supporting your dogmatic declaration that she, and everybody else, was not.

I said we don't know because the report does not say. Why would I need to submit proof of that? You are the only one pretending to know.

One can easily assume that a person is not a member of an extremely small minority if they are not identified as being a member. I can reasonably assume that all members of this forum are not lesbians. Not that hard to understand.

And there were absolutely no lesbians in command, as there were no women commanding officers. I did not say involved. So you have no point.

 

[Downtown]

Only because you asserted she was not. You confidently declared no lesbians involved. I did not ask for proof that "she was not." I asked you for your source supporting your dogmatic declaration that she, and everybody else, was not.

I said we don't know because the report does not say. Why would I need to submit proof of that? You are the only one pretending to know.

Give it up. I have no idea what the hell he's even arguing about. We've both posted magazine articles that have the exact same quotes. She's a lesbian. We all agree. This is her first command. We all agree. She had two years of command experience. We all agree. Was she hired because of "diversity"? Who the hell knows? Did she screw up? Time will tell. In the USN, running aground is blamed on the captain and is usually career ending. Think we agree on that. What does he keep going on about? Whatever. Not worth internet arguing over longer.

 

[AZLong]

Give it up. I have no idea what the hell he's even arguing about. We've both posted magazine articles that have the exact same quotes. She's a lesbian. We all agree. This is her first command. We all agree. She had two years of command experience. We all agree. Was she hired because of "diversity"? Who the hell knows? Did she screw up? Time will tell. In the USN, running aground is blamed on the captain and is usually career ending. Think we agree on that. What does he keep going on about? Whatever. Not worth internet arguing over longer.

Indeed. Why bring it up?