Newbie Asks: Why do you say the Production (Rifle) Division is a Joke?

That's not true at all. The old skills stage with a 2 MOA target at 600 used to be a difficult target. Now a 2 MOA target is a meatball.
There were no skills stages as there was no PRS back then. We shot 6” movers at 500 yards. Hell we shot movers. Not many do that anymore. Also shot a lot of small paper targets but no paper either anymore.
 
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There were no skills stages as there was no PRS back then. We shot 6” movers at 500 yards. Hell we shot movers. Not many do that anymore. Also shot a lot of small paper targets but no paper either anymore.
Texas Precision Matches put a mover at their 500 y berm and I was super stoked, (‘17 or ‘18?). We shot it for maybe 2 matches and it went away. Well, it was still there, but not in the course of fire. It always irked me that it was RIGHT THERE but we weren’t shooting it. I assumed that peeps were shooting the mechanism and it was broken. Maybe there were complaints from the top. I drifted to other things not too long after- lockdown then HS shotgun for the oldest. Maybe they brought it back. Idk.

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Texas Precision Matches put a mover at their 500 y berm and I was super stoked, (‘17 or ‘18?). We shot it for maybe 2 matches and it went away. Well, it was still there, but not in the course of fire. It always irked me that it was RIGHT THERE but we weren’t shooting it. I assumed that peeps were shooting the mechanism and it was broken. Maybe there were complaints from the top. I drifted to other things not too long after- lockdown then HS shotgun for the oldest. Maybe they brought it back. Idk.

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Movers aren't common anymore because they're difficult and expensive to get right. K&M can run them because their movers are purpose built into the range. They have electricity run underground so no generator problems. Berms protect the tracks and wheels, and the movers themselves are built like tanks because they stay put year round.

MD's on rented ground don't get those luxuries and going range cold 9 times a day isn't a good option. If you can't get it running again in under 5 min, chances are the stage gets tossed anyway.
 
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Movers aren't common anymore because they're difficult and expensive to get right. K&M can run them because their movers are purpose built into the range. They have electricity run underground so no generator problems. Berms protect the tracks and wheels, and the movers themselves are built like tanks because they stay put year round.

MD's on rented ground don't get those luxuries and going range cold 9 times a day isn't a good option. If you can't get it running again in under 5 min, chances are the stage gets tossed anyway.
This is true.
 
I have not read the complete thread......

Having said that.....there is no reason the budget cap shouldn't be $1500 rifle and $1000k scope. There are plenty of great options within these budgets and it is low enough to keep the purpose built low cost items out of the class. Hell you might even get those companies to donate and sponsor.......go figure.

Ern
 
I have not read the complete thread......

Having said that.....there is no reason the budget cap shouldn't be $1500 rifle and $1000k scope. There are plenty of great options within these budgets and it is low enough to keep the purpose built low cost items out of the class. Hell you might even get those companies to donate and sponsor.......go figure.

Ern
The reason is that boutique rifle builders can't build a custom rifle and make any money with those caps. A production minimum of 500 rifles is a joke for a "real" manufacturer. You could call the division the "wink wink production division."