Not a snipers rifle, but it's vintage and beautiful. (Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1952)

[LooseGoose]

My 1952 Mannlicher-Schoenauer manufactured by Steyr-Daimler chambered in .270 Winchester, topped by a Leupold 4x Post/Crosshair in a matching Leupold Adjusto-mount. Without a doubt one of the finest rifles I will ever touch. The engineering and manufacturing ingenuity that went into this rifle is a thing to behold. It's 100% true what they say about letting the bolt drop with the trigger pulled (on an empty chamber of course) closing and locking itself. It isn't butter it's ice sliding on ice, otherworldly smooth.

Unfortunately I'm considering selling it to make ends meet, so I want to share it with you fine folks before it's no longer mine to brag about.

 

[Atomic_Lobster]

Don't sell it
You will be pissed at yourself for years if you do
Try to find another way to make ends meet

 

[LooseGoose]

Don't sell it
You will be pissed at yourself for years if you do
Try to find another way to make ends meet

I have no doubt I would be. It'll be a last resort, I'd have to decide between letting go of guns or a motorcycle.

 

[cas6969]

Love it. I keep saying one of those or similar models will be my next uneeded rifle purchase, but I keep doing other stupid things instead.

 

[Clob McStrunk]

Ditch the bike

 

[lash]

Beautiful rifle.

 

[Basher]

I LOVE a good bike, and have been riding since I was nine years old.

However, I’ve sold a lot of rifles and have regretted selling almost all of them. Especially rare or hard to find examples such as yours. Unless you have a blood bond with the bike, sell the bike. There are LOTS of awesome rides out there. But unless it’s a truly RARE model, most bikes depreciate with time. Rare pieces of gunsmithing artwork do not.

Edit: another thing is that Mannlicher-style rifles are highly sought after and very few models are in current production. I had NUMEROUS full-stock CZ rifles and sold them to help fund flight training thinking they’d be easily replaced. Not long after, CZ pulled the plug on them and now they sell for STOOPID money. Just something to think about.

 

[LooseGoose]

Sell it....to me.

You'll be first on the contact list if I end up doing so bb <3. I have no idea what a fair price on it would be at the moment. It'll be very hard to let either of my motorcycles go.

I LOVE a good bike, and have been riding since I was nine years old.

However, I’ve sold a lot of rifles and have regretted selling almost all of them. Especially rare or hard to find examples such as yours. Unless you have a blood bond with the bike, sell the bike. There are LOTS of awesome rides out there. But unless it’s a truly RARE model, most bikes depreciate with time. Rare pieces of gunsmithing artwork do not.

Edit: another thing is that Mannlicher-style rifles are highly sought after and very few models are in current production. I had NUMEROUS full-stock CZ rifles and sold them to help fund flight training thinking they’d be easily replaced. Not long after, CZ pulled the plug on them and now they sell for STOOPID money. Just something to think about.

It's a conundrum. I have my first long term bike in an FZ1 that I joyfully use to commute and a Vulcan 1600 I bought so my wife could share in my pleasure of riding, letting go of either will hurt. The FZ would likely be a tougher sell with nearly 90k miles, wife might be upset with me if the Vulcan goes. What a crappy situation to be in I hope my wife finds work before any of it is necessary.

 

[n2ishun]

I'd scrub her down real well, polish and oil it, stick it back in the safe, and sell either bike instead.
Not even a question to me, it's the obvious choice.
It does need some good deep cleaning though.....got some dust bunnies on that scope mount.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Well, if she is unemployed, there is a third thing you could get rid of….

But if you actually like her…. Then Probably not the best plan.

Beautiful rifle. I’d be eating cold Ramen before getting rid of it!

Sirhr

 

[LooseGoose]

I'd scrub her down real well, polish and oil it, stick it back in the safe, and sell either bike instead.
Not even a question to me, it's the obvious choice.
It does need some good deep cleaning though.....got some dust bunnies on that scope mount.

It does need it. I purchased it from a small shop in a swanky, old style town (Milford, Ohio on the east side of Cincinnati. Lots of money out that way). They got it from an estate sale and said I would not believe the collection. Who knows how long it was untouched.

 

[LooseGoose]

Well, if she is unemployed, there is a third thing you could get rid of….

But if you actually like her…. Then Probably not the best plan.

Beautiful rifle. I’d be eating cold Ramen before getting rid of it!

Sirhr

God help me I love that woman lol. Once she lands work things will look up, she makes almost three times as much as I do and she's been busting her ass to make it happen. Tech sales is super competitive.

She's a good shot too so I'd better not piss her off!

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Fair enough… but blue nails?

Those are usually associated with “Stabby.”



Sirhr

 

[Arc Light]

Do you still have two working kidneys?

 

[LooseGoose]

Fair enough… but blue nails?

Those are usually associated with “Stabby.”



Sirhr

No stabby pls, she runs faster than me!

 

[LooseGoose]

Do you still have two working kidneys?

Man y'all feel really strongly about this

 

[Arc Light]

Man y'all feel really strongly about this

I just agree with the others, sell it as a last resort if you have no choice. I've sold guns over the years, including several that are now collector's pieces, and I regret it to this day.

 

[Basher]

You'll be first on the contact list if I end up doing so bb <3. I have no idea what a fair price on it would be at the moment. It'll be very hard to let either of my motorcycles go.


It's a conundrum. I have my first long term bike in an FZ1 that I joyfully use to commute and a Vulcan 1600 I bought so my wife could share in my pleasure of riding, letting go of either will hurt. The FZ would likely be a tougher sell with nearly 90k miles, wife might be upset with me if the Vulcan goes. What a crappy situation to be in I hope my wife finds work before any of it is necessary.

Damn, bro. You have excellent taste in guns, bikes, and women! Tough situation to be in, I had a 2003 FZ1 Kenny Roberts Edition I sold last year that hurt pretty bad (I rebuilt it and put 35k on it), so I feel your pain. I also sold all those other rifles. But I’m still here, happily married. Take care of the fam first, everything else CAN be replaced (maybe not cheaply/easily, but still). If you use the bike regularly, the rifle may be the thing to let go, there ARE others out there. Same with bikes, but I will concede that I have more emotional bonds with my bikes than I do with most (though not all) of my rifles.

I’m gonna say something really weird for a dude-ridden gun forum, but… follow your heart here. It knows what you cherish most. Guns often get handed down to kids, whereas bikes do not. But as much as I love and use my rifles, I have more time and memories with my bikes. And again, I’ve sold both and I got over it. Tough, tough call. And good for your wife working as hard as she does. Either way, sacrificing to help support things is the right thing to do. You’ll make the right decision.

 

[Charger442]

A nice mannlicher schoenauer in 30-06 with double set triggers has always been on my list.

If Im you, sell that gun and don't look back. There's others out there like it, let someone else take care of it for a while.

 

[LooseGoose]

Damn, bro. You have excellent taste in guns, bikes, and women! Tough situation to be in, I had a 2003 FZ1 Kenny Roberts Edition I sold last year that hurt pretty bad (I rebuilt it and put 35k on it), so I feel your pain. I also sold all those other rifles. But I’m still here, happily married. Take care of the fam first, everything else CAN be replaced (maybe not cheaply/easily, but still). If you use the bike regularly, the rifle may be the thing to let go, there ARE others out there. Same with bikes, but I will concede that I have more emotional bonds with my bikes than I do with most (though not all) of my rifles.

I’m gonna say something really weird for a dude-ridden gun forum, but… follow your heart here. It knows what you cherish most. Guns often get handed down to kids, whereas bikes do not. But as much as I love and use my rifles, I have more time and memories with my bikes. And again, I’ve sold both and I got over it. Tough, tough call. And good for your wife working as hard as she does. Either way, sacrificing to help support things is the right thing to do. You’ll make the right decision.

Very well said sir. Thank you, I think the rifle will likely be what needs to go. It does me no good being in the safe to be used and admired a few days a year when I use the bikes every day weather permits. How to figure out a fair asking price though, this should be fun.

 

[LooseGoose]

Anyone have an idea what something like this is worth?

 

[Charger442]

Anyone have an idea what something like this is worth?

I've seen asking between $1800-2500. The market for almost everything is depressed right now, so no clue what will move it

 

[LooseGoose]

I've seen asking between $1800-2500. The market for almost everything is depressed right now, so no clue what will move it

Thanks. I'll have to figure out where people look for these kinds of listings.

 

[Charger442]

Thanks. I'll have to figure out where people look for these kinds of listings.

Try gunsinternational.com

 

[LooseGoose]

Try gunsinternational.com

Good call I see there are a few listed already, but none in this particular configuration so that's good. Thank you.

 

[Charger442]

Good call I see there are a few listed already, but none in this particular configuration so that's good. Thank you.

They charge a flat fee to list and I think it's $15. No selling fees or buyer fees like GunBroker. Good luck to you

 

[LooseGoose]

They charge a flat fee to list and I think it's $15. No selling fees or buyer fees like GunBroker. Good luck to you

That's not bad. I appreciate it sir.

 

[cas6969]

Let see what the bike looks like in 70 years.

 

[LooseGoose]

Let see what the bike looks like in 70 years.

 

[brianf]

A nice mannlicher schoenauer in 30-06 with double set triggers has always been on my list.

If Im you, sell that gun and don't look back. There's others out there like it, let someone else take care of it for a while.

100%
unless its been passed down and has sentimental value...out the door it goes

a rifle is just a pipe screwed to a pipe wrapped in wood or aluminum

its a tool, and there are 1000's out there just like it

pay the bills then hunt one down once your feet are back under you

 

[cas6969]

That's too bad. I almost feel sorry for you.

 

[LooseGoose]

After some thought I've decided to post this to the px. Have a blessed day everyone.

 

[Rothhammer1]

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My 1952 Mannlicher-Schoenauer manufactured by Steyr-Daimler chambered in .270 Winchester, topped by a Leupold 4x Post/Crosshair in a matching Leupold Adjusto-mount. Without a doubt one of the finest rifles I will ever touch. The engineering and manufacturing ingenuity that went into this rifle is a thing to behold. It's 100% true what they say about letting the bolt drop with the trigger pulled (on an empty chamber of course) closing and locking itself. It isn't butter it's ice sliding on ice, otherworldly smooth.

Unfortunately I'm considering selling it to make ends meet, so I want to share it with you fine folks before it's no longer mine to brag about.

The glass smooth bolt closing is most definitely 'a thing'.

I just demonstrated this last week, using my Grand Dad's M1910 (9.5X57) Take Down Model, to a lifelong shooter and hunter who had never handled / seen 'up close' an MS before.

Needless to say, he was impressed.

 

[Rothhammer1]

I have no doubt I would be. It'll be a last resort, I'd have to decide between letting go of guns or a motorcycle.

Good bye, motorcycle!

 

[Rothhammer1]

Mannlicher-style rifles are highly sought after and very few models are in current production.

If, by "Mannlicher-Style", you mean full stocked; that is nothing compared to what makes a Mannlicher Schoenauer a Mannlicher Schoenauer.

Full stocked carbines are stutzen. Mannlicher Schoenauers were built in stutzen, half stocked, and (pre WW2) in take down versions.

Not all MS were full stocked, not all full stocked rifles / carbines are Mannlichers.

Mauser Stutzen, Stoeger 1939.

Mannlicher Schoenauers, Stoeger 1939.

 

[Rothhammer1]

Anyone have an idea what something like this is worth?

No less than $1,000 USD.

On a good day, $2500+ could be achieved.

Watch auction listings.

 

[Rothhammer1]

A nice mannlicher schoenauer in 30-06 with double set triggers has always been on my list.

Find an all original M1924 'Sequoia'.

 

[Rothhammer1]

Thanks. I'll have to figure out where people look for these kinds of listings.

NitroExpressForums.

 

[Basher]

If, by "Mannlicher-Style", you mean full stocked; that is nothing compared to what makes a Mannlicher Schoenauer a Mannlicher Schoenauer.

Full stocked carbines are stutzen. Mannlicher Schoenauers were built in stutzen, half stocked, and (pre WW2) in take down versions.

Not all MS were full stocked, not all full stocked rifles / carbines are Mannlichers.

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Mauser Stutzen, Stoeger 1939.

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Mannlicher Schoenauers, Stoeger 1939.

Mannlicher Schoenauers =/= Mannlicher stock. MS is a manufacturer/brand, and yes, they made stocks in various lengths. But a rifle with a Mannlicher-style stock is near-universally understood to mean a rifle with a stock that runs the full length of the barrel. If I ask your average joe what a stutzen rifle is, most would look at me like I have a hole in my head. If I ask them what a Mannlicher-style rifle is, I’d get examples like the CZ 550FS, Ruger RSI/International, etc. So while you’re correct, I am correct also based on common usage of the word. But thanks for joining today to “set me straight.”

 

[Rothhammer1]

Mannlicher Schoenauers =/= Mannlicher stock. MS is a manufacturer/brand, and yes, they made stocks in various lengths. But a rifle with a Mannlicher-style stock is near-universally understood to mean a rifle with a stock that runs the full length of the barrel. If I ask your average joe what a stutzen rifle is, most would look at me like I have a hole in my head. If I ask them what a Mannlicher-style rifle is, I’d get examples like the CZ 550FS, Ruger RSI/International, etc. So while you’re correct, I am correct also based on common usage of the word. But thanks for joining today to “set me straight.”

The same could be said of Buffalo and Bison.

A word being misapplied as "common usage" does not make it correct nor an accurate description.

Buffalo

Bison

By the way, Mannlicher Schoenauers were manufactured by Steyr, and an 'average Josef' would know what a stutzen is.

 

[lash]

The same could be said of Buffalo and Bison.

A word being misapplied as "common usage" does not make it correct nor an accurate description.

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Buffalo

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Bison

By the way, Mannlicher Schoenauers were manufactured by Steyr, and an 'average Josef' would know what a stutzen is.

Argue semantics all you want. Even though you’re right, common usage will always win out. And you’re wrong about the gun knowledge of the average Jose. If I walk down the firing line at most any local range and ask everyone what a stutzen is, I’ll be lucky to find one in twenty that even knows it’s a word, much less a rifle.

 

[Rothhammer1]

And you’re wrong about the gun knowledge of the average Jose. If I walk down the firing line at most any local range and ask everyone what a stutzen is, I’ll be lucky to find one in twenty that even knows it’s a word, much less a rifle.

Are you in Europe when you walk down the firing line ?

I posted, "...the average Josef", not "Jose".

The U.S. is not the entire world.

 

[cas6969]

Buffalo

Nickel

If we're being pedantic.

(In point of fact, there's a bird AND a buffalo)

 

[Rothhammer1]

Nickel



(In point of fact, there's a bird and a buffalo)

You didn't mention the grass.

Incidentally, the U.S. 'Nickel' (five cent coin) is 75% copper, 25% nickel. The first coin to be minted of the alloy was the Three Cent Nickel of 1865 through 1889, which was followed by the Five Cent Nickel of 1866 - present, though silver Half Dimes would still be produced through 1873.

Three Cent 'Nickel'

Three Cent Silver

Half Dime

 

[lash]

Oh look!

 

[lash]

Are you in Europe when you walk down the firing line ?

I posted, "...the average Josef", not "Jose".

The U.S. is not the entire world.

And the Germanic-Hungarian reference you made is?

If it’s the entire world you’re after, it’s an easy bet that less than 0.1% will have a clue what ‘stutzen’ means.

 

[Rothhammer1]

Oh look!

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[Rothhammer1]

And the Germanic-Hungarian reference you made is?

If it’s the entire world you’re after, it’s an easy bet that less than 0.1% will have a clue what ‘stutzen’ means.

Nor is the name 'Josef' popular the world over.

What is your alleged point?

 

[lash]

Nor is the name 'Josef' popular the world over.

What is your alleged point?

Since you’re apparently a bit thick in addition to just being generally argumentative because of some perceived inferiority to the rest of the world, your statement very specifically and unequivocally was that everybody knows what Stutzen means. This was your intro here to show how much more you know than the rest of us poorly informed idiots.

To say that you are being pedantic is actually an understatement. Perhaps I need to explain the meaning of pedantic for you also, since you lack basic comprehension. I pointed out that the ‘average person’ (your words) does not know what you believe and still hold that to be a true statement.

Now, had you said ‘the average vintage gun aficionado’ to make your point, you wouldn’t be here arguing pointlessly to try and hold an untenable position.

But do carry on. I love seeing someone dig a hole deeper and deeper.

 

[Basher]

Nor is the name 'Josef' popular the world over.

What is your alleged point?

Maybe that new guys who join and shit all over established members, no matter how right they are, often don’t last long here. Be right all you want but if your delivery sucks or is disrespectful (especially as a newb), you’ll be shown the door. We don’t suffer pedantic, self-righteous people here very well. Educated and experienced folks willing to share without arrogance? Please, make yourself at home. Stuck up ass? GTFO.